(0:00 - 0:48) The COVID pandemic cost millions of jobs and shut down tens of thousands of businesses, interrupted our children's education, forced everyone to wear masks which only made people more likely to get sick, and broke apart families and friends. Recently, one of our TruthRx doctors at the Iron Wire, Christof Plothe, an osteopath from Germany and a head researcher at the World Council for Health, presented data directly from the RKI, the German equivalent of the CDC, proving beyond a doubt that there was no pandemic, that in fact the infection rate of COVID-19 was shockingly low and well exceeded by the flu. His presentation also raised new questions. (0:49 - 1:33) In this explosive interview, Christoph reveals yet more data and a recent leak which exposed the fact that a number of the major players in the COVID narrative, including then-German Chancellor Angela Merkel, representatives of both the WHO and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and many others gathered in Europe prior to the announcement of the pandemic to plan exactly how they were going to deceive the entire world into buying their false narrative, and in so doing, get them to line up to be injected with a bioweapon. In our discussion, one fact in particular became undeniably clear. They are planning to do it again. (1:42 - 1:46) Christof, welcome back to the show. Thanks for inviting me, Will. Pleasure. (1:46 - 4:46) I invited you to this interview after your contribution to our TruthRx show on the Iron Wire where you utterly shattered the COVID narrative with data from the RKI, which is the German equivalent of the CDC, their own data showing that there basically was no pandemic. Now, folks, we're going to post a link to that presentation beneath this interview, but Christoph, you've also found some new data, so run us through briefly what you found. Okay, so just to present the entire presentation here, there is not enough time and everybody's invited to have a look at the previous presentation for your show, but there were some interesting other facts that we can add to the saga, and this is a very interesting one that was just leaked a few days ago, and that was a meeting six months before the outbreak, and you can see here that it was in the head of the conservative party in Germany, and you can see the intendants, that's Angela Merkel, the chancellor, there's the health minister, there's Christian Drosten, there's the WHO, there's the Gates Foundation, there's the Wellcome Trust, and all the pharmaceutical lobby, and in that meeting, the health minister repeated that the WHO has its mantra that vaccine skeptics are among the top 10 health threats of our time, and they talked about loads of things they couldn't have known at that time, and so it becomes very, very interesting to look even at not only the time when the entire thing started, but something that was happening beforehand, and you can see all the references, you can see already all the attempts to make sense of what happened, and just to include a slide here about the incidences of COVID and the disappearance of the flu that we witnessed all over the world, this is actually the slide of the World Health Organization, and you can see in 2020 to 2021, it just disappeared completely, and here we can see, please take time to watch this slide, because that's from Professor Senexson, who analyzed the data, and it's actually a slide that you can open up on the archive register, and you can see that influenza and RSV were far, far higher in their incidences that COVID ever was in the entire agenda, and you can see that when the upgrading came, there was influenza far, far above the COVID pandemic in 2020. (4:46 - 17:14) You can see all the statements about it, but I wanted to show you something new that was that the lab origin, that's something that's being discussed now all over the world for some strange reason, yeah, everybody seems to be considering it as the normal thing nowadays, but of course we know, Will, that everybody who mentioned this in the last five years has been called a conspiracy theorist, and we know now that since the 5th of February, the archive knew that it was a lab origin, so we can have a look at the slides in order to dive into this. There was, after this discovery, a panic paper published just before calling out the lockdowns in order to keep the people in panic. It's actually called the panic paper, you can download it on the official databases, and well, we know there has been no hospital overload, but look at this, this is a presentation of Tom Lausen, he's a data analyst in a presentation in front of the EU parliament just a few days ago, and do you remember, yeah, that was probably the vocabulary in Canada as well, flatten the curve, yeah, it was told and we were all shown that, was that the case, yeah? Yes, yes, two weeks to flatten the curve, they told us, yes. Yeah, yeah, so for some reason, all countries in the world use that vocabulary, and here is a nice accumulation of all the dramatic COVID graphs that we had, but like in any disease outbreak, the real interesting thing that us as normal human being interests us is basically how many people died, and if you look at this, this is just stunning, on the top right you can see the average death rate since 2011 to 2022, so it's always in a thin corridor, yeah, but you can see there is no, especially in 2020, there's absolutely no sign of any excess death in 2020, and Tom Lausen gave the presentation, and I'll show you the link if you want to, unfortunately it's only in German, but I hope it will be available in English soon, as it was in front of the European parliament, but now look at this underneath, that's Bergamo, remember Bergamo? Everybody used the images of Bergamo to explain the dramatic incidents, and we all remember those lorries loaded up with dead bodies, well look at the incidents since 2011, that's 190 deaths per week, and look at what happened after the 18th of March, where there's this strange peak, it's again 190 deaths per week, meaning that if there truly would have been a pandemic of any sort, you just don't have a high death rate for a few days or two weeks, you need something that's ongoing when the outbreak is especially as all medications were suppressed, and the saving vaccine in inverted commas wasn't even on the market, that's 2021, you can see it there, so there's absolutely no change in the death rate, and he actually went to the cemeteries of Bergamo and counted the death in the cemeteries, and he came to interesting conclusions, and for some strange reason there was this enormous spike in week 12, 2020, around the 16th of March, and look at the stats of Madrid, Paris, Stockholm, Bergamo, Brussels, he looked at all the European countries, and probably could do the same worldwide, in Germany there wasn't this peak, so very strange that we were amongst the first ones to call for a lockdown, but there's this strange peak in there, and then it just normalizes again, this is not typical for any pandemic or for any disease, you would expect a rise, you would expect a plateau, you would expect definitely a rise in 2020, so what happened in that week, and there are certain things you can think of, well remdesivir was one of the drugs that was supposed to cure, we know that it came from Fauci himself, was extremely expensive and actually killed probably more people than it ever ever saved, well there was midazolam in the UK that came out, so people were basically drugged and died, there was the ventilation that was used at that time, which we know which was counterproductive, because it actually basically killed more people as well, so was there anything else that could have caused it, of course officially they say that's the peak of COVID, but it doesn't make sense, I think you agree when looking at it, it doesn't make sense. Yes, and to add further information for our viewers, you referenced remdesivir, which shuts down the kidneys if you administer it for more than three days, and of course when that happens, fluid builds up in the body and it collects in the lungs and they drown in their own fluid, which looks like pneumonia, except that's not what it is, then you talked about midazolam, which is here in Canada at least one of the three drugs they give during MAiD, where they made the medical assistance and dying capital of the world, and that one is supposed to paralyze you, but the producer of midazolam says right in the documentation, you have to be extremely careful with dosage, especially with the elderly, or you may kill them, and we know from information we've gotten from Great Britain, that nurses there at NHS were instructed to give it as required, anytime somebody seems stressed, give them midazolam, except that it's a very short-acting drug, I discussed this with Mark Trozzi, this effect only lasts about an hour, and so they were dosing these people with midazolam over and over and over again and killing them, and there's estimated that at least 10,000 elderly people in Great Britain died as a result of the misuse of midazolam, and as you referenced also the ventilators, which, well that's another problem, we know that those killed a lot of people, so all of these things appear to be probably the explanation for that spike, and that's where they started taking the people who were in the hospitals and putting them on all those protocols that were recommended by Fauci, and killing them in large numbers. Yes, and the interesting thing Will, is the date of that peak, that's the 16th, we go on in this presentation about mask efficiency, etc., but the interesting thing is that if you look at the lockdowns, they were initiated on the 18th of March 2020, and on the 15th, which is a Sunday, you can look up the appropriate slide for that, on the 15th of March, whilst beforehand the RKI in Germany had labeled the pandemic situation as moderate, so not really on high alert, and there were two people, the head of the RKI and his deputy, that together decided on a Sunday that they would call out the highest emergency that you can call out for a pandemic, and initiated the lockdowns, which was illegal, because you actually needed the approval of the entire COVID management team of the RKI, so there's another interesting question that we need to clarify, and as I just said, Tom Lawson was in front of the European COVID strategy meeting a week ago, and the good news is, Will, I don't know if that has reached you already, the EU actually now is initiating with a few very, very active politicians throughout Europe, there are not many, but there are some, in order to get a few days of assessing the 2020 started COVID pandemic, so this is great news here in Europe, because all the other governments, they don't seem to be interested in looking at what happened, but how can you learn for the next one, as they all proclaimed, the next one is waiting in front of our door, if you don't really assess what you've done correctly, and what you've done that was wrong or counterproductive, and as we see on all these slides, again, this is all official data, nothing is put in there by conspiracy theorists, and I just want to include this slide as well, because that's a very, very important one, I gave a presentation about that half a year ago, because here you can see in a freedom of information request for the European Medicine Agency, what the vaccine was actually approved for, you can see in the entire document, you can download it and look at it and see what it was approved for, and you can see here, this is written in the inverted comma, you're indeed correct to point out that COVID-19 vaccines have not been authorized for preventing transmission from one person to another, the indications are for protecting the vaccinated individuals only, and this is interesting, so there was never an endpoint of study that looked at whether, yeah, it could prevent infection, so nevertheless, we were all told it stopped transmission, it wasn't even brought on the market to actually lessen symptoms, it was, it was, we were told it was protecting the vaccinated, but we didn't, we weren't sure how this was going to happen, although they probably was using antibodies and say that's a protection that we're getting, and it never, never actually was shown to reduce transmission, so there never was a case of protecting grandma and grandpa, there was never a situation where you could protect anybody else and you couldn't even prevent you from being infected, and yet that was said everywhere, and well, if you basically use an aspirin and you declare it gets rid of your pimples, that is an off-label statement, because, yeah, aspirin is, you can, yeah, it's used for, for preventing clotting, and it's also a painkiller, so these are the two things that it's basically labeled to be brought on the market, and anything else that you would say it creates is basically a lie, that's an off-label statement, and it's illegal and it's punishable, so any politician and anybody of any of the health officials that claimed you could protect anybody, you could prevent transmission, I won't even go into all the statements that were done, not only in the US, in Canada, in Germany, everywhere in the world, we were told constantly on TV and by the health official it would do all of these three things, but it wasn't even an endpoint of any study, so it's an inappropriate off-label use, so, yeah, there are quite a few other things I could point out, but this is it, because we want to dive into other topics as well. (17:14 - 24:03) Now, if I'm understanding that last slide correctly, what you're telling us, and I don't know about in Germany, but here in North America, it was months before the authorities started to admit that, no, it doesn't prevent transmission, they started going on with that story of how it would reduce symptoms and make it more likely you'd survive, but based upon what you've just shown us, the authorities knew that it didn't prevent transmission before they ever released it. True, yeah, it was never an endpoint of the study, so, I mean, they are health professional in the RKI, you know, so they knew what the endpoints of a study would indicate, and it was known right from the beginning that it wouldn't do that, and it wasn't, well, it wasn't even investigated after that, so, yeah, so that was an off-label use. Now, you started by talking about some new information that came out from this leaked meeting that happened with Angela Merkel, Bill and Melinda, Gates Foundation, WHO, some of the other major players in this narrative, where they discussed things that you said they couldn't possibly have known at the time. What were those things that they were discussing? Well, guess what, it was like all the other games that were played with the WHO, it was planning scenarios for a pandemic and for a corona infection pandemic, so how did they all know? Yeah, we know what happened, yeah. They were planning the narrative in advance, yes. Okay, so now let's get on to some questions that I had as I reviewed your presentation, and I once again, I strongly recommend you go and watch it. It is by far the most authoritative debunking of the entire COVID narrative you will ever see, and all of it, as Christoph says, with official data from the RKI, which is the German equivalent of the CDC, but as I was watching it, because I've been involved and invested in this narrative for years, there was a discrepancy that I saw in data. You showed RKI data, which said that in March of 2020, the infection rate of COVID was actually 0.007 percent, vanishingly small. Hardly anyone had been infected. Around about the same time, though, Dr. John Ioannidis in the U.S., who is one of the world's top experts in evidence-based medicine, did a seroprevalence study in California, where he was finding between three and five percent of people who had been infected. What would be the difference, the discrepancy there? Because these are two very reputable sources, but they're coming up with different numbers. Well, it really comes down to what age group you're looking at. If you're looking in Germany at that time, we're talking in March, there were about 1,500, and then in April, there were about 1,500, 15,000 cases that were there. We're talking about a population of 83 million, so you can count for yourself what that means. These were the official cases that were registered by the RKI. But if you look at even Ioannidis in 2020, he said that above 50 years, you're talking about 0.01, and above 70 years, 5 to 15 percent, but on average, it's 0.1 to 0.3 in the analysis that I know. There were other studies done in April that showed, that was the Santa Clara seroprevalence study, for example, that showed a 0.1 to 0.2. There was the global IFR meta-analysis that was in October 2020 that showed a median of 0.27. So I think, if you look at the children, of course, that was basically not measurable. Even there, it was 0.002, but we know that no child basically died of COVID. It died maybe with COVID. It was severely immunosuppressed. But the numbers were extremely low. But as also the RKI, and just imagine, it was even published in the German medical, main medical paper in the Azte Blatt, which is basically a publication that every doctor reads in Germany. In March, it was published that the cross-reactivity antibodies towards the precursors of COVID-19, SARS, MERS, and all the other coronaviruses that have been out there in the decades beforehand, was 80 percent. 80 percent cross-reactivity. So even if you would have made positive results, and we know about basically the use of the PCR, but even by the inventor, was never meant to be a diagnosis of the disease. And we know about the false positive rate, that looking at different studies, whether you take 60 percent, 30 percent, or yeah, whatever, there are quite a few out there. It was never designed to get a diagnosis. So basically, this says, if you look at the numbers of hospitalizations, and in the presentations, you can also see that basically there was no crisis in the hospitals. Yeah, I just asked Dr. Mark Chauzy about his experience in his hospital. This was the same everywhere. Basically, you had less people in the hospitals, because many people didn't even dare. But certainly, in terms of intensive care units, there was never, never a crisis that could have excused the measures that were taken. Right. And the way that they pulled people into that, and I know this happened here in Canada, it happened in the U.S., I am assuming it happened in Europe as well, they would move patients around to hospitals so that they could get a hospital that looked full, get the TV cameras in there, show that, and then they would put that on. Meanwhile, all the other hospitals were empty. No one there. I had a person come on my show in 2022. And he was in Victoria, visiting his mother who was in the hospital with cancer. And it was about two o'clock in the morning. And he was decided to go for a walk. And he walked into the COVID ward at that hospital. Absolutely empty. (24:03 - 24:14) There wasn't even a nurse there. There was no one there. And laying on the end table in that room was the newspaper from that day, saying that the hospitals were overflowing with COVID patients. (24:16 - 25:42) Yes. It's just unreal. So now we have to get into how they were supporting this narrative, because there's some other questions that come out of this. The data that you have shows very clearly that was an extremely low infection rate with COVID, much higher with influenza. And something that a lot of people don't know is that H1N1, which is the most virulent form of the flu that commonly circulates, it doesn't come out every year. There isn't a new strain that comes out every year. And if you have a year where there was H1N1, you tend to have a lot of people dying from the flu, usually elderly people. And if the next year there isn't H1N1, it drops because they get milder forms and they survive that. And then it comes back the next year and it jumps again, because you've got all these weak people who managed to survive the mild flus of the previous year. And then they get hit with H1N1 and that finishes them off. And so what a lot of people don't know is in 2019, H1N1 was not circulating, but it was in 2020. And so once again, you had a whole lot of people being infected with H1N1. The other thing that people need to know that I've found out from all the experts that I've had the pleasure to interview over the years is that SARS-1 was out in 2003, and SARS-1 is 80% genetically similar to SARS-2. And so what was shown was that a lot of people who had contracted SARS-1 back in 2003 were immune to SARS-2. So that was another factor that there was an awful lot of people who were already immune. (25:42 - 31:16) In fact, I think some estimates I've heard were said 80% of the population would not get SARS-2 because they were already immune because of SARS-1. And so now that we have all this data to show that one, it was not nearly as virulent as we were told, it wasn't as widespread as we were told, that they were classifying other illnesses as COVID. And we know this from, there's lots of people who have exposed this information, that if somebody died and they'd had a positive COVID test, as you referred to with the PCR, which was misused, and you made a very true statement there, Dr. Karen Mullis, who invented the PCR test, in 2019 came right out and said, it doesn't tell you if you are sick. It is not designed to detect free infectious viruses at all. But they were cheating by ramping up the cycles to 45 in many cases. And if you run 45 cycles, you can find anything. And so they were getting all these false positive tests. And I think there was even a court in, I believe it was Spain, that in 2021 or 2020 even, ruled that it was a 97% false positive, and that therefore it couldn't be trusted. And so this is how they were gaming the system and fooling people with case rates that were false. While in fact, as you showed, the mortality rate didn't go up. So it was all a scam. The entire thing was a scam. And as you just revealed from this new information, the major players in this got together beforehand to discuss how they were going to boon dog the public into believing it. And, well, we know there have been several planning scenarios beforehand, in order to create this situation. And the more you look into it, and I am assuming that all countries have recorded transcripts of all the meetings. So we should go out and demand all these meetings in Canada, in the US, in Australia, in any country in the world. There are Freedom of Information Acts, and I think we would find the same thing everywhere. So a very important thing for any listener outside of Canada, please go out and demand all these protocols. They will be revealing, no doubt. Now, one of the conclusions you came to in your presentation was that the health authorities were pushing this narrative, not because there was anything behind it, but in order to secure more funding. Well, funding for what? How much funding were they securing and what were they doing with it? Well, I mean, as you can see in the protocols, the main decisions weren't actually done by the RCRI. They were basically done by politicians, and probably there's more and more leaking out by the military. Yeah, this is not confirmed, because they blackened the name of one important player, but it seems more and more evident that we're talking about a general that was involved in the COVID management. So directly the RCRI does, of course, received a lot of funding. Yeah, there were 530 million in 2020 in order to deal with everything. You can ask yourself why they were getting that much if they weren't able to say, as you can see in the presentation, they knew masks weren't working. They knew there was never an emergency, and yet, over their heads, it was decided that all of this, and including lockdowns, should be done. We are not even talking about the suppression of effective medication in the first year, because that to me was one of the biggest crimes of all. Yeah, it was censorship that was basically paid by the big organizations. We're talking about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. They gave loads of money for German NGOs, over 10 million in order to promote the global vaccine management. There was 1.4 million from Google and others in order to pay fact checkers. Yeah, you can see it was a system that was almost impossible to be set up in a few weeks. Yeah, it can't be, yeah. I mean, the German government gave BioNTech 375 million. They gave 1.3 million to BioNTech for lobbying it to get into the EU transparency register. There were people in the German vaccine group that was basically the advisors for the government. Many of them received funding from BioNTech and Pfizer, which in Germany, for some strange reason, can happen. They don't have to expose all of the money they're getting. (31:16 - 33:17) It was Transparency International that basically asked them to open up their dependency on the on the industry. There was a lot of mass corruption. There were 6.6 billion in emergency contract without oversight. There was a lot of money in many, many, many fields, all coordinated. So I wouldn't accuse the RKI of being dependent on money. But if you look at even the hospitals, I don't know how the payments were. If you had a COVID patient dying, it was around 30,000 here in Germany, 30,000 euros, that is well, incentives for doctors to vaccinate per shot that they were doing. There were some people basically closing their practice. We had even in my village, we had two doctors that only opened one day to take care of patients for what they usually were trained to. And the rest of the time they were vaccinating because they made much, much more money with the vaccines than they would have ever gotten through their normal daily work. So yeah, people in the public were paid, especially by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, millions and hundreds of millions in order to ridicule all the others. And lots of payment was officially channeled into censorship. And you can probably sing a song about that topic in Canada as well. I also happen to know that in the US at least, if a hospital had a patient who was in respiratory distress, and it was not a COVID patient, they received $8,000 from insurance. But as soon as it was a COVID patient, I believe the figure was now 21,000. (33:17 - 36:45) So they were giving them financial incentives to categorize these people as COVID patients. So Christophe, now that you have so authoritatively destroyed the narrative, shown that there was no pandemic, didn't happen, the entire thing was a scam, a setup. Now we have to talk about the consequences of those actions. But the first question that comes to mind is, what was the purpose then? I mean, let's stop pussyfooting around. This was an intentional scam, a globalist control scam to convince people that there was a pandemic when there wasn't one. And the result was lockdowns and catastrophic economic and social repercussions. Why? I mean, how many times have we asked ourselves that question in the last five years, Will? I think we've run through many theories. But I honestly think with what we can see here now, it never was about health. It was about centralizing power, that it was about not only centralizing in the individual countries, if you think the rollout of everything happened worldwide. So we have all these structures that are interesting, WHO, WEF, et cetera, et cetera, that if you talked about this was a conspiracy at the beginning. But if you look at the new pandemic treaty that's being set up as we speak by the WHO, it basically proves that we haven't been wrong. It's even worse than we think. Some people think at the moment it's a calmed version because they're very soothing in their vocabulary. They had all these public participations that went wrong because there was too much opposition in the past. But now they basically did it without asking us. It's a decision about us, but nobody asked us if we actually want this. And it never made sense to make everything centralized. We have different climate, we have different genetics, we have different diets, we have all kinds of things. For any disease, you need to look locally in order to create the correct management and we should never, never, ever be forced into a medication. There have been cases after the second world war, we know that what it led to, there's been the Nuremberg trial and the Nuremberg laws prohibiting this. And it was basically in all our constitutions, but for some reason they started changing constitutions. I never thought that in Germany a constitution, I thought it was the pillar of the foundation of our society could be changed, but they did it. They just changed the foundation of our society by creating new laws, just changing the basis of our law. And I think if you look at the digitalization, in 2019 everybody looked at China and said, oh my god, the surveillance state and the social credit system and everything that is not something that we aspire to have. (36:46 - 37:36) And all of a sudden you see all these cameras everywhere, you see digital proof of everything from a vaccine passport to a digital ID, to digital money, to everything. Basically giving people that control that system power over everybody. And for some strange reason, nobody sees this well. I've been traveling all over the world in the last few years as soon as I could step out of the lockdown again and there was facial ID in the middle of Tanzania at a small airport. You can't escape it anywhere. This is about control. Whoever is behind that, but it is about control and definitely not about health. And as you've mentioned, one of the primary avenues for that control is the WHO pandemic treaty. So let's talk about that for a bit. (37:37 - 38:39) And there's some factors that we have to take into account here is just how effective is their attempt for control through this centralized health system going to be? Because we have countries that are completely jumping on board with it. Just last week, Singapore passed a law to make it illegal to refuse a vaccine, punishable by imprisonment if you refuse. At the same time, we've got Donald Trump who has withdrawn from the WHO. Now, of course, that'll take a year. Withdrawn funding from the WHO, which has caused massive layoffs there, especially in the upper management, because they lost hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. funding. But then oddly, at the same time in the U.S., just yesterday, their real ID became a requirement for travel. You now have to have a digital ID to travel in the U.S. So we're going to start getting conflicting messages in some ways, but obviously we have some countries that are jumping on board, continuing to go along with it. Canada, unfortunately, is one of them. And we have other countries that are pushing back. (38:40 - 39:53) And as you mentioned, yes, this WHO pandemic treaty, it's a control agenda to centralize power. And they like, as you said, they like to soften it by saying, well, you know, we just give recommendations. You're not required to follow them, except that all the governments that are on board do. And this is what happened in 2020 when they said, do lockdowns, lock down the healthy population, which has never been done before in history and makes no sense whatsoever. So there's nothing stopping them from doing this again. And they're ramping up the narrative. But now here's another question that occurs as I'm talking about this. You know, we had Mark Trosey recently do a show on measles and debunking the threat of that. We've had the bird flu. They tried it with monkey pox. And they're going to keep trying to come up with something that will scare people. Do you think that they're trying to push towards another one of these lockdown scenarios? Or would they perhaps try to exert their control in a different way, such as saying, well, okay, lockdowns didn't work, but for everyone's safety, everyone now needs a digital health ID and a digital, you know, like the real ID, so we can track everywhere you're going and everyone you've come in contact with. (39:56 - 49:35) Well, I think there's no doubt that they're pushing for the next pandemic. And if you look at the amount of so-called pandemics, you just mentioned them, that they've tried in the past, I would include even Ebola a few years ago, but they all failed. But they seem to have been almost trials in order to get, they seem to just get the training ground with all these different pandemics out. The medication was prepared, the vaccines were prepared. It was all a disaster. Yeah. If you look at the medications that they used against the bird flu, tummy flu, it was basically not efficient. It had severe side effects. And the factories in Brazil and other places, they were already set up before the bird flu actually arrived. And that was a very strange thing. So they ramped up the production even before it appeared. That makes a little bit suspicious. And then they had the first swine flu vaccines ready. And you know that they had a different version for the government officials here in Germany, for example, I don't know that was in Canada as well. They had mercury in the one for the population, and they had the one without mercury for the military and the people in the official places. That was complete disaster. And yet our health minister, only last year, I think he proclaimed that they were able to withdraw the swine flu after three months because it had been so effective in controlling the pandemic, which is not true because the side effects with narcolepsy, there were over 20,000 cases that have been recognized, actually made it stop. So they knew it was all ineffective. And now they're constantly talking about disease x or something else that will come in order to be there. But the most important thing is to keep us in fear. We know from all the things that people in the opposition have told us about the effect of fear, basically blocking our frontal lobes, blocking our thinking capacity. So we're much more vulnerable to anything that we've been told. I think the important thing is to keep us in fear. And I'm not listening to, I haven't been to any mainstream media reports for quite a while, for quite a few years. Occasionally I catch myself trying to get a glimpse by listening to some radio, but this utterly fails because it's so so full of adjectives that basically, whether it's the fear of the climate, whether it's the fear of Russia, whether it's the fear of a new pandemic, it's fear, fear, fear. We had this very strange occupation of the human species with negative information. A friend of mine, he once founded a radio station in the US that only presented positive information. He was bankrupt after three months. Yeah, nobody wanted to listen to that. So we have this attraction towards fear and the many reasons out there. But one thing that's quite clear, especially looking at the amount of censorship that has been going on and is still going on. And most people have no idea. We had a few conversations outside of Germany because you couldn't do that. Even what I'm doing here, I wouldn't do it in Germany. Because of not only censorship, but suppression and people are still being sentenced to prison for having written out mask exemptions. Honest doctors are still having their licenses taken, bank accounts have been frozen of dozens and probably hundreds of activists, but you don't hear about them. So we know, I know about the medical field in which we're talking about countless doctors that are sitting in prison for having opened their mouth. And even last week, another one was sentenced to prison. So they don't even stop. Even with all these insights in the efficiency, inefficiency and even dangers of masking, people that were basically patient orientated were sentenced to prison. And if you look at Professor Bhakti, who's now awaiting the second trial for spreading anti-Semitism. If you know him, you know he's the kindest person on earth. He would never do anything like it. They're still out there to hunt and will, I think, what they're doing is they want to silence everybody now. And they want to threaten anybody who has opened their mouth, when they roll it out again, not to have this opposition again. So it's one thing to create one censorship law after the next one in all these countries, which they officially claim anti-hate laws, which is ridiculous. If you see what's basically still on the internet and what language is used. I mean, in Germany, for example, if you start to make fun of a politician, several people now have been imprisoned for just making a joke about a politician. So I think the whole thing got a little bit out of control. I think more and more people are realizing, but still with the censorship, which I think is one of the central things in to push the new agenda. And coming back to the WHO and coming back to the pandemic treaty, they now packed it in a nice way that it's not too obvious that they basically made it mandatory for all countries that belong to the WHO to follow their guidelines with huge implications and even fines. And that to me is just unbelievable. An organization that's basically 80% funded by private investors that decide where the money goes. And we know that since the 1990s, the majority of money is just vaccine bound. Where are all the health crisis that we have on our earth? We have cancer, we have cardiovascular disease, we have obesity, all these things. Look on the website of the WHO, you will hardly find it. And if you will find something, it's the recommendation of pharmaceuticals. So you can see the ties. And we know that cardiovascular disease is rooted in diet and lifestyle in 80 to 90%. So the approach would not be just to prescribe us more cholesterol lowering drugs as they now recommended in Germany, for example, for kids. That's the latest heart protection law in Germany. Never mind getting kids out to run or to eat less of that junk food. Maybe there's hope in America with Casey Means now, whatever you think about different nominations of different people. But maybe that this will be highlighted. I have great hopes with the recent steps in terms of health from the government at the moment in the US that things could at least change with our lifestyle and diet. That would be a great thing. For all the other things, I think the interactions globally are still very, very strong. But as you said, with the defunding of the WHO by the exit of the US, they already had to let go of almost one quarter of the workforce. Makes one optimistic that if other countries, I mean, there's Slovenia, there's Hungary, there are many African countries that are starting to question and don't want to their sovereignty to be taken away from them. And that's something I never understood. Even with the former government in the US, there's an organization telling these nations, these big nations, that it would basically overrule their national authority and would take away their sovereignty. How could that happen? How could any country agree? For other countries, but I can answer for Canada because Klaus Schwab openly stated a number of years ago that the WAF controlled over half the liberal cabinet. (49:36 - 50:50) So that's how it's happening here. You've made some very good points, Christoph, that the WHO, while they're soft peddling their pandemic treaty and making it sound non-threatening, what they're actually doing is tightening those legal reins so that they have control over the members countries with, as you said, threat of fines if you don't go along with what we tell you to do. At the same time, they're taking the players off the board who resist. Witness what's just happened to Reiner Fuellmich with a three-year prison sentence. Here in Canada, Chris Barber, Tamara Lich, organizers of the Freedom Convoy, who have just been sentenced to mischief, which is the blanket term they use for everybody here who stands up. And unfortunately though, that carries a maximum prison sentence of 10 years. And we're awaiting sentencing on that. Two of the Coutts 4 who were involved in the Coutts border crossing demonstration are still in prison and will be for a couple of more years. So they're sending this message that if you stand up to us, we're going to take you off the board. And all of that says to me, they are planning to do this again, but there is a challenge for them. And here's the issue, as I said, and I've had this with a number of very knowledgeable people, and perhaps you can confirm this as well. I knew at the very beginning of the COVID narrative that the entire thing was false. (50:51 - 52:37) And the way that I knew this was I knew a little known medical fact. And that is that with very few exceptions, the longer the incubation period of a virus, the less virulent that virus will be. And it was announced here on the radio in Calgary, I heard it when they told us that the incubation period for COVID was longer than it was for influenza. And therefore I concluded, well, therefore it is going to be less virulent, which is exactly what we have found. I have a personal theory and I can't really substantiate this. It's just based upon conversations I've had that this virus that they created escaped early. They weren't quite ready yet. They managed to make it transmissible, although your data shows not nearly as transmissible as we've been told, but certainly not virulent. John Ioannidis, as we talked about earlier, went on national news in the US in 2022 and referred to it as a minor flu. And by the way, that's the last time I ever saw him on mainstream media. They wouldn't talk to him after that. So they have a problem. We're trying to create a virus that's both long incubation, and it has to be so it can spread around the world before people start to get sick. They can't use something like Ebola. The incubation period is too short. The symptoms are too obvious. You just quarantine that and you shut it down, which is what they've been doing in Africa for years. So they want to create something that's both long incubation and highly virulent, because here's their problem. They bamboozled people the first time with a false narrative over a virus that just simply wasn't dangerous. I think to get away with it a second time, they actually have to have something that kills people. But I don't know if they can create it. I don't know if it can even be done. The only example I've heard of a long incubation virulent virus was smallpox. But we know that smallpox was not eradicated by vaccines. (52:37 - 52:43) It was eradicated by sanitation. It's not easy to catch smallpox. So they've got that challenge. (52:43 - 54:15) So what do you think they'll try to do to generate the fear again so they can have that control? Well, maybe if I could just go a step backwards, because I do think it was not a good idea to let us wait for a year to get a treatment for all the people infected. That was a very strange thing that alerted me to the fact that something was very, very wrong. Never in the history of medicine doctors have been banned to see their patients or yet to wait until they were so bad to go to a hospital. Because if there's any disease, you want to catch it early. Early treatment is always the key. Exactly. So that was cut out. And when I heard this, I said, well, what is going on? There's something very, very odd here. And when I heard the people in charge here in Germany, I'd be interested if they said the same thing in Canada at that time was, well, we need to lock you up. We need to save you until the vaccine is out. And then you looked at the approval studies and you could see, well, it was only a few months instead of 10 years that you normally use in order to get a gene therapy. A gene therapy, which it should have been called. (54:15 - 55:34) They just changed the definition of a vaccine before in order to bring it on the market because vaccines still had a good image. But that wasn't true. They needed to change. Nobody would have taken the injection if they said this is an experimental gene therapy produced by two companies that have never produced anything in their lives and a technology that has failed so far in all the years previously, in all animal trials that they've done and has never been used on humans. If this would have been the correct version, nobody would have taken it. So when I heard this, I said, well, this is very, very peculiar. What is going on? But with the theory of what actually happened around the occurrence, I'm still jumping from one theory to the next one. I know that the patents for the virus itself had been part of the patents of DARPA. So it was owned by the military. They knew how to design it. It definitely came from a gain-of-function research. We know from Montigny that even HIV was put on it, even if they denied it later on. (55:34 - 55:58) Unfortunately, Montigny died during the pandemic, but it was quite obvious. I just want to jump in and insert something really important for the viewers. When I was interviewing Dr. Robert Malone, he told me, and he's got the data to show this, and you were just referring to DARPA, the manufacture and distribution of the vaccines was financed in the U.S. by the Department of Defense to the tune of $40 billion. (55:58 - 56:48) What does the Department of Defense have to do with vaccines? Unless... Please continue. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's one of the big question marks in the whole saga, in the whole gain-of-function research in the first place. Is this ever about health? No, it isn't. If you listen to Professor Francis Boyle, a bioweapons specialist, he basically wants to shut down all L3 and L3 labs because basically they're all part of producing weapons and not medications. I've talked to people in the last few years that are involved in these labs, and they say, well, it's there that if our enemy produces, we'll have an effective medication. (56:48 - 59:15) I say, well, not an effective medication. All you're working on is a vaccine. You have to really ask yourself, if we look at the Iraq war, for example, the Gulf War syndrome, we know that it had been because of vaccines that had been tried on the people. This is no conspiracy. It damaged and killed loads of soldiers. Professor Boyle talks about 100,000 soldiers that have been injured by this strange disease that was probably most likely caused by the cure that it was supposed to have. When COVID-19 came out, we know that it already had been circulating in 2019. We know that from blood samples that had been recovered. Why did we see these pictures, remember, in China where these people were dropping dead in the streets, walking? Where did that come from? That was a very interesting thing because the whole agenda basically was then created through social media with these pictures that really frightened everybody and the coffins in Bergamo. We just showed a few impressions of that. Just to tell you that when Tom Lawson went to Bergamo and counted all the deaths there, he's just accumulating data of what occurred over there. We didn't see these pictures from anywhere else. Very strange how it was created. Yes, if they do bring out another pathogen, Marburg virus is being discussed. But as you said, even if all those fears are being created and even if they're working in their labs on creating something like it and whoever is behind releasing something, and you can still discuss whether that was an accident that it was released that made it being released to the public or it was intentional, I don't have the answer to that. (59:15 - 1:10:30) But the more you see, the more everything was planned, the more it points into the direction that something strange was going on. But as you mentioned, if there has been a highly infectious disease in the past, you isolate the people that are affected. So basically, a pandemic that is being thrown in front of us as a fear and then look at all the examples in the past, the 1918 flu, which there are many, many theories out why and who was basically affected, but it was by no means a pandemic in a traditional sense. We won't have the time to go into that at the moment. But if you look at the plague, if you look at smallpox, as you mentioned, it wasn't eradicated by the vaccine. That's not true. Most of those infectious diseases, think about cholera and other things that affected us in the Middle Ages, they were basically eradicated because of an improved hygiene. There's no doubt about that. So when the next time something would affect us globally, there's actually no way that it could do that naturally. So the only explanation we would have next time, this would be globally, that it's being released at several places all over the world. That's my opinion. In a traditional sense, and just listen to Professor Abakhti and all the professional people that have a good insight, they were never scared of a pandemic because the classical management methods, Peter McCullough talked about this a lot, with the classical means that we have in order to calm down an infectious disease, it would have been absolutely sufficient. And this would have meant in this case, protecting the elderly, which in over 90% were affected from a potential COVID death of the age of 83, 84, which is the average age in our areas. So yeah, they would have to do it in a more radical way. They would have to use something more pathogenic to scare people, no doubt about that. But with people like you spreading the information in the world, and who knows what censorship is going to do to all of us in the future, but I won't go into this scenario. I'm just saying that as long as there are people like you being able to spread this information, because people won't get any of this information from the mainstream media, there's no doubt about that, that people are waking up to all the side effects this pandemic has left us with. And I'm talking about many, many levels. I'm talking about physically, look at the excess death it has created, we're talking about almost 20 million deaths because of the vaccination. In inverted commas, I never call it a vaccine, it's a gene therapy. If you look at the countless psychological impacts, I can see it on a daily basis here, especially with children. If you look at the effects, even the masking and the social isolation had, there was this amazing case in Spain, I don't know if you heard about it, somebody still having locked up their children after five years in a room, and they weren't able to get out of it. The fear has just been crazy, and anxiety and stress, the communication problems, the consequences of all the isolation that it has led to, but I see the damage of these injections every day. And to me, there are many theories about the different vials and how much trouble they cause, but we measure COVID antibodies as a first indication whether the body might be still producing it or still fighting with it, and we've never seen units, BAU units, over a thousand with any infectious disease measuring the long-term antibodies, the IgG in the past. If you had a middle infection or whatever, you might have a titer of maybe a few dozen or a few hundred, never over a thousand, but we see in 90% of all the people that we see, and the World Council for Health is doing a big survey in Germany, there is Dr. Sabine Strebel who's doing a study on this, she also finds 90% of the people that have been vaccinated have BAU units of a few thousands or even a few ten thousands, basically meaning what we feared all the way, that they're still producing the spike proteins. This is a very likely, we can't 100% create the clear connection that it's only because of the prolonged production, but if you look at the recent studies, they've told us that it would basically be there for a few minutes, that it would be produced, it would stay in the arm, the spike protein, later on was said, well, you can find it all over the place and in any part of the body, but it wasn't weeks, it wasn't months, now we could see in the latest study that it was over 700 days that it was still being produced. We test here, Germany has two labs in order to investigate in exosomes, in immune cells, in serum, mRNA and also spike proteins being produced by the so-called vaccination. And the studies are not yet out, but you can see it, you can find it in the autopsies, you can see it now, as Kevin McKernan was showing, in the cancers, the SV4K sequences in BioNTech yet seem to be a smoking gun everywhere, who knows, we know from the past contamination of the polio vaccine that almost 100 million people got that simian virus, SV40 is a known cancer promoting agent and even if it's just a sequence, the SV40 sequence, it allows other genetic material to enter the nucleus, which we're probably seeing all over the place now, we have 12 to 16 mechanisms that it can cause cancer, we have all this damage on the cardiovascular system, some studies talking about a few thousand percent increase, one study even says a hundred thousand percent increase, and we can see all these patients on a daily basis with respiratory problems, they can't even climb up the stairs, but all cardiovascular checks are negative because nobody can find the spike protein invading the heart muscle, which has been shown in studies, the mobile studies coming out, just a recent one for the pancreas, that it's being invaded by the spike and not only by the viral spike, but the spike protein being produced by the injection, we have over 3,000 studies by now showing the harm of these injections and people are more and more finding out about what has been happening to their own health, the health of their beloved ones, the children, their spouses, their neighbors, and yeah, we'll see what this insight will lead to and maybe the next time, that's my big hope, people will be much, much more alert of what's going on, of course, they will fear if it's more pathogenic, but I hope we can get people out of that fear in order to become proactive and start being reasonable to look for alternative protection, to look for alternative treatments that are out because there's so many people all the time working when some emergency is out, we need a decentralized medicine, not just some pharmaceutical company making lots of money, we need the experience of thousands of scientists and doctors all over the world exchanging in order to prevent anything like that happening ever, ever again. Yes, and you've outlined the damages that come from these vaccines and it's something that my viewers are very familiar with because I've done many interviews on this, but there was an extremely shocking study that came out very recently, it was brought to people's attention by Drs. Mercola and Tenpenny, they didn't do the study, it's an Italian study, I'm sure you're aware of it, where their data concluded that on average, those who had taken two or more shots had cut 37% off of their remaining lifespan, which means if you're 20 years old, you're not going to expect to die in your 50s and the reason why that is so horrific and I'm hoping we're going to get some other researchers who will confirm their data, but something's being worked on here in Canada and once again, I'm sure you're aware of this, they call it the Aerovax vaccine, Health Canada is working on it, they received $8 million in funding, we can't prove exactly where that funding came from, but it seems quite likely from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, then that's just one lab at McMaster University here in Canada that's working on that, there's other labs around the world developing this vaccine and the way they market it is very clever, they just show people sitting down and taking an inhalation, but what they're not talking about is that the same thing could be sprayed from an airplane and infect everyone and we've discussed openly that this whole narrative was a control agenda, but we also know that globalists have a depopulation agenda and so it seems to me that a big part of that narrative was to convince people to take these bioweapons in order to reduce the global population and that's not even getting into the number of people who were sterilized by it, all the young people who are not going to be able to have children, it's going to be years yet before we're going to see the real impacts of that, but I personally believe that the global population has already begun to decline, we just don't have the data quite yet to show it, so if they get away with that, with those AeroVax vaccines, well now we're all at risk because it doesn't matter, they don't even, here's the point, they don't even need a pandemic, they can just spray it from the airplanes and infect everyone. (1:10:33 - 1:22:01) Well, we talked about informed consent and of course these methods that they are playing with, I mean they want to put it in the food, yeah, they already managed to put the mRNA vaccines into salad and can you please explain me if it's in a salad that you give to one animal, how it couldn't be eaten by another animal or it could be eaten maybe by the people handing out the salad, if you use a spray, yeah, how could you prevent it from staying at one place and not, yeah, affecting the ones in the same room, how could in transfecting mosquitoes, which they're already doing, yeah, not do the same thing, they are working all the time on their humanitarian task to vaccinate as quickly as possible and all the trials that have been done on these methods, of course they're done in Africa or in other poor areas on the planet, but yeah, who knows if they've already been doing this, but people should wake up to the thought that without their consent, their genetics, because they're investing in over 200 different so-called vaccines at the moment for any disease that you can think of, including heart protection, including diabetes, yeah, all things that I'm wondering what a vaccine should ever do in these areas, but they're basically playing with all these methods and I'm just writing something about the mosquitoes, I have been trying to prevent it by the release in several areas in South America and in Asia at several places where it has been done because of new insights that basically talk, you know, we've been instructed in our old days that gene is specific to a particular species, yeah, but what we now know that this is not true, it can cross species and depending on whether it uses their microbiome or whatever, I just wrote a written one about the E. coli bacteria that have been used in order to produce the plasmids, which are basically in all of us and in many other animal species as well, and we know that bacteria communicate all the time via exosomes, so they take a little bit of genetic material and they're transported from one cell to another, they exchange depending on the challenge that they have out there, they learn and what if they take on board all these new genes, cross it into other species, cross it out in nature, we definitely have no idea what we're doing here and this is the one thing, of course, that we always have to ask ourselves if anybody is investing in all these techniques, how do they prevent themselves, where's the antidote for them and their loved ones in order to keep themselves out of them, Professor Boyle in one of his latest interviews before his death said that remdesivir, which actually the antidote they were hoping for with COVID-19, that's an interesting one, I'd like to look into that a little bit more, but it makes sense, the way it was produced, the way it was marketed, the way all other medications were basically censored and the most dangerous and ineffective of all, remdesivir was actually approved and hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were basically banned and called horse dewormer and everything else, so yeah, we have to be aware this is not just a chemical they're spraying out there or putting into our nose to disinfect us, just about that, Peter McCullough always stresses this point that any respiratory virus, if you keep the nasal passage clean, disinfected, you can use hydrogen peroxide, you can use iodine or a nitrous oxide and we've been recommending that to all people, you decrease viral load by 90-95%, so you could do a lot by using a spray, but this should be on another level and it wouldn't be a to the ones around you and not a danger to the entire environment and not a danger to future generations, but because we know now, yeah, it has been integrated in our genome, this is completely insane, yeah? Yes, and you make a very good point and I'm going to ask you this question because I know that you were in touch with many of the researchers who are working on solutions, you're right, the globalists have toxified our environment and are continuing to do so, but while they are insane or psychopaths or whatever label you want to put on them, they're not suicidal, which means if they're doing this, they have a way to protect themselves and I've believed this for years, all we can do is find out what it is, I think they already have it, they've got something that's protecting them and if we can figure out what it is, we can protect everyone, do you think that's realistic? I think they must have a thought, they must have a belief that they are somewhere immune, but with everything we're knowing by now, Will, this has been an ill-designed technology, yeah, and you've had many people on your show talking about the dangers of mRNA technology and talking about no informed consent, they're now approving everywhere, in Europe they've already done so, in Japan they've already done so, in Japan it's even on the market yet, the self-replicating mRNA technology, so designed not to only produce spike proteins but mRNA and that's for the rest of your life, well with everything we know about immunology, with everything we know about switch of antibodies to ineffective IgG4 and thus increasing your chance, there was a recent study that comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated, that vaccinated have a five-fold increased chance of being hospitalized for COVID in our times in comparison to the unvaccinated because they basically have had immune damage and they've had now a switch to the wrong antibodies which can't defend them in case of a new infection, so yeah, I would think that they had a plan but I think it might have been ill-advised with the people that basically told them what to do because if remdesivir was one of these attempts, that wasn't good enough and if we now know about all the aspects of this gene therapy, I mean the Moderna shots, we now found the HIV sequences that were inserted and not declared, SV40 was not declared, this is serious stuff, this is not just anything, this is basically cancer causing agents and immune suppressive elements which could cause autoimmune reactions, whatever, that in my view if they've been integrated in all cells of our body, there's no antidote to do that and I know there have been people that want to create sort of mRNA technology attempts in order to rewrite the genes in our body but all we know with this CRISP technology and mRNA technology, we should be a little bit more humble about genetics because basically we have no idea, yeah, we discovered these 23,000 genes, we thought now we've understood the humans, we know now even some little insects or plants have more genes, so in their theory they should be more complex and more intelligent than us but that's certainly not true, we don't know about the interaction of all these genes, we don't know how many proteins each gene is producing, look at this experiment with all these collateral damage in producing in frame shifting all these other proteins in our body, yeah, we have no idea, look at the embalmers getting all these, yeah, long clots out of the body that have never been there, are they the result of a rewriting proteins that have never existed before, we don't know, we just don't know but to assume that if they've used this technology, they have an antidote, I'm not sure that they do, I'm not sure that they can ever have any. And you raise a good point that I hadn't considered that they're messing with things they don't understand and so yes, perhaps they believed they had a way to protect themselves but maybe they don't, there could be a certain justice in that that eventually their own vengeance will come back to bite them. Now Christophe, I have a final question and I think you're the ideal person to answer it and my question comes with a confession. So I was a paramedic when I was young and for most of my life, I was a huge believer in allopathic medicine, let's call it the medical industry, pharmaceuticals, doctors and I looked at people such as yourself, osteopasm, chiropractors, oh they're quacks, now in the last five years, I've come 180 degrees the other way, you just would have to drag me kicking and screaming into a doctor's office. I do not trust those people and unfortunately there are good doctors but they've all lost their licenses so we can't go to them. And so the question I'm going to ask because you know as an osteopath, one of your specialties is protecting people from getting sick in the first place rather than dealing with the problem afterwards. The medical, once again, industry has lost a great deal of faith among the public in the last five years and the question that a lot of people would ask is how do we restore it but that's not a question I'm going to ask. The question I'm going to ask is should we or do we need a massive paradigm shift in people's thinking because what's happened very intentionally with big pharma and you know it all started back with Rockefeller over a hundred years ago is they've brainwashed people into believing that it doesn't matter what's wrong with you, we can give you a pill for that. But that just turned out to be completely false. (1:22:02 - 1:27:28) By and large, these drugs just make things worse. So the question, should we even try to restore faith or do we need to really start working on changing people's thinking and getting them to take responsibility for their health? Well, that's one of my favorite topics. Yes, so I'm currently writing with Dr. Nails, he's an amazing mind here in Germany at the moment, a summary for the medical system of the future. So we've already handed it over to the Kennedy team. We've already written about it and it's going to be hopefully discussed there and I hope we can get to the point that you just mentioned. It's not about recovering faith in the system that has existed because as you mentioned, it was basically bought by the oil industry and Rockefellers and they had suppressed all other medical approaches when finding the idea that medicine could be lucrative. And that's the other thing. The thing that invaded the medical system like a cancer was money. This is the main problem. Hospitals have to be profitable, the local doctor has to be profitable in order to work and this is not the way medicine should work. And we have always in China, you had the idea and this is apparently true that you only pay the doctor when you became ill. He must have made something wrong because you should still have a right to be healthy. And if you look at the majority of modern diseases, there are people like Professor Ornish, Dr. Esselstyn and many, many others that are talking about how diet and lifestyle circumstances are determining the top eight of our top 10 killers. So anything that you've been told that you take this and this drug and therefore it disappears is a complete illusion because the reason why we're having the cancers, why we're having the cardiovascular deaths, why we're having the diabetes is because of our lifestyle. And we know that. I mean there was the first heart attack in 1930. Now look at the number one death cause, 40 percent of all deaths are cardiovascular diseases. Something must have changed since then. Look at our youth. If there was a cancer, it was a tragic thing that happened in the neighborhood or in our village or in our community, whatever. But it's not the number that we're calling out at the moment where every second man and soon all of us, as the oncologists claim at the moment, will get cancer at one stage or another during a lifetime. So we have to ask ourselves where are all these true pandemics coming from. Look at obesity, diabetes. These are serious things. And look at autism. And if you look at the rate autism is exploding at the moment, if you look at studies from MIT, you will have every second boy being autistic by 2030. This is just around the corner. So there will be no pill that will cure all of this and no gene therapy that will cure this. And basically to understand that the entire patents for the pharmaceutical industry, they basically are overdue. So they can't, they can put all those repurposed drugs on the market and it's very hard to bring anything new on the market. The only thing that basically is profitable is biotech. So that must be one of the big, big things why this whole thing, gene therapy was labeled a vaccine in order to bring genetically modified plants. Then we did it with animals and now we're doing it with humans. That was the last thing that they could do. But if we look at, I mean, I'm here on my little mill with my animals. I have my donkeys, my goats, my sheep, and yeah, my dogs, my cats. My animals are never ill. They basically die of old age at some stage. They're just eating what's out there in nature. And it's very interesting whenever I used to have a vet over for certain things, it was antibiotics and steroids that were applied to all of them. And one day I said, well, I can do that, but I don't need these offensive weapons for my animals that cause further problems. And then I went and looked into all these alternative vets and all the old books that you can hardly get in there. (1:27:28 - 1:29:37) All the recipes are out there. And if we want to reform the medical system, it's unfortunately the old generation of doctors, you can still see some that had a broad perspective. They knew the family, they knew the individual patient with its entire story. They knew about the diet. They could first refer to some local herbs and anything you could find in their area. It's amazing what we have in our front yard that we can use for most problems. But in the 1970s, there was a tendency and there were books written about this. One is the Nemesis of Medicine, which was an eye-opener for me, was basically the discovery that the industry took the responsibility for their own health away from the people and gave it to the medical system. So they made them dependent on the medical system. And that's something that you can see in the dress of the white coat. And what unfortunately is the case that the doctors, many of them with good intentions, but I fear many of them with the intention of money and power as well. That's another thing. They have lost this insight of what health is all about, because they have forgotten to define health. They're very good in defining all kinds of diseases and they constantly invent new ones so they can bring on new drugs. But they are completely oblivious what it means to restore health. And this is the foundation of what we should do in the future. And I actually made an online course on restoring vitality. It's a 10-day course where people then can try to see which micronutrients are important, how much time should we stand outside, how much of the sun actually we need a day in order to get our good chronobiology. (1:29:38 - 1:30:01) These are my little attempts in order to feed the medicine of the future. But in my other life here, apart from many, many other lives that I'm having, being in the World Council for Health, we're trying to empower people for a better way. So we're trying to empower people getting into contact with all people that support health. (1:30:02 - 1:31:19) And I can only invite everybody to subscribe to the World Council for Health. I did my own sub-stacks now. I'm writing most of the sub-stacks for the World Council for Health, but I also now have my own Substack accounts. And I just opened an X account, which will be in the next few weeks. So anybody who would like to follow our path to a new medicine of the future, and I hope we'll hear soon of the feedback to create a new one. We basically don't need the restoration of the old one. We need a new set. We need a little revolution in order to break it apart and then put it beautifully back together. All right. Christof, thank you so much for your time for this interview, for the excellent research that you've done. And folks, I want to let you know something. We here at The Iron Wire do not have deep pockets. Christof, Dr. Mark Trozzi, Dr. Peter McCullough, Nicolas Hulscher, all the people who are involved in our TruthRx show are donating their time for that. So Christof, once again, thank you so much for your efforts. Well, thank you, Will, for everything you're doing. Great work.