Will Dove 00:00 There has been an increase in forest fires this year. In some cases, such as on Vancouver Island, a dramatic increase. Mainstream media, the government, and the climate alarmist would have us believe this is due to global warming. But there are problems with their story. Clear evidence of arson in many cases, the convenient timing of fires and Quebec blowing smoke into New York State just three weeks before new climate tax was passed by our government, fires in BC that are being allowed to burn while firefighters sit idle and police prevent residents from saving their own homes. Peter Mac Isaac served for many years as a forest warden and fire investigator. He's a survival expert who hosted his own hunting and fishing show for three years on the sportsman channel. And just a few weeks ago, it was Peter who posted a satellite surveillance video showing over a dozen fires over a wide area in Quebec, all starting at exactly the same time. That video went viral and has received millions of views. In this interview, Peter debunks the climate alarmism narrative as a cause of the fires and reveals the corruption and incompetence in our government that shows the truth. They want these fires to burn to advance their alarmist agenda. Peter, welcome to the show. Peter Mac Isaac 01:34 Happy to be here. Will Dove 01:36 Now, you posted a few, just a few weeks ago, a video online showing forest fires in Quebec, all starting exactly the same time. It's had millions and millions of views now. And we were just discussing that before the interview, and you came up with what seems to me an extremely plausible explanation for how that happened. Peter Mac Isaac 01:56 Well, because my background is, I'm a certified forest fire investigator. all I ever deal with is evidence. I try not to deal with speculation. So I was fascinated by what I saw in the video. And I actually ran the data that I viewed, I've watched that video which accident... which, by the way, nobody expected that to get caught on satellite. That was somebody else who said nobody actually knew he was doing that filming. And so, surprise, surprise, somebody had all those fires starting actually, almost at the exact same time, some of them hundreds of kilometers apart. So I went over that data with some other forest fire investigators, guys that I know. And we all came to the same conclusion when we looked at that. So, statistically, we went back, and and not statistically but when we looked at the hard data, what we found was that there was not enough lightning in the area to potentially do any of that. And if they did, it would have been impossible to all ignite at the same time, sometimes lightning strikes, they'll go down into the ground, smolder in the ground and pop up a few days later. But there was no weather pattern that had gone through that could have possibly done that, given the timing of the fires, the quantity of the fires, and the spacing on it. Statistically, it's not just improbable, it's impossible. So the only logical conclusion that we could come to, after viewing that video, I mean numbers, a lot of different times, and after our discussions, that looked like a well-coordinated arson attack. And so we said, Okay, who could have possibly done it? So there's a couple of other different theories and some data, we had a look at. [unintelligible] Is it a radical group that did it? What technology could have been used? Who would have done it and for what, you know, whoever did it, what would be the, what would be the basis for them to want a lot, want a large series of forest fires. So we've come up with a couple of different sets of data. One is the military has technology with timers that they can place anywhere in the forest. And they can be, they can be set off from any distance, just an electrical time, not not a timer, but that can be set off with a cell phone signal. Those things are done, that technology exists. There's other highly advanced technology. But this is not rocket science. If you want to light a fire in an area, you could go and plant these things in an area. And it could be a month later, when all the, you know, all the conditions are ideal. And all you have to do is hit something on a cell phone or some kind of electric unit. And you've got 13, 14, 15 fires all started at the exact same time. So then we looked at the wind direction in the wind direction, the timing, the clear skies, the wind direction was blowing down into New York. And all that smoke from those fires went down and created an international incident. Three weeks prior to one of the largest tax, world largest tax burdens being shoved down the throats of Canadians in Canadian history. Down here in Nova Scotia, we get an additional, we get an additional carbon tax I think was 13 or 15 cents a litre and then in a couple of days, we got another four or five cent tax on it. High test down here right now I think is 1.97 a litre. The prices are insane. People can't afford to drive. But when we looked at that, we said okay, if something was that coordinated, is it, is it a radical environmental group that did it, in order to push, and if so, what agenda would they be pushing? Well, the number one agenda across the world right now pushing this lunacy is the climate change agenda. And what a better thing to do than to fill New York with smoke, and have those people all in an uproar saying something has to be done. So after those fires got ignited in Quebec, the House of Commons was saturated with people standing up from the liberal party saying something has to be done, money has to be spent, it would appear, looking at what we call the preponderance of evidence that the fires were ignited through an act of arson, a well coordinated arson attack. And that attack was designed to help push a climate change narrative. Because, one of the things that maybe a lot of your viewers don't know, and a lot of people aren't either old enough to remember or aren't aware of this, but back in 1974, Justin Trudeau's father used the RCMP. I think their officers name I added on my computer, his name was, I think, was Roberts Robertson. He was arrested in 1974, for organizing a bombing on Canadian soil that allowed the government to give itself more authority to help quell the FLQ crisis that was going on in Canada at the time. So the federal Liberal Party has already proven through, through using the RCMP, that it's willing to launch a false flag operation on Canadian soil to push their own agenda. And like father, like son, I mean, we're just extrapolating data here. So we said, okay, is Justin Trudeau capable of doing something like this? Well, I'm not sure he's smart enough to be able to coordinate anything. I mean, I'm just calling it like I see it. And then we have to look who's our environment, our environment minister. And Minister Guilbeault, he's already a convicted criminal, and he's already proven that he's willing to break the law to push an environmental agenda. You know, by the, by the way, I have no idea how we get selected after being convicted of doing that. But the federal government, the federal Liberal Party, has already proven that they'll run false flags in Canada. I mean, that's, that's historical record, that's not me speculating. So I look at these fires that get ignited, you know, three to four weeks prior to the big one of the biggest tax increases in Canadian history. And it's all based on on, you know, climate change. Well, I can tell you straight up, those fires are not a result of climate change. That's nonsense. All you have to do is you can go and look on the record. Every day forest fire conditions are posted in every province, across Canada. And they'll tell you what the fuel conditions are and the fuel load. For example, down here in Nova Scotia, when we had our fires, we had the largest fire in Nova Scotia history, I think it was 225 or maybe 250 square kilometers, which is really big for for Nova Scotia. It's not big for out west, it's not big for in the north, you know, up north. But down here in Nova Scotia, it's a big deal. And that turned out that that fire was manmade, that was an arson fire. Well, arson is not caused by climate change. Arson is caused by criminals pushing an agenda. And then our province didn't take every step that they should have taken to make sure those fires were put out. And the fires grew to the size that they did. Because we also had another major fire on the outskirts of Halifax, actually, my own home turf was threatened, and that's why I got involved in this whole process. And because beginning of 2012, the province started cutting all of our, all of our firefighting mechanisms that had worked and been proven to work. For example, they cut, they got rid of our Helitack crew. Helitack crews, and they, matter of fact, I believe the Government of Alberta cut a lot of their Helitack crews. Those are the guys that when a fire tower spots smoke, they send in a team of experts on helicopters that they land before any ground crews can land and they're there with pumps set up and water on the fire and do what they can to try to keep those fires as small as possible. In Nova Scotia, here a lot of our fires didn't make it bigger than 10 acres The reason because our province is cut up and we had fire towers. And we had we had that Helitack crew. Beginning in 2012, our Helitack crew was disbanded. Our, our fire tower systems were all abandoned; they're all taken down now. We changed our, our... we had a fire permit system, I don't know what they have in Alberta, but you used to have to come into the office. talk to. talk to technical staff. And 50% of the time we talk you out of burning. And people would look at the permit, not realize the hazards, even that on the permit. People are, people are people, they tend not to read directions. And we used to get a lot of fires that would escape on people that actually had permits, so they couldn't be charged. But we would talk them out of that and that system's gone down. They just go online now and they go, yeah, you can burn today, and away you go, and, and, you know, these fires in Nova Scotia probably cost us right now, I think, I think thr dollar toll's between $250-$300 million. Will Dove 10:28 So, Peter, let's let's, let's talk about some numbers here. Because you were a game warden, you were a fire investigator. And we have, you know, I know, my viewers know, the whole climate alarmism narrative is total bog, it makes absolutely no sense. Well, even if the earth was getting warmer, which the data says it's not, you still need a source of ignition to start a fire. Will Dove 10:49 Raising the temperature is not going to make a difference. So you've already just talked about these people who will know the permit process is basically just put online, you've got people where they used to came, come and talk to a game warden or or park officer who would say to them, "Look, this isn't a good idea." Now they can go and do that. But we've got, you know, there's numbers here that don't make any sense. And I know that you know, the numbers better than I do. I'm gonna quote the one that I do know. And that is, that in Nova in on Vancouver Island, on average, they have two forest fires per year. As of three weeks ago, when I was reporting on this, that 38. You want that video of all of those fires starting at exactly the same time. And we need a source of ignition. And it's not thunderstorms, because those haven't been any more common than they have in previous years. And so what I'm framing here is, what are the numbers we're looking at this year for forest fires, keeping in mind, there has to be a source of ignition. And it's not, it's not the thunderstorms that are doing it? Peter Mac Isaac 10:49 Right Peter Mac Isaac 11:47 Well, I will tell you this, okay, cereda, up north with up in the Northwest Territories, 90% of their fires were started by lightning. But a lot of those fires would smolder underground. So they have fires down there that burn on an annual basis never get put out. They'll they'll go down and burn it burn into the peat. Same thing in Ontario where I would when I went to university out there, they'd have fires and they smoulder underground. And when the snow came, they smoulder up, and when the when the spring came, they pop back up again. But the fire tower system always monitored them. They knew where the smokes come up. I don't know what's left of the fire tower system. My understanding in Alberta that that they they shut down a lot of the towers, and they made major cuts to their budget over the last number of years. The last time I was out there, I think I was on a 50,000 acre fire up north of Fort Mac. And at the time they had a well oiled machine. But even back then I think that was 2006 or 2008 when I was last out there, there was they they had a lot of newbies that were coming in. And I was looking at the same thing with the lack of meritocracy starting there, that I see down here in Nova Scotia, like people in charge that literally aren't qualified to be shaking hands of Walmart, in their chairs, a multimillion dollar budgets looking after fires. And they move up through the ranks through the systems now based on boxes they tick and not by their performance on the job. And it's catastrophic. And it's happening not just here, it's happening all every country that it's bought into this ESG nonsense which by the way, all companies are being forced to have diversity and inclusion. I'm all for helping people that need help, I'm not, I'm not for diversity and inclusion where you exclude the people who are best qualified. For example, down in Nova Scotia right now you can be the most qualified person out of, out of a roster of 10. And I can tell you right now, if you're a straight white man, the odds of you getting that job down here are virtually almost zero. On the way the provincial new hiring system and the federal hiring system, if I go in tomorrow, you look at that guy, for example, up in Ontario where the teacher wears big prosthetic breasts and you can't get rid of the guy. And you can't get rid of, you can't get rid of of the woke once they get into a system. They're like a virus. And they somehow work their way up to the top. And it's been my experience over my entire working career that if you're incompetent, you will not surround yourself with highly competent people because they make you look bad. And they expose your weaknesses and they expose your incompetence. And so what happens is that the upper echelons, I'm watching this all across Canada, all across the US, I'm watching it happen in Europe. One place, I don't seem to see it happen too much is in Russia. I'll throw that up to you. Over there you ... There's none of this nonsense going on. Right. So what happens is, is right now we've got people in in our police force, or like the RCMP are done. I mean, they were, they were a once great force. They're they're woke to the point now where they're ineffective. Our court system's broke. Even when you catch people committing arson or other crimes now in Canada, they're taking a walk. And I want your, I want your viewers to understand how badly the court system is broken because most people don't know this, and I've spent a lot of time inside the court system. It's that even if even if, you know, you catch somebody doing something, and it's not politically correct, a crown prosecutor doesn't want to take the case, if it's going against the government narratives, because all crown prosecutors want to become appointed to a judge, that's where you get promoted to. And then judges don't want to do any cases that make a government look particularly bad if they have any aspirations to move ahead in their career. Because the government appoints judges to Supreme Court judges, and the appointment process is broken, it doesn't work. And what you end up with is a bunch of people that are woke, who got themselves up through the system now, and they're calling all the shots. And people wonder, Why can't things get done? You know, on another, I don't want to go off on a tangent, but you have to ask yourself, why is Justin Trudeau not jailed? Will Dove 15:53 That's something my viewers gonna ask all the time. So talking about these forest fires, and there has been an increase, there's been an increase in the numbers of them. So what's your concluding here, we've already determined some of them are happening as a result of arson, but it's quite likely a lot of them are happening as a result of incompetence, because people are not being put in their positions on merit. They're being put into their positions because they check off a box, and they're grossly incompetent. Peter Mac Isaac 16:21 Meritocracy is completely broken in Canada, I can walk into any industry, I can walk into any government agency, our healthcare system in Nova Scotia has completely broken, great people on the ground, but people in management at virtually all managerial levels, we could cut the managerial staff in Nova Scotia's healthcare by 50%. And 50% of the one of the best, it's disastrous, and it's not the people on the ground. As the same thing, actually, over in the RCMP force, a lot of it aren't the people on the ground, but the people that worked away to upper level management and the court system. And same thing of politics, if you don't push a woke agenda, you can't you can't get elected anymore, it's gonna it's not gonna happen. Because party politics, push woke agendas, and later we'll get a chance to talk about that. But the issue with fires is we have arson. And we have incompetence, we have long term reduction in expenditures, on on fighting forest fires, because for example, the best way to put this is like you pay insurance on your house. Insurance is exact same as putting money into force firefighting budget, you hope you don't need it. But the better prepared you are and the better policy you are protects you in the event, something going on at your home, you're going to be taken care of. Well, virtually every province in in Canada has reduced the poorest fire fighting systems or budgets, starting back as early as maybe even 2008. And nobody's really adding to it. Now there's there was a few additions made, I believe in BC, but they're still woefully underfunded. The problem is, is when incompetent leadership and incompetent politicians want to start cutting, cutting money out of budgets, they say, well, last year, everything worked so well, we didn't have hardly any fires, well, let's instead of that $50 million budget, why don't we cut 25, and we can put it in some nonsense social proj- project over here. And once it's gone, some of the structures or things that was like our fire tower system in Nova Scotia, once they're gone, and they weren't maintained, that they're called back to now cost prohibitive to put back up again. So it's a cascading series of bad decisions by by incompetent people. And then you've got this complete, you know, you've got a complete lack of common sense when it comes to the narrative that's being pushed in regards to climate change. And if I'm a climate change activist, after 911, the federal fire service in the United States, the most effective form of terrorism in North America is forest fires. You can have a monkey trained to start forest fires, that you don't have to be a specialty, you don't have to carry firearms. Anybody can have a pack of Madison cigarettes, anybody can go set a fire. And they warned us that this would start happening down in the future. And it could if it's not an act of terrorism, if you're lighting these fires, and you're part of any group or or you're inside the government to own it, like I said, you should end up doing some pretty serious harm done here. I don't mean I don't mean you know, where you're under house arrest for a year. These are the type of things that people should be going to jail for 10 to 20 years. Will Dove 19:37 Yes. Let's get back to the corruption in just a minute. But you were talking because it's very relevant to what you were just talking about a minute ago. What with the whole system going woke, the meritocracy has gone down the toilet, with these forest fires going on in Nova Scotia, you with all of your experience, you put together a crack team of advisers, offered their help to the government for free, but there was a problem. Peter Mac Isaac 20:02 No, what what we did is we knew that the government was going to bring people in from outside of the province. And so I went to the team and I said, Guys, look, I'm looking for a 30-day commitment. Right? And if we go back, because that's a big commitment to go in and do it, I said, we're looking for our old wages and our expense. Will Dove 20:20 Okay, I said something, but not for free. But basically, you know, very reasonable fee. Peter Mac Isaac 20:25 Yeah. And all they would have had to do was say, and by the way, we said we could be on site within four hours. I was packed, ready to go, man, I had all the gear [unintelligible] ready to go. And they said, Pete, we're not sticking our neck out to you do this, because the government is bad for retaliating against people that go against [unintelligible]. I don't care. I mean, I have a skill set, people tend to leave me alone. The reality of this, is that I'm not afraid. So when I started making these calls, I sent correspondence. And I know the Premier, I know Tim Hughes. I sent correspondence directly to him, I spent... sent correspondence directly to the Minister of Natural Resources, who, by the way, used to be a fire chief. And we said, look, we're here to help. We're not frontline guys. We're, we want to insert ourselves into the Incident Command System, which runs like a military operation. And for every guy is on the front line on a nozzle, there's, let's say, at least four guys behind the scenes coordinating, making things happen. And that's where we were specialists in. We could have been, you know, part part of an overhead team management, planning, finances, a whole bunch of things that need to happen to make a fire go out. And that's per six-man team, we had close to two, roughly around 200 years force firefighting experience between us, I could have put together probably another five or 6 teams that they said, Pete, can you put together more on short, and it could all it could all be done within three to four hours. All it took was political will and someone say get this done. And while I was making phone calls, over three to four days trying to they weren't responding back to me, I was talking to action to senior director at warfare control. And, you know, he was on the phone saying thanks, no, thanks. We don't have something set up to take in. And we don't watch it. But you know, if you give us a few names, put your name on the list down the road, maybe we'll call you. Well, while that conversation was going on, our premier was going on talk show radio, and telling people that while their homes are burning down here, just outside of Halifax, like you know, a high end subdivision, you know, 750,000 million dollar homes, telling them that we're doing everything we can, we're requesting help, we've got people coming in from South Africa, we're requesting help from the United States and from out west. Well, what he wasn't telling people was our forest region down here, it's what's called the Acadia Forest Region. It's a different forest type than you guys have a West, mostly you guys have, once you get up in the mountains, you're into sub-alpine and that but a lot of that still in your upper northern area, you're in the boreal forest. And the guys who fight in the boreal forest, fighting fires fighting fire, but we have completely different fuel types down here, we've got winds that's virtually unpredictable down here, because we're surrounded by water, and we have constant wind to deal with. We never have calm days down. So the guys that they were shipping in and pay, they had to pay their flights to travel in, paid off, down and back. So when we offer work just said, Look, just just give us what used to pay for us, we'll come back to work from cover us with workman's comp, and and we'll be there we can be there within four hours, eight hours at the least. And we'll go anywhere he wants to do anything you want us to do. And they said, Thank you, but no thanks. While homes were literally burning to the ground. And we had a go-bag packed at the house because my wife and I were waiting to be evacuated from where I live. Will Dove 23:37 And can you conclude anything from that? And everything we've discussed now, Peter, the incompetence, the arson, the fact that you offered all this expert advice at a fraction of the cost of what they were actually doing. And they didn't want it. Can you conclude anything other than that they want these fires to burn. Peter Mac Isaac 23:50 [unintelligible] Here's the quandary that I find myself in, okay. Because of my background, you have to rely on your gut when you look at evidence. And then what you do is you try to put puzzle pieces together and you gather what's called a preponderance of the evidence that points in a direction. The direction that this is pointing in is that Halifax Regional Municipality changed the rules a few years back. People over in the province were highly incompetent didn't allow to take over what happened. People inside government I don't know if it was incompetence, incompetence, stupidity, and budget cuts. I'd like to think that the evidence is pointing for what I'm looking now, at worldwide is that it there's something bigger here because what the rest of Canada doesn't realize, and North America doesn't realize, Nova Scotia experienced Canada's first climate lockdown. Because when these fires started on, I think it was on a, on the weekend and burned through the week, these fires didn't get put out as a result of what the fire crews did. We had heavy rain that came and stayed for the next three to four weeks. As a matter of fact, in the last three months, we had over 560 mils rain here in Nova Scotia, which is like almost six months worth of rain. And so you can't really get a fire going down here. Now the blue bow torch tell you the truth. But the reality, the reality of it is a knee jerk reaction from our premier and the idiots, I mean, the in-office that we have making decisions at upper level management said, we need to put a travel ban on in Nova Scotia. First climate, major climate lockdown in North America, trouble though, run by somebody who's connected to BlackRock and Vanguard. And because people were terrified at the time that their homes were going to be burned down. And I'm sure a lot of your viewers already realize this when people are afraid you can literally get them to do anything. It was the number one tool that the Nazis used to to get the German population to go along with what they did during World War II. Once people are afraid you can get them to do anything. We just watched what happened with COVID. You know, what I thought were reasonable people basically lost their minds, were still driving around in 30-degree temperatures alone in the car wearing masks, because they're afraid. And once you're afraid you can be manipulated. And while these fires were going on, the test balloon went up and said, Okay, we'd locked everybody down. You couldn't go in the woods. It shut down mining operations, surveying operations, forestry operations, road construction, anything that was going on in woodlands and Nova Scotia got shut down. It was supposed to be for a full four weeks. Well, when I worked for natural resources, we had a few lock downs. But they would last for two or three days. And you know, they were restricted travel ban, you could travel with permits and stuff. And the public outcry. They had this ban on while it was I mean, we were having Bedford here, we're at where I'm at, we had like one on 100 year flood. We got 200 And I think at a 24 hour period, we got 270 Mills rain, it was crazy. And they still kept the state of emergency on for forest fires. Because the trial balloon got floated, can we get people to stay at home, stay out of the you weren't allowed to go in a park and walk on a paved paved trail? I mean, you couldn't go anywhere where there was trees, man, I mean, they shot it down. And, you know, even down on Cape Breton Island on the northern end of Nova Scotia, they didn't have the same weather conditions at all. And the way our emergency legislation is set up is supposed to be attained in a tight area. Well, they didn't do that they did a province wide. And nobody complained. And after a couple of weeks, people said, Okay, this is getting to be a little lunacy here. Why do we have a state of emergency? I won't. It's been raining for the last two weeks. Like literally, you couldn't have got a fire going with napalm, you couldn't have dumped diesel on a pile of wood, the diesel would have burnt off and the wood wouldn't catch fire. And we still had a state of emergency travel ban. And finally, they said well, okay, so some businesses, they can get permits and go back to doing things. But the economic impacts made by people who aren't qualified to do anything is scary. Right, and no holding them to tax. So another solution, we'll talk about that later. But But yeah, that points to me. If the fire hadn't grown, if these fires hadn't grown, at the pace they did, and what the, what happened, and how long it even took us to get people here, even when the people came from, you know, the, the outside firefighters, they didn't land here to live with rain. And on Friday, that at the end of the week, those guys are here to do mop up and stuff. But when the fires were going, you know, early in the week, and homes were burning down and people were terrified. They had experts ready to go and help. And they flat out turned them down. So you have to ask what was, is there a bigger picture? And I got a lot of people what the government would never do that to us. Well, I've already proved what, you know what Trudeau did, they'll do whatever they have to to push a narrative. Yeah, they can't be trusted. I will tell you this, I was inside government for 29 years. For 29 years, I watched the government lied to the public virtually every single day of my career. And some of it wasn't just outright lies, it would be overt lies, we tell you two thirds of the story, but not the important other 1/3 that made it all make sense. And if if we wanted information to come out, it had to go through a spin doctor in in Halifax. And then everything was touched up. And you know, at the end of it, people be going Okay, I see why they did that. And they go no, you just been lied to you just been played you could play for dummies. And my old my old career, they did it and I said finally when I get out. I said I'm going to try to fix this. That's when I went to try to get involved in politics. And then I realized once I was inside the party system, that the party system is broken beyond repair. And everything that you've heard about politics is worse than what you've been told. [unintelligible] party that got me kicked out of the party. Will Dove 30:03 Let's get back to the corruption because, you know, we did, you've just given us a real good picture what's going on in Nova Scotia. Just this morning, as I was preparing for this interview, what came across my desk was reports from BC with the forest fires there. And I've gotten this now from several sources, where people are being kept out of the area, even if they live there. They're not allowed to go into their homes. Firefighters are not doing anything. They're letting the fires burn. And when the people try to go in, the RCMP stops them. I watched a video on this that was posted on BitChute, I think it was just earlier today or it was yesterday, where they're asking the RCMP officers why can't we go in we live there. And the two excuses that were given, one was just plain old I'm following my orders, they said nobody goes in. But the other one, to my mind made no sense whatsoever, he said, well, there's looting going on in the area. Now, maybe you can speak to this because you are an expert in forest fires. But what strikes me is awfully odd about that is if there's looting going on in the area, wouldn't you want the homeowners in their homes, so that they can prevent that? Peter Mac Isaac 31:09 Well, there's a couple of issues there. Number one, once an area is burnt over, it can't burn again People don't realize that if an area has been burned, you should be able to go into your property. It's your property. If the trees are burnt out, burnt material can't burn twice. That that's a basic tenet for forest fire. There's no reason not to let a person into their home, into their own property. Same thing happened down here in Nova Scotia; people weren't allowed into their own property. I mean, for me, it was weeks before people could even go back in and the updates were the the comms were such a disaster, people couldn't find basically anything for a long time. It was just because in a crisis, good leadership rises to the top, and all the weak idiots that have been put in places, that all gets exposed. And so what happens I watched one of those videos when people were bringing, out west where people were bringing food in to these people and fuel and stuff. And you know, you've got a man and he's standing there saying I'm just following orders. Right? And people go well, this is nonsense, I need to I got a truckload of stuff to take across this bridge to deliver to people and they won't let it go in. So if you got to protect your own property from looters, right, out west, in in rural Canada, how do people normally protect a property. They normally protect their property, a lot of people because they live in rural areas, have firearms. And I can tell you right now, the government does not want a story that said I used a firearm to keep people from looting my property, because that's a good firearm story. The government does not want any type of story to make its way into the mainstream, where someone used a firearm to protect what was theirs legally, by the way is legal to do that, in order to protect themselves or their property. So there's there it's it's way more complicated than most people realize, everything that makes politicians look, look bad, that look bad, or destroy a narrative, they've got people that just take orders and can't question. You got to remember that that 80%, or maybe it is even 90% of RCMP, all got jabbed, they didn't ask questions. You know, look in the military, how many people refuse to get jabs it was only like four or 500. And now the courts just rule that those guys. All the generals were advised by legal staff that their orders were illegal. The generals took that information to the PMO. And Justin Trudeau said, We don't care if it's a legal order, you'll either follow it or you're getting the boot, not one of them, not one of them, had the backbone required to stand up and stand in front of a camera and say, I've been ordered to give illegal orders to my men, and I will not do it. I will resign today. Not one of them had the courage to do it. And it's just my dad was in the military, Observer Corps. I grew up on military bases as a kid. I was in Germany for four years as a kid within the military. My wife's dad was on the very first landing craft on Juno Beach on D Day. He was he was in corps of engineers. Those men know what happens when corruption permeates into government. They've seen what happens. I'm watching it happen in Canada right now. And nobody's standing up to it. I shouldn't say that. We had a lot of people starting to stand up a man we need a lot more. By the way, the numbers required are only 3%. Once three of the, 3% of the population stands up and says, We're not taking this anymore. This is not going to continue to happen. The rest of the pop... the rest of the population will eventually come on board. And most people don't realize how much power they have. All you have, ever have to do is say I'm not complying, and just not comply. So the level of corruption like I say the trial balloon in Nova Scotia was run for climate lockdowns. And if you think this is the first one, you just hang on, buddy, because we're gonna get a whole bunch more of them and nobody pushed back. Peter Mac Isaac 34:56 So Peter, Peter Mac Isaac 34:59 Will, Will Dove 35:00 We've covered a lot in this interview. And this is one of those cases where I'm a little out of my own depth, because obviously, I don't have your experience. And so sometimes I don't know the right questions to ask. And so I'd like to close out this interview, I'd like to invite you to share any final thoughts you have with our viewers in regards to everything we've talked about. Peter Mac Isaac 35:21 So when I, when I was working in my career, I just put my head down, dammit did my job figuring out what some of this stuff will go away on its own. And my dad was a military guy didn't really believe the government would lie, too. But I learned through my career that the government's gonna lie to you every single day. And if you've got children, you're married, and you've got anyone else that that relies on you in this lifetime, it is incumbent on you to question everything. And I mean, I don't mean just simple things. I mean, everything that you're being told. The news, for example, down here, the news has been hijacked. Bill C 18. I mean, the level of anybody that was speaking out is being censored. After I did that video, my Twitter account was taken down three days later. I'm constantly being attacked, CSIS did an investigation on me when I, when I opened criminal complaints against Justin Trudeau. It doesn't matter. There's nothing they can do to you that's worse than leaving this mess to our kids and our grandchildren. You've got to stand up. You've got to grow backbone. You have to go look yourself in the mirror. I mean, I don't know how a lot of people look themselves in the mirror, they say, oh, you know, there's nothing I can do. Well, there's a whole lot you can do. All you got to do is open your mouth. I was just one guy sitting in a basement. Right? And now we gotta move [unintelligible] we're going to fix some of this mess down here in Nova Scotia. You have to question everything. And then when when you're told to do things and say, Well, you know, it's for the, for the greater good. If you hear the term the greater good, that's a communist phrase, right? That came from communist China, communist Russia. You mean for the, when you mean for the greater good, if someone's asking you to do something, learn to think critically. I mean, you've got to ask questions. And then you have to just dig down deep and say if I don't fix this stuff, who's going to Will Dove 37:04 Well said. Thank you, Peter, for giving us your time for this interview, and for sharing the benefit of your knowledge with our viewers. Peter Mac Isaac 37:10 Thanks very much. I really do appreciate it.