(LifeSiteNews) — After drawing national attention for defending authentic marriage in 2009 as a Miss America pageant contestant, Carrie Prejean Boller witnessed to the same truths in a recent interview with Russell Brand.

In a candid exchange, the former Miss California, who converted to Catholicism last year, responded to a common question from Brand, who was trying to reconcile his understanding of the dignity of the human person, with the reality of grave sin and the joy we are created for in Jesus Christ.

The British comedian and podcaster openly shared about his own recent conversion to Christianity and his ongoing exploration into theological and spiritual formation, including his praying the Holy Rosary and his love for the Blessed Mother.

With clear passion, he proclaimed his love for Christ and his desire to “die on the cross so that he can be reborn in me” and “have nothing between me and him.” Yet, with apparent sincerity, he voiced uncertainty regarding Christian revelation that affirms an absolute prohibition against homosexual acts.

“I’ve got some friends that are gay but love Jesus. A few, actually,” he ventured, questioning whether or not the Church disproportionately focuses on homosexual acts compared with other forms of sexual immorality.

Conceding that he couldn’t “back up his theory with scripture,” he proposed “that all sexual immorality is under the same deal,” suggesting that committed same-sex couples “living honorably with one another” who “love one another” are not significantly different from heterosexual marriages once “eros is (not) the very center.”

Responding with understanding and precision, Boller recalled the 2009 marriage debate that became a big part of her life and identity.

“During 2009, the whole gay marriage thing people would say, ‘Well, love is love, you should be able to just marry who you love,’ right? Is that your stance?” she asked.

Brand replied that he wouldn’t want people who “love each other, that are living good lives, to feel like they are somehow unacceptable to Christ,” adding, “I don’t like that feeling very much.”

After she expressed her understanding of his feelings in this regard, Boller challenged the logic of the position, directly asking that if the definition of marriage does not necessarily include acts proper to procreation, why should it even be limited to just two people.

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“If I love a man and a woman, say I love both, why can’t I marry both?” she asked.

Brand conceded, “I don’t see that as a favorable position. I don’t agree really with bigamy and polygamy” and went on to identify the core issue of Christianity being “have no other gods before me … if you put your pleasure ahead of God, then that is not cool.”

But he struggled with the idea of “many people” in the Church who are very happy and “having the time of their lives, condemning same sex attracted people or gay people.”

In response, Boller offered, “When you really love someone, when you really, really love them, you want what’s good for them,” and this entails witnessing to the authentic good that comes from rightly ordered personal lives that build strong societies.

“Throughout the history of the world, societies are built on men and women coming together. ‘God created male and female’ perfectly to be together,” she recalled. When “you look at Genesis, you can’t deny that.”

“And so, to say, ‘Well, I think God now is a liar and I think that he wants two men to be together, and that’s the ideal relationship,’ I think would be a lie. And I think that when you really love someone, you shouldn’t lie to them. And you shouldn’t just say, ‘Yeah, you can get married,’” she affirmed.

America needs to defund Israel

Boller, who is a former member of President Donald Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission, became a focal point of controversy in February after she challenged the notion that one has to support a Zionist agenda in the Holy Land or be branded with the label of “antisemite.”

“As a Catholic, I don’t agree that the new modern state of Israel has any biblical prophecy meaning at all,” she accurately affirmed during contentious exchanges with representatives of the Jewish Zionist community.

In her presentation, Boller cited passages of sacred scripture, multiple Catholic scholars, and Jewish leaders to argue that neither opposition to political Zionism nor criticism of Israel’s genocidal war in Gaza can be reasonably labeled as “antisemitism.”

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Regardless, Boller was ousted from the commission by President Trump, whom she considered to be a decades-long friend as well.

Since this time, she has implored her fellow Christians to be consistent in their pro-life convictions in speaking out against the Israeli government’s “complete genocide” against the Palestinian people, the tragedy’s roots as proceeding from the “heretical” Zionist ideology, and how this ongoing crime propelled her conversion to the Catholic faith.”

She has also warned against the widely recognized influence of the Israel Lobby on American politics.

Covering these topics with Brand as well, she lamented the abject poverty in her hometown of San Diego and said, “yet here we are giving all this money to a foreign country (Israel) and we get nothing in return.”

“In fact, we get bad things in return. We get wars in return,” she continued. “We literally are in this war with Iran on behalf of Israel. Everybody knows that by now. We had no business going there. And because Bibi (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu) wanted it, Bibi got it.”

Proposing a first step to a solution, Boller said, “Let’s start with defunding Israel and let’s see where things go in America. Let’s start with that.”