Will Dove  00:06 Now we're starting to get into the repercussions of the fact that there's DNA in this. This section, it seems that the first part like it's a little bit of a repeat of what Mark was just talking about, but it's not really it. Once again, it's tying things together. So please stay with us here. Dr. Trozzi  00:20 It turns out that these injections contain 35% of the genetic content, not as mRNA, but in the form of DNA. And that includes intact DNA plasmids, the ones we just talked about, that were initially put into the E coli. Now, to put this 35% into context, the European Medicines Agency has stipulated that DNA should not amount to more than 0.033% of the total nucleic content. So the real content of DNA is more than 1000 times above the allowable maximal contamination limit.  So let's talk about the DNA plasmids and the genetic sequences that they contain. So as I mentioned, first, they contain the DNA version of the genetic code for the spike protein. Secondly, they include a sequence which encodes for a protein that will render bacterial cells resistant to Canna myosin or Neomycin, both antibiotics. Third, they contain a plasmid replication inducing sequence. So what that means is it contains a genetic sequence that helps induce the replication of the plasmid by the bacteria that they're inserted into. And fourth, and only in the Pfizer vials, not in the Moderna vials, there's also an SV40 derived sequence, which can induce plasmid propagation in human cells. So what do I mean by an SV40 derived sequence? So SV40 is an abbreviation for Simian Vacillating virus or Simian Virus 40. And this is a virus that's found in both monkeys and humans. It's a DNA virus, it has the potential to cause tumors in animals. And it also often persists as a latent infection. So humans and animals can have this SV40 virus in their system, just latently there. So though the SV40, plasmid propagation sequences were not found in the Moderna vials, the fact that many people have latent SV40 viral infections, and latent viral infections with two other similar viruses, BK and JC viruses, that may provide the mechanism for plasmid propagation into human cells in those people, even though they got the Moderna vaccine, which didn't include the plasmid propagation, SV40 viral sequence. Will Dove  03:11 Okay, so there's a bunch of stuff to unpack there. But I want to start with this. Because when I was listening to Dr. McKernon, the first thing that went through my head, and so I know it's going to be the first thing that goes to the heads of many of my viewers is, what do you mean 1000 times? Why was their DNA allowed at all? Dr. Trozzi  03:25 Well, yeah, there isn't supposed to be so you know, if you think of this manufacturing process, so they create these plasmids, they infect a bunch of E coli with the plasmids, they feed the E. coli and let them reproduce for a long time, they throw in the antibiotic to kill all the ones that don't have that didn't take in the plasmid, then they take those E. coli, they basically rupture them, release all this genetic material, then they, you know, tweak the DNA a little bit and use it to generate messenger RNA, which is what supposed to be in the shots, which I still would never want injected in my body, but and then they're supposed to eliminate that DNA. They have an enzyme - like a DNA is like an enzyme that digests the and DNA that they're supposed to then put in there to break down all the old DNA. So all that's left is messenger RNA. I don't trust these people. So I don't I don't just say that any of this is just a mistake. Because not only do you find that 35% of what's there in terms of the genetic stuff is actually DNA that actually includes completely intact plasmids. And now, if you notice in Pfizer, why is there an SV40 derived sequence which can induce plasmid propagation in human cells? Like why is that even there? Will Dove  04:49 Alright, so now that we've laid that little bit of groundwork of why is it there at all? I want to play devil's advocate just for a second because this is the second question that occurred to me because we've already established that the mRNA through reverse transcriptase and encodes DNA in the victims so that they start producing the spike proteins quite possibly forever. We don't really know yet. So the devil's advocate question is, well, what difference is it making their DNA in there? Because it's already causing the host to produce their own DNA that does this? Dr. Trozzi  05:19 You might remember in that discussion with Dr. McKernon. And he said, Well, when you have reverse transcription, you're gonna get a mosaic. And what he meant by that is, so let's say somebody's been injected with this stuff. And so they've got, let's say, didn't have the DNA in it, they have a bunch of messenger RNA and some cells are going to, through the reverse transcription pathway are going to take to go the opposite way that that our body goes, our body takes DNA opens it up to make an RNA takes the RNA out of the nucleus to make a protein. But that's true. There's a reverse system, there's what's called reverse transcriptase and other enzyme. And we know from studies, some of the initial ones in human liver cells from about a year and a half, two years ago, that Oh, my God, they could find some cells that had undergone reverse transcription. And that did actually include now in their nucleus DNA that match the artificial RNA. Now, how much? And I've talked to some scientists who are closer to this, and they say, Well, you know, you got to go through a lot of cells to find a couple that had that in it. So it's not like every cell in the human body, reverse transcribed into messenger RNA. So let's say we, let's say we look at it from a nefarious point of view, which is kind of hard not to do given the history, this would increase the effectiveness quite a bit of of invading the human genetic code. Will Dove  06:46 So what you're saying is it by injecting people with DNA, and not just some, a lot, you're vastly increasing the potential for damage. Dr. Trozzi  06:55 Yes, you vastly increasing the potential for Geno toxicity to to have toxic effects on humans chromosomes, and also to genetically modify the person, for instance, to become a spike protein producer potentially, forever, or even perhaps in their progeny, like even children could be born and be genetically modified. If a mother's egg cell, particularly vulnerable, this father's sperm cell had undergone either incorporating the plasmid into the genome, or through the reverse transcriptase path had incorporated the messenger RNA for spike protein into the human genome. Will Dove  07:39 Now, just to clarify something, because, once again, this is my understanding, so please, Mark, correct me if I got this wrong. Because there's a lot of confusion, as far as I know about the ability of the shots to change our genes. And my understanding was that the change that's happening isn't actually in the nucleus of the cell. It's in the DNA that's in the mitochondria, because we have mitochondrial DNA as well. And that that's where it's making that change. But the problem is that that mitochondrial DNA does get passed along in the sperm. And can be potentially we don't know yet for sure, but potentially passed on to the child through that route. Now, do I have that right? Or am I off base? Is it actually making a change in the in the nucleus of the cell? Or is it the mitochondrial DNA that's being affected? Dr. Trozzi  08:24 I'm not sure if it's limited. And I don't know if we know that it's limited, because again, we're playing catch up and answer to whether or not it's limited to mitochondrial DNA. Will Dove  08:33 Okay, so the quest the blunt answer is we don't know. But we do know that the potential is definitely there. And that, you know, the very knowledgeable scientists who have looked at that and said, yes, it could potentially be passed on to the child. So now it's part of the human genome, that they're just generation after generation, assuming that they don't end up sterile and unable to reproduce, we're going to have this line of human beings that will continuing through the generations keep producing these toxic spike proteins. Dr. Trozzi  09:04 It's a possibility. It's a very real possibility. And it's strange how in the last few years we've gotten used to be like, I mean, not for Dr. Hoff, and Phillips and myself, and, you know, that whole huge group you, we haven't thrown away the precautionary principle, but the precautionary principle has been thrown away. You know, there's this idea that until you can prove it does something terrible, you have to assume it didn't do it. But that's the opposite of, of the Hippocratic Oath, first, do no harm. If the potential is there for this to happen, then we should avoid it unless there's absolutely no adequate justification and you know, an infection with a 0.015% mortality that can be treated with safe effective medicines. That's not justification for this sort of random recklessness, Will Dove  09:53 of course, and what we should be doing is doing lab and animal trials before we ever inject the stuff into human beings to see what happens But what few animal trials have been done, as far as I'm aware have all been disastrous. Dr. Trozzi  10:04 Yeah, I think that, you know, I mean, this is my opinion, but the crisis was an excuse to not do animal trials. But I think that animal trials would have interfered with this agenda and the massive profits because it would have demonstrated what previous both messenger and any therapies and what Coronavirus vaccines have proven in the past is it does not work. It makes things worse. Coronavirus has evolved quickly and the only thing that's going to beat them is a healthy immune system. And it does it very well. Will Dove  10:41 Right. And the two animals that I'm aware of one was with ferrets, where they injected them with this stuff. And then they expose them to the Coronavirus. And as our as far as I know, all of the ferrets died, I think it was like 17 or 19 ferrets in this study something like that they all died. So there was a problem right there. And then there was a study done with rats. And the reason why they use rats is because rats breed very, very quickly. So you can get these generations and see what happens to the offspring. Whereas with the human race, we may not know for 20 years, what the repercussions are going to be. And with the rats, when they did that trial, after a single injection, they found that 17% of the rats were now sterile. And this is rats, we're talking about this is one of the most common species on the planet. That's the expression. Yeah. And yet, now these rats don't breed. Dr. Trozzi  11:32 And you know, you did some great interviews with Christoph Ploth, who looked at the statistics and the data we've published about that as well. I mean, when you roll out these injections to childbearing age portion of population, nine months later, your birth rate drops 10 to 25%. So there's no surprises there. Will Dove  11:52 Right now, well, I want to get into this the SV40. The drive sequences, this the Simian virus, before we do, folks, just a very quick explanation of what a latent infection is. A latent infection is you've got the infection, you don't have any symptoms. So let's get a little more into that, because I gotta, I gotta confess, this was one part where you lost even me, I'm not really sure the significance of this, so please explain it. And hopefully we can get something here that we can all understand. Dr. Trozzi  12:21 Okay, yeah ,sure. So, yeah, you know, when people think of a latent infection, I mean, an easy one, that's not the same, but similar is herpes, cold sores. You know, I mean, when a person gets a cold sore, it's not because they suddenly contracted the virus, it's because the virus which was latent in their body was activated, when often they were stressed out, their immune system was down, or certain amino acids were in high concentration, and then the virus becomes active and you, you get a cold sore. So like you said, a latent virus is a virus that is not currently visibly causing clinical symptoms, but the virus is present. So this SV40 sequence, and you'll see this show up and a lot of gain of function research. Judy Mikovits talks about it quite a bit when she talks about HIV. So this, this particular sequence that they derive from this virus can induce plasmid propagation in human cells. So again, why is that there? There was, on the surface of it, there was never any intention to give people plasmas. On the surface, there was never any intention to give people an injection of DNA. They were just using E. coli, infected with plasmids to produce DNA. So they could use as a template to make our day and that's all they were going to inject us with. Well, then why did you include a sequence which can induce the propagation? In other words, can it induce this plasmid to reproduce inside human cells? In other words, cause that circular chunk of DNA, which is the plasmid to be copied inside the human cells? That's a very good question that I think, you know, should be one of the, you know, the 1000s of pages of questions that we should have for these people in the criminal court system. Will Dove  14:15 Right. And let me see if I can just boil this down to very plain English. So what they're trying to sell, and this isn't what actually happened, but what they were trying to sell was the idea that by injecting people with this mRNA, that would produce a certain amount of Spike protein, that the immune system would recognize that spike protein and develop an immunity to it. But once the immunity is developed, there is no reason to keep the spike protein in the body. But what's happened instead, and has been magnified by the fact that they're injecting people with DNA microbial plasmids. And the ability for the body to produce yet more of these plasmids is you have now turned the body into a factory to produce spike proteins continuously, which is going to lead to the autoimmune response that leads to the chronic inflammation that leads to disease states, which is what results in all of these health problems. How did I get that essentially? Correct. Dr. Trozzi  15:11 Completely and you know, now we've got the coroners testifying all over the world. I had a roundtable with the inquiries from the NCI last week. And what's the story they tell? They tell the story that Oh, geez in 2020 I mean, people remember how busy they are if you sell ice cream, and suddenly there's a run on ice cream. You'll remember it. These coroners do not remember being busy. Will Dove  15:35 Now, just a second. I want if you're using the term coroners, do you mean Undertakers? Dr. Trozzi  15:41 Yeah, yeah, the Undertakers - coroner is a different thing. Oh, yeah. My apologies. My apologies. Will Dove  15:47 I just don't want to confuse people because we are aware of the Undertaker's Jonathan and Looney which are the two of the best known I did an interview. They were in the documentary, Died Suddenly. So these are the people these Undertaker's and so please continue. Now that we've clarified that, Dr. Trozzi  16:02 Thanks for clarifying that. So the Undertakers they weren't they weren't busy. In 2021 we were told everyone was dying of COVID, right? It was businesses, they got they got busy. Like they noticed some weird things because they when they would go into hospitals and said, Wow, look at the elderly, they're neglected. They're laying in their own feces and urine and all kinds of horrific things. But then they had a busy wave on the second set of lockdowns because people started killing themselves and overdosing on drugs, right? Once the injections rolled out, just like the data shows, the the experience of the Undertakers is, wow, now we're busy. We're like, we're really busy. There's a lot of people dying. And what do our pathologists show us? Why are those people dying? Well, a lot of the pathologists that are just going along with the agenda, and don't do the staining, don't see it. But your real pathologist like Burkhardt Cole, what do they see? They see throughout the body, the failed organs are laced with Spike protein. And they are destroyed by the person's own immune system. Will Dove  17:16 Right. And so this is where I wanted to go with this. And this is an extremely important conclusion, folks, because I laid out there what was going on with what they marketed the shots and what actually happened. And now we've got the evidence from Dr. McKernon. They're actually injecting people with DNA, there is no possible way that scientists who are developing these medications, people who work for pharmaceutical companies did not know that if you produce an autoimmune response that leads to chronic inflammation, that you are going to result in disease states, they know that. They had to know that. I mean, that's basic university medical science. And therefore, if there's DNA in these shots, that is the nail in the coffin. This is an intentional bio weapon. We've been talking about it for a long time. But I, in my mind that's the proof right there. If they were in a court of law, that is what I as a lawyer would use to nail their asses to the wall. There's no possible way you could put DNA the shots and not know what it's going to do to people. Dr. Trozzi  18:13 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. When you know, when you look at 10 years of path leading up to this, and then that's being given the story that Oh, it's just morphed from bats. You know, I mean, you know, that's a lie. So when people are lying right away, you got to think about the nefarious action of it. Let's see, even even if you cut them slack on that, which I personally do not vote to cut them slack on that. Once you know, something is killing people, if you keep doing it. Now, that's not - that's murder, okay? So let's, let's say let's give them the benefit that I don't want to give them but let's say that they didn't know. Let's say, we ignore the patterns we ignore all the information. They ignore the obstruction treatment, oh, we ignore all the evidence that this was very intentional. But the thing is, people have been dying for quite a while from the shots. People have been injured quite a while from the shots. People have higher viral loads that take the shots. People are more likely to get sick with Coronavirus. They take the shots that evidence is not new. That's been going on for a couple of years now. So the fact that they keep promoting the shots the fact that they still want to strip medical licenses from like Patrick Phillips and me and Charles Hoffe and everybody, like, they're still pushing it when it's clear. And that's where I was making a little metaphor you know, let's say innocently. I took a plant from the forest that I thought was good and I made a tea and I gave it to people. When people die after I've given the tea. The first time I made a mistake maybe but if I keep brewing the tea and giving it to people after I know it kills people, I keep promoting it. If I if I say don't Will lDove dare come here and Tell anyone don't drink the tea. That's murder, no matter what. So either way at this point, it's a bio weapon, right? Will Dove  20:46 Yeah, that's my understanding, too, Will. Dr. Trozzi  21:10 Wow. Okay. Well, let's move on to DNA plasmids. And what this means, First of all, DNA plasmids persist. And that may explain why we see injection victims producing spike protein for a time period long beyond the anticipated duration of messenger RNA of four days or so. Whereas we see people continuing to produce spike protein for months and even beyond that. Secondly, plasmid DNA can be incorporated into human DNA. And that would create a permanent and inheritable genetic modification that has multiple problems with it, including the eternal production of Spike protein being possible. Will Dove  21:57 Okay, so now we've got two more pieces of the puzzle here, if we're building a legal case, and I think that's kind of what we're doing right now, is in the latter half of that section, you talked about the eternal production. And I think we already addressed that. But I want to back up to the first part, where we're talking about these spike proteins being produced far longer than they should be. And there's a part here that we're not talking about that we should be. And it came out of my conversation with Dr. Malone. As some of you know, Dr. Malone invented mRNA technology, and abandoned it, when he realized that there was no way to do it without harming people.  And he's been trying to tell people the truth about that ever since. But one of the things that they did, when they changed these molecules, when they started monkeying with them, is they took the urethane out, and they replaced it with pseudo uredine, which is what makes these mRNAs continue to function for months and months, when they really should have broken down within hours or at the most days. And now on top of that, we've got the fact that they're using this SV40. They're injecting people with DNA to turn their bodies into production factories, for spike proteins that are structured, not with urethane, which is normal. But with pseudo uredine, which makes them last. We don't even know how long Dr. Trozzi  23:20 Yeah, so the pseudo uredine is what's modified in the messenger RNA, and what that does is it makes the messenger RNA last longer. Will Dove  23:31 Yeah, I'm sorry. I said in the spike protein. Thank you for correcting me. Yeah. Dr. Trozzi  23:35 So the messenger RNA lasts longer. And so that it can be read over and over and over and keep producing spike protein. It's one of the many ways they that you can see multiple pathways to maintain spike protein production. Will Dove  23:52 Right. So what we've got here then is had they left that alone had they left the Uredine in there, okay, you would have had this injection that would have caused mRNA to produce the spike proteins and the spike proteins would be toxic. But the mRNA would have broken down fairly quickly, like they said it would. But instead they put in pseudo uredine, which means that lasts much, much longer. We don't even know how long because they've, I think the longest they've tested people for six months afterwards, and it's still producing it. But it gets even worse, because now they've injected people with DNA, which is designed to cause their body to turn into an eternal factory for this stuff. It's now in their genetic code. So not only do you have this long lasting toxin in the or RNA strand in the body that's producing these toxic spike proteins, but you've got DNA that's coding for the body to make more of this mRNA that will make more of these toxic proteins ad nauseam forever and ever and possibly pass it on to their children. Exactly, Dr. Trozzi  24:52 I mean, the range of possible harms is huge. I mean, there is the absence of precautionary principle and what used to be healthcare is shocking. Will Dove  25:07 Okay, now folks have a very, very short clip now about what kind of what we're just talking about. Dr. Trozzi  25:13 Also, this can disrupt the genetic sequence at the site of chromosomal integration. And that creates multiple issues, most notably cancers, especially leukemia. Will Dove  25:24 So now, I think this kind of gets back to what we were talking about before with the rewriting of the code, and whether that's happening in the nucleus, it's happening with the mitochondrial DNA. But it's actually yeah, changing those chromosomes. So it's gonna keep doing this forever and ever. Dr. Trozzi  25:42 Yeah, and when you can imagine a book like, you know, the DNA is often compared to like the library of the genetic sequence for a person. So if I have a book, and let's say, I insert a pamphlet, between two books, okay, the books are both intact. But what happens when I insert that pamphlet in the middle of a book. Suddenly, that other book can't be read properly. So that's a form of Genotoxicity. I mean, if your body is trying to make a messenger RNA to make one of your pumps, or channels, or filaments of your cells, and the code is disrupted by this random other code, like say, plasmid section inserted into the genetic code, well, that's that's, that makes it impossible to properly read the genetic sequence. So not only you inserting other genetic material, you're disrupting your, your, your natural genetic information. Will Dove  25:43 Right. And I think we're probably another allegory that we could use for that is, and once again, let's take the allegory of reading a book, unless I only I only read English, and you've taken certain pages of that book, and you've replaced it with Russian, I can no longer understand this book. Because there's, there's parts of this, that I don't know how to interpret it. And so that's exactly what's happening in the body is it's changing our genetic structure of the people who are injected, such that it's causing errors. As as those codes are being read, to produce, because the cells in her body are constantly having to replace themselves. And they have to divide and they have to make copies, but they can't read the code properly. Dr. Trozzi  27:24 Right. And this is one of the reasons that genetic therapy has not been the big success that it was once hoped to be. You have children who are born with what are called inborn errors of metabolism. So there's a flaw in their genetic sequence, to create, for instance, a certain enzyme that the body needs to be healthy. And the result is that these, you know, various types of conditions that these children have very poor health, they deteriorate because their cells cannot do some of their basic function. So the dream was, Well, hey, we could just insert the genetic sequence to fix it, right? Well, why didn't that work in most of the cases was because of Genotoxicity, because yeah, while we may have inserted the genetic sequence for the enzyme, they're missing. We disrupted another section of their genetic sequence, where it tried to insert it and the kid got leukemia instead of being cured of his metabolic error. Will Dove  28:30 Right. And I thank you for that summary. Because folks, if you want more details on that, go watch my interview with Dr. Malone, because that was what he was trying to do. He, some people have attacked him for creating the mRNA technology. But that's he wasn't trying to make a weapon. He was he thought he had found the key to fixing genetic defects, that genetic diseases, that they could simply rewrite those sections of the kid's genetic code and fix the defects. But after years of experimentation, he found that there was simply no way of doing that without causing other problems at the same time, that were even worse. And that's why he abandoned it. So that's the problem that we're seeing here is now we've got the flip side of that we're introducing these defects into the victims, taking people who had normal relatively healthy genetic codes, and corrupting them. Dr. Trozzi  29:22 There's a complete absence of precaution. And you know, given the scientific background, you think of the budget of you know, think of all the money that Fauci took from the taxpayers in the US to do gain of function research. Think of how much you know money Bill and Melinda Gates have controlled and laboratory research at the idea that they don't know basic stuff that you could figure out with some textbooks. That's that's complete, you know, that's, that's claiming ignorance where it's just not believable that they're ignorant to this stuff. And I mean, it it brings us back to why why did they have to create an environment that we had to say, oh my god, billions of people are gonna die, we got to hurry up and do this real quick. I mean that was never true. And to boot, we could have buffered off 80 90% of the suffering, even just people feeling sick with COVID with like a handful of cheap, safe pills, like they did a lot of places in the world where they weren't handcuffed, like, you know, Dr. Phillips and others were in our country. Will Dove  30:28 Right. And it tends to add more weight to what you've just said. A another question. As if we don't have enough already, that people should be asking is why in the heck was the development of the so called vaccines funded by the US Department of Defense to the tune of $40 billion dollars. Department of Defense? What's that got to do with a vaccine? Well, unless maybe it's a bio weapon. These last two clips are quite short. Dr. Trozzi  30:55 A third problem with the high presence of DNA and plasmid DNA in the injections is plasmid DNA by design, enter bacteria, we are actually more bacteria than human cells by count, including mostly our gut flora, which includes E coli. So if our gut flora bacteria are modified by the inclusion of this plasmid to produce spike protein for a prolonged time, or perhaps forever, then the injection victims are constantly poisoning themselves from their own digestive tract. Will Dove  31:33 So, Mark, when I when I saw that, because I hadn't really connected that in my head yet. I mean, obviously, I have my own level of medical knowledge, some of our viewers will know that, you know, a substantial portion of what makes up our body isn't genetically us, it's our gut bacteria. And that gut bacteria being unhealthy balance with our body is absolutely essential to our health. It's not, you know, like we're being infected with this, this foreign body, it's, we have to have this. And in fact, it affects systems throughout our whole body and our good balance of our gut bacteria that gut flora, even affects our brain activity, even though it's down here.  And so what you've just revealed, is that this, this chromosomal DNA is getting in there, it's infecting the gut bacteria, because of course, we have E. Coli in our gut bacteria, at the very least, and it could be infecting other gut flora as well. And it's gonna throw that out of whack. And so that's going to cause yet another problem. And especially if, once again, that's in the genetic code that gets passed on to kids, and now they're going to have unhealthy gut bacteria. Dr. Trozzi  32:42 Yeah, it's all possible. That's the thing. I mean, are we saying, Oh, for sure that's happening? No, but it's highly possible. I mean, plasmids infect E. Coli. I mean, that's what they're designed to do. And E. Coli is part of our digestive tract. And there's a whole bunch of other bacteria in our digestive tract. So it's again, it just shows complete recklessness. And anyone who doesn't say, Whoa, we should hit the brakes should have never released this stuff. It's just being reckless. And that's the anti thesis of medicine. I mean, the fundamental premium do no harm, like the first thing to do as a doctor is don't hurt the person. Right? So this is very reckless. Will Dove  33:25 I'm gonna pick on your Mark, because I mean, you and I were on the same page here have been for a long time, and you're using this term reckless, and I think we could use that term two years ago. It's not reckless. It's intentional. Yeah. You and I both determined, this is intention. This is a bio weapon, it was designed to sicken, to kill, to sterilize, and now we know it was designed to do that very long term, possibly to the point where and we don't know yet, folks, and I don't want to kill anybody's hopes here, because there's scientists around the world working on this. But it may not be reversible. We don't know. Dr. Trozzi  34:00 Yeah, yeah. We don't. I mean, even from a point of view of say, people whose palms had been greased as we say, to go along with this, right? I mean, for instance, why why are there like 19 Investigators willing to get their paycheck and try and destroy Patrick Phillips, Krista Lychkiw, Mark Trozzi, etc. Why is it that they know that these shots are deadly bioweapons? Maybe not. And so in the case of people that are going along with it, that's where you get to this reckless thing. I mean, come on. I mean, we were full of E. coli, for sure the people in my opinion, for sure - the people at the top of this thing, your your Tedros is your Gates', your Fauci's? You know, the people that were present for Event 201. The people that own the patents for all this stuff. I mean, yeah, that's not recklessness. You know, there's no way they didn't know how dangerous and ineffective in any positive way these injections would be. I just can't believe that. But then all the people going along with it, you know, the people who approve it, the people who go after the doctors who say anything, any word of caution causing any "vaccine hesitancy" there, they're there that they're at the very minimum reckless, right. They're not applying the precautionary principle of above everything in medicine don't hurt the patient. Will Dove  35:28 Yes. And thank you for clarifying that, because you're quite correct. When I was sort of preaching at you about recklessness versus intention, I was focusing entirely upon the people at the top who created this. So you make a very good point, though, because, yeah, we've got because they're the machinery, the propaganda and censorship machine is doing such a good job of hiding the damage. Despite the fact that report came out released on the CDC website, just last week, showing that since the rollout, in the US alone, there's been over 1 million excess deaths, compared to 2015 to 2019. We've got, yeah, doctors, nurses, medical professionals, who bought into the narrative, who maybe genuinely believed that they were initially at least that they were protecting people from this virus. But I would say that at this point in time, two things number one, as you've already pointed out, none of if they're practicing medicine, they're seeing the effects. They have to be, and they're closing their eyes to it. But the point that I would make is that if we can get this information out there, that there's DNA in the shots, and understanding as I've already been harping on this, knowing what it doesn't folks, remember, I was just a paramedic, 35 years ago. As a paramedic, I only had two years of training, nurses get four,  doctors typically get eight there, and I knew this, I knew that if you start pumping people full of this, this DNA that's going to produce spike proteins that are foreign to the body, it's going to produce constant inflammation, you will produce a disease state. So there's no possible way these people can't know that. And so if this information gets in front of them, and I don't think there's any, I don't have a problem was saying this. Once they know this, if they continue to inject people, that comes back to what you said, 20 minutes ago, that's murder. Because now they know, they know it has to cause these harms. There's no possible where it can't. And now it's not reckless anymore, now it's intentional. Dr. Trozzi  37:30 I agree. And you know, the World Council for Health right now, we're like, not hours. Because we're responding quickly to this, we're in the hours of publishing a statement on this, which says another red line has been crossed. And there is no excuse for anyone to do anything with any of these vials other than quarantine them, and either destroy them or keep them as evidence. But no one should be injecting this stuff in anybody, even if the person has been deceived into thinking it's a good idea. Will Dove  38:07 Yes, because here's the point that I would make. Let's say we've got this hypothetical doctor up there who has been injecting people with this stuff. And they've been closing their eyes to all of the injuries they're getting, they've been convincing themselves that these are coincidences, that's its got nothing to do with the shots. Okay. Maybe I can buy that some people could blind themselves to that extent. But if you put this evidence in front of them, we've discussed today, there's only two possibilities at that point. If they continue to inject people, either. They consciously know what they're doing. Or they are completely incompetent. Because as I already pointed out, with only two years of emergency medical training, I knew this, what they have to know. As soon as they see this, they have to know what the shots are going to do. And so if they keep injecting people they're either incompetent, or now they're willfully engaging in murder. And either way, they should have their licenses taken away. We've got the two colleges of physicians coming after ethical doctors like you and taking away your license. They shouldn't be going after these people. Dr. Trozzi  39:22 Yeah, we need that we need the Charles Hoffe's and Patrick Phillips' and Francis Christian's and Crystal Luchkiw's, Rochagné Kilian's, Steve Malthouse's and Chris Milburn's and Peter McCollough;s. And you know, that list goes into the 1000s now, right? Yeah, we need these doctors to be in charge to clean up the mess because they were right the whole time Will Dove  39:48 Yes, they were. And so with that, I want to play the final clip, because this is where you summarize what the authors of this paper that you're referring to in the video. Have to say about it Dr. Trozzi  39:59 .....presencs of contaminating plasmid DNA in Pfizer's and Maderna's messenger RNA vaccine entails severe health risks. In addition to those which were already known and understood. Preeminent among these risks are the prolonged expression of Spike protein, which may lead to correspondingly prolonged and more destructive autoimmune-like inflammation and the induction of malignant diseases after chromosomal integration of the plasmid DNA. Furthermore, the sheer scale of the contamination proves conclusively that the manufacturers have not mastered or properly implemented the design production processes. Each of these issues alone would be reason enough to demand the immediate withdrawal of these vaccines. And that ends their concluding statements. Will Dove  40:53 And so folks, you can see where I've been going, and if you watch my interviews, you know, I do this, I'm constructing a case half the time. And I brought us through all the steps that Dr. Trozzi put into his video, we explained it in plain English so that you could understand the repercussions of this. And that's exactly the conclusions that the authors of the paper came to that this is, at best, reckless, and at worst, premeditated murder. Dr. Trozzi  41:26 I agree, Will, Will Dove  41:27 So Mark, I always try to finish with a message of hope. And I think the message of hope that we can pull out of this, and we kind of referred to it earlier, you are one of the the core members, the steering committee for the World Council for Health. And folks, I've talked about it a lot. So either you haven't been watching my interviews for very long or you've just joined us because I myself am on one of the panels at the World Council for Health, they are working very hard to become an alternative to the World Health Organization. They don't take government funding. They have doctors and scientists from around the world who are part of this organization to provide good health advice. And many of those doctors and scientists are working to try to find ways to correct this damage. And we can hope that eventually when they understand it well enough. And this was a key thing to find what Dr. McKernon found another major clue that's going to help these doctors and scientists to work towards treatments and possibly even cures that just might someday be able to reverse the damage. Dr. Trozzi  42:31 Yeah, and you know, if we can use a metaphor, if you have a leak in the roof, it'd be nice to fix the leak. Until you can fix the leak at least putting a bucket under it's a good idea. And what do I mean by that is the main mechanism, the main mechanism, as we can see, there's a lot of them. This is like a bull in a china shop. But the main mechanism of most of the harm we're seeing is occurring. I mean, let's set aside the immune system disturbance. That's a whole other problem. But the spike protein is at the root of the cascade of steps, the spike protein poisons the tissue, the spike protein stimulates the production of the antibodies that enhance the disease, the spike protein diverts the immune system responding to 10s of trillions of copies of this mRNA produced spike protein. So the spike protein is at the root of 90%, at least of what's happening in the body. And you can mop it up even if the roof is still leaking, right. So that's where we already have achieved significant steps in the hope. So what do we know already trances? We know that ivermectin sequesters the spike protein, so it's much less able to interact with the body and cause harm. We know that intermittent fasting stimulates the process of autophagy that is going to increase the rate at which the body can clear the spike protein. We know that Nattokinase helps to destroy the spike protein. Right? We know that pine needle tea has protective effects. So you know we already have achieved a lot in dealing with this. And we already have a lot of people who were injured who at least you look at them now and they're more functional. People that couldn't feel their legs that can, people that had brain fog that don't. So there already is people shouldn't just stay home people should go ahead and in what we have spike protein detox, the FLCCC they have advice there as well. There's great work by a Dr. Goodenowe on plasmalogens and I'm going to come out and learn more and teach more about that. The wellness company has a product that incorporates various of the elements of Spike protein detoxification. So, you know, we've already gained some ground, we're gonna gain a lot more when Peter McCullough is in charge of the laboratory, right instead of them trying to lock them out of the building. Will Dove  45:17 Yes. And folks, as always, you're going to find links directly beneath this interview on our website at StrongAndFreeCanada.org and at ironwiredaily.com, to everything that Dr. Trozzi just mentioned. So if you had been injected, if you're suffering the side effects, follow those links, getting on board with those treatments, because Dr. Trozzi is absolutely right. I've interviewed now a number of doctors and scientists who've talked about these methods - they work. They will definitely help to reduce the symptoms. And it's extremely important because what's going on here is that you're seeing the major problem is that chronic inflammation that is going to eventually cause disease states in the organs and once the organs start to fail, now it may be too late. But if you can prevent the damage from happening in the first place, through these treatments that Dr. Trozzi was talking about, you can probably hopefully stay healthy until, yeah, maybe the day comes when they find a way to permanently reverse the damage. Dr. Trozzi thank you so much for the work that you've done with that excellent video, and for taking the time today to explain it in greater detail. And for the work that you and the World Council for Health are doing.