(0:00 - 0:25) Canada is the MAiD capital of the world. Educated estimates say that since medically assisted suicide was made legal in 2016, MAiD doctors in this country have now killed over 60,000 people. People who go to hospitals for treatment are regularly offered MAiD as an option, but in reality it is pushed on them and they are pressured to accept it. (0:26 - 0:46) In 2027, Track 2 for MAiD will become law. Track 2 will allow MAiD for mental illnesses, people who do not have a medical issue and for whom death is definitely not imminent, up to and including simple depression. And the legislation has already been passed. (0:47 - 2:17) Trudeau simply put a hold on implementing it, as he knew it would affect his party's chances in the next election. But those are just the parts they're telling you about. They also want to bring in MAiD for our children. They call them mature minors, but there is no legal minimum age. Two years ago, the president of the Quebec College of Physicians and Surgeons was recording, talking openly about their plans for this, and you will see that clip in this interview. Assisted suicide for our kids and parents will have no say. It will be done on the opinion of a single doctor. But it gets worse. They also want it for babies, essentially erasing the line for abortion between babies still in the those who have been born. If you don't believe me, once again, Dr. Louis Roy, the president of CMQ, can be seen openly discussing this in the clip you will see in this interview. Angelina Ireland of the Delta Hospice Society has been working hard to raise awareness for this, and to provide people with a sanctuary where they can receive palliative care, free from the threat of being killed by their doctor. She joins me today to explain what is really behind this agenda, and just how cheap human life will become in our country if we don't put a stop to this. (2:27 - 2:55) Angelina, welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me, Will. And you and I have done a number of these interviews now talking about MAiD, and you know, we both know the agenda, where they're heading with this, and we'll discuss this in this interview, but as much as I have too been keeping my finger on the pulse of this, I was shocked when this morning you sent me a short clip from an online meeting of the Quebec College of Physicians and Surgeons, the CMQ, from two years ago, and that's very important, folks. (2:55 - 8:17) Note this is from two years ago. Dr. Louis Roy, who I know was the president at the time, I don't know if he still is, I found it very interesting when I went to the CMQ website, while parts of it are only available in French, and I speak very little French, I could not find the board of directors. They don't seem to want us to know who they are. But anyways, folks, we're going to run that short, very short video for you right now. Third, minors from 14 to 7 years of age and nearly 18, the committee recommends, and the board of directors supports as well, that these minors could, with their tutors or parental parent, could make a request for a maid based on the level of persistent and intolerable suffering that they may experience and become unmanageable and senseless. The same for babies from 0 to 1 years of age who are born with severe deformations, very grave and severe syndromes, medical syndromes, whose life expectancy and level of suffering are such that it would make sense to ensure that they do not suffer, given that their possibility of surviving is basically nil. And this is something that has been used in the Netherlands as an argument, and we could explore that option. Finally, the committee addressed the issue of elders who are feeling, you know, tired of being alive, sometimes what we in geriatric care call, you know, sliding into existential suffering or emptiness, who are very fragile, whose physical abilities are so debilitated that the very fact that they're still alive becomes a real strain on them. So we feel that this is a topic that's a sensitive one, of course. People in general aren't quite sure how to approach this. We don't have a clear answer for these cases, but we would like to continue researching this with specialists and with Canadians in general, to be able to think when for such people who are simply extremely frail and tired of being babies, children 0 to 4 and up, I don't even know where to start. So I'm going to let you. Well, Canada is about to cross the Rubicon, and we must do everything that we can so that doesn't happen. The agenda has started years ago, and I'll call it Empire Made. Empire Made is always about conquest. And this is, in the words of Dr. Georges L'Espérance, who's a neurosurgeon and president of the Right to Die with Dignity Quebec, mature minors is the next battle. And so when you look into this, you can see that since 2018, they've been plotting to figure out how to kill our children. And I'm going to bring your attention to this report called The State of Knowledge on Medical Assistance in Dying for Mature Minors. Here it is, 200 pages. Now, why would you need an expert panel working group on Made for Mature Minors? What would be the point of that? And so when you go through this publication, it becomes very evident that the strategy is to get the experts, to get the experts on board so that parents and the general public and anybody with a inkling of conscience won't be able to speak against it. So I'm going through this thing, and there's like six pages, six pages of experts that range from neurosurgeons to doctors to lawyers to professors to dentists and psychiatrists, put your name on this, right? Just to tell us that in fact, the upshot of it all is that mature minors, there is really no age to maturity. Not only that, but it's only the professionals and the experts who can decide when someone is a mature minor. And that mature minors should have the right to decide to have made. Well, let's call it what it is, the right to suicide. (8:18 - 9:39) Well, the right to be killed by the state. Right. Yes. As I said, I've been doing my own, keeping my finger on the pulse of this. So what they're talking about here is a system whereby the parent has no say. All they need is a doctor to say, this is a mature minor and we're going to kill them. And we had this discussion a couple of years ago, I think the very first time I interviewed you, because we both saw where this was going. And my fear at the time, and it's looking like they're trying to make this happen, is this would get to the point where the first thing a parent is going to know about this is they're going to get a call from the hospital saying, come pick up the body. And that would only be a courtesy, to be honest. Yeah. You know, listen, parental rights in Canada have been destroyed and they have been destroyed with the Trojan horse of gender ideology. We have seen how mature minors, in conjunction with their doctors, can decide to transition at the age of 12. And any parent that stands in the way of that can go to prison. In fact, parents have gone to prison in this country. Now, everything has been anonymized, but we'll look at the case of AB versus CD, where that father objected to his child, who was born a girl, transitioning medically. (9:40 - 10:18) And that father, who was told to shut up, who was gagged, everything anonymized. The doctors anonymized, the child anonymized, the parents anonymized. Everything put under a gag order and sealed. When that father refused to be quiet, he ended up with a six-month prison sentence and he went to jail. Then came in Bill C-4, I believe it was, where the federal government, under the auspices of conversion therapy, basically legislated it. You'll go to jail if you stand in the way of the doctor and the child determining what the state policy is going to be. (10:19 - 10:37) So, you know, that ship has sailed. Parental rights in Canada have been decimated, in my opinion, but this is just a piece of the puzzle, because then who is going to protect the children? It can't be the parents. They won't be allowed to protect their children. (10:39 - 11:38) And as you say, this is, you're absolutely right, this is completely linked to the transgender narrative. And I'm going to throw out a little statistic here that most people don't know, but I have this directly from Dr. Miriam Grossman, who appeared in the documentary What Is A Woman?, and I interviewed her not long ago, and her entire practice now is helping families deal with kids who've decided they're trans. And it's very important to note that she's been practicing for about 30 years. Up until 20 years ago, she had never seen a single case of gender dysphoria. It did not exist. Well, it shouldn't say it didn't exist. To be accurate, to quote Dr. Grossman, it was 1 in 50,000 people who had genuine gender dysphoria. Now it is her entire practice. And so I want to link that to this statistic that I got from her, because the trans pro-activists are fond of saying, well, kids aren't allowed to transition, have a 16 times higher suicide rate. (11:38 - 12:25) That is an outright lie. The actual data is completely the opposite. Those who transition as teenagers have a 19 times higher suicide rate than kids who don't. And so they brainwash them with this crap. They go through this procedure, they realize what they've done to themselves, that it is not reversible, that they're now sterile, that they look kind of like Frankenstein's monster, and obviously we're not going to put up any naked pictures of people who've transitioned, but go look it up. It does not look normal at all. And then they reach this point of despair. Oh, well, we'll kill you now. And that's where it all comes together, right? That's where the destruction of parental rights is so concerning when it comes to euthanasia and our children. (12:26 - 14:34) So we know that the law is not going to protect the children because they've already agreed in court cases that children can decide their own medical treatment. And they don't want to call them children. They want to steal the language and call them mature minors. Although, of course, nobody really knows. There's no age limit. There's no definition for this. And as you folks saw in that clip of Dr. Roy, 4 to 18 is the category that they're now wanting to classify as mature minors. Yes. And we're even going to get a little bit even more sophisticated with our language because mature minors, we are told, is a spectrum. And it's rather than being binary. So mature minors is a spectrum and it's not binary. So we don't even know what we're even talking about now. We've just got a bunch of mumbo jumbo that we're just not allowed to say child. We're not allowed to say children. And it becomes all confused and perfect for them. So now we don't even know what we're talking about because everybody is so confused, which plays right into their heads. Yes. And of course, that too is intentional, just as the trans movement is to steal from people their identity. Because if you have no identity, you have no foundation on which to judge right from wrong, true from false. There isn't one. And so it becomes whatever, as to paraphrase what you were saying earlier, whatever the state says it is. Yes. And so we know that the state has been actually very involved in this question. So we had this huge study that came in 2018, but then we had a special joint committee on medical assistance in dying. So special joint, meaning members of the House and members of the Senate got together and they heard testimony about, among other things, mature minors mating our children. And that's where that testimony from this fellow, Mr. Roy, came from. That's what he told the government. (14:36 - 15:20) And so we also found other testimony, very interesting testimony out of this joint committee from another professor, professor of course, and this one, a division of neurology, department of medicine, faculty of graduate study, Dalhousie University. Well, that doesn't just blow your mind and intimidate you. What did this guy say? A Dr. Gordon Gubitz. He's saying he totally agrees that mature minors, there's really no age. It depends how mature they are as considered by the doctor. And then he goes on to say, guys, this is very outspoken, but nice for us because we can see what they really think. (15:20 - 20:16) Oh, you need to go for the low hanging fruit first. I'm sorry, I need to ask, is that a direct quote? Yes. Yes, it is. There's the transcript. Here's the transcript. I'm going to send it to you. Here he talks about, let's go for the low hanging fruit first. So now our children are just inanimate objects like fruit, right? This is how we do it. So basically you go after the terminally ill kids first and you get people used to the idea of killing children. And then just like we did with the rest of the made population that we're euthanizing, it's, you use like a stepped approach, a stepped approach. In other words, you open it up for the rest of the children who aren't terminal. Yeah. Direct quote. That's what he thinks. Neurological professor and every other expert that they brought in to this joint committee agrees that mature minor is whoever the doctor says it is. That's across the board. Okay. Yes. And when you look at the report, the report by the special joint committee on a medical assistance in dying, they have recommendations. Recommendations that they released in February of 2023, that's two years ago. First recommendations, 14, recommendation 15, 16, 17. Children, we're going to call them mature minors. They should be eligible for made. They go on to say that they should be able to decide by themselves. Parents, parents should not be able to decide for the children. Okay. And at the moment, made can be for those with a foreseeable death. Okay. That's a government policy. This is only a matter of time. I have to interrupt again because you said foreseeable death. Now it used to say imminently foreseeable death. Have they removed that word? Yes. Yes. Okay. They have. All of us have a foreseeable death, Angelina. Yes. We're all going to die. I had this horrible vision of where they're going with this. What they want to do is desensitize people to this idea so much that eventually there will be made walk-in clinics where anybody, even mature minors, can walk in off the street and be dead half an hour later. Yes. But you know, this was in 2023. Okay. Now you dig a little bit further and the foreseeable death of the children apparently is very acceptable and part of recommendations of the government. Now, I thank Rebel Media for this because they were able to get from a, one of those information, Freedom of Information. They were able to dig up an email and this is an email from 2024, July of 2024, and this just shows the progression that this is truly a fait accompli. We just don't know it yet, but the progression from a foreseeable death to chronic conditions. Now this person, now they've redacted the name of this person, but apparently this person has a platform. Okay. And I might also mention to you that this person is sending an email at two in the morning. I'm not sure who sends emails at two in the morning, unless maybe they had a little bit too much to drink and they're decided they're going to be real bold and to say what they really think. But this person went on to say about the eligibility criteria for MAiD and they're very proud of themselves that now they have a platform and they could have some influence around this. And what they're suggesting here in this email of last year is that 20% of the children with autism should be eligible for MAiD. So now we've gone from terminal to natural death foreseeable death to autistic children here. In fact, and why is that? Because he's quote, just like abortion, some may argue that this undermines the sacredness of life, but also like in abortion, the severely autistic child and the fetus lack self-awareness to be called it killing. And of course, let's tie in the other statistic. (20:17 - 22:24) 50 years ago, autism was about one in 400 and some odd children. The most recent statistic most people know is now it's one in 36, but actually it's not. It's now up to one in 29. So 20% of those have now become targets. Yes, absolutely. I'm not making this stuff up. This is all public. All you have to do is go look for it. People don't know where to look. People don't understand what's coming down the pike that they are bold enough to be plotting this for years to go after the children. And it's just a matter of time before we will be able to do nothing to defend and protect our children. Yes. Now this is all tied to Track 2 MAiD, which when we're going to get into the babies next, good God, but the Track 2 MAiD that wants to make MAiD available to those who are suffering from some kind of mental illness, apparently including depression. And if correct me if I'm wrong, you would know this better than I do. I believe that that legislation is due to pass in the law early 2027. Yeah, it's just a sunset clause. It's already in the law, but that sunset clause where it was going to take effect at a later date. So that date has now been moved a couple of times. It's now moved to a 2027. And a lot of this talk around, it's being connected to that date. A lot of the talk around the mature minors is being connected somehow to that date in the literature publicly. You have to go look for it, but it's there. And we know that they're just trying to find an opportunity. A lot of the information that I'm seeing on the front lines is that this is kind of happening already. (22:25 - 26:07) And it's taking the form of stealth euthanasia. That they're not outright calling it MAiD because apparently that's illegal for 18 years and under. But the idea of stealth euthanasia, of withdrawing medical care, of overdosing, of over-medicating, of withdrawing important and life-sustaining treatment is already happening. And it's widespread, in fact, far more than people know. And here's another piece of information I know. The first drug that's administered and made is midazolam. It paralyzes the person so that, you know, there are claims of it's a peaceful death, but we don't know because that person's paralyzed. For all we know, they're screaming in their heads while they drown in their own fluids because that's what happens. But midazolam was also given widely to COVID patients, elderly COVID patients. And the nurses were directed, because if you give it in the right dosage, and we're going to get into that in a second, folks, if you give it the right dosage, it will calm people down. But discussing with Dr. Trozzi, I discovered that midazolam is very, very short duration, about an hour, that's all you get. And so the nurses were instructed to give it as needed. And yet the manufacturer of midazolam says right on the package, you must be extremely careful with dosage, especially with the elderly. Now we have surprises. It's kind of an odd thing when you look at the UK, because they're gone completely off the rails on with the woke crap. In the past, I looked this up the other day, in the past two years, they have arrested over 24,000 people for online posts. But strangely, we can get good data from the National Health Service in the UK. And from that data, one researcher was able to determine that they killed tens of thousands of elderly people with midazolam. And what is it? It's the first drug given in MAiD. And so you're absolutely right. There's this silent MAiD agenda already, where they're killing people with overdoses, withholding treatment, any way that they can. And of course, they also use rocuronium as a paralytic in the MAiD cocktail, right? So all of these things, of course, are being used off label in huge quantities that basically kill. And so I'm very concerned for our children in Canada. And this is, you know, and when I look at the all of the data together, it seems that there's going to be very few ways that we can protect them without the outright repeal of this legislation, the outright repeal, because what will happen, and this is my prediction, and actually, I think it's more of a promise, is that MAiD will be introduced for mature minors, and it will be introduced immediately into palliative care. And this is where, you know, my heart is, this is where my work is inside of palliative care. As it is currently, we have very few palliative care wards for children, very few palliative care organizations for children. And then you have big players like CAMAP, big players who already have gone out into the medical community to advise and convince doctors that they should be bringing up MAiD as a healthcare option. (26:09 - 26:56) And so, you know, like what their publication here, bringing up MAiD as a healthcare option, okay, going and they have access to every doctor, every nurse, every medical professional in Canada, given access by the government to convince them that it's a healthcare option, that they will get into the palliative care wards as soon as they are legally allowed to. And MAiD, euthanasia will become an overwhelming option for doctors inside pediatric palliative care wards. This is why my organization is calling for sanctuary, healthcare sanctuary, and particularly sanctuary for the children. (27:00 - 27:13) Yes. Now, as if all of that isn't disturbing enough, folks, when you listened to that short clip of Dr. Roy, he mentioned babies. And there's a whole bunch to be unpacked from that. (27:14 - 27:43) I will let you start, Angelina. You know, this is, I got to start, I got to try not to be emotional here because I need to, I need to explain to the people. You take a minute because I'll tell you something. I'm furious, right? This and the change agenda, I don't think there's anything that makes me angrier. And it should, it should make us angry. They're trying to kill our children. (27:46 - 28:05) And they will start with the vulnerable children. They will start with children that were born when the parents decided they didn't want abortion. Something was recognized in utero and they refused to have that pregnancy terminated. (28:05 - 28:22) And I particularly am talking to about children with Down's syndrome. You know, certain parts of this country, you don't see many children with Down's syndrome walking around. Particularly out here on the West Coast, I might say, because they have a particularly screening process where the child is in utero if they have Down's syndrome. (28:24 - 29:12) You know, I've been on to a parent very recently with a child being treated at Toronto Sick Kids Hospital. And the parents are very concerned that life-saving initiatives are being withheld because a little one has Down's syndrome and is very ill. This is where it starts. It starts around the abortion question, aborting the children that they don't consider to be adequate. And it goes from there. So, you know, children that are disabled, children that are, and I'll put it in quotes, disabled, right? Children that are vulnerable, those will be the first ones that go in this eugenics project. (29:14 - 31:06) And, of course, now you have the experts behind it. All the experts have gotten lined up and we have to be very, very aware that either we provide sanctuary or we kill this bill, we kill this legislation, because otherwise there will be no place to hide. There will be no place to protect the children. Yes, it'll reach a point where the only place where you can be safe is to take your children and get out of this country. So I'll tell you something. We are currently trying to get in touch with the Minister of Health in British Columbia because you know what they did to our hospice, right? You know what the BCNDP government did and the Fraser Health Authority, they took our hospice out from under us. They expropriated the $8 million of our facility because we refused to get in lockstep and kill our patients. We are now trying to get in touch with the Minister of Health in British Columbia to allow us to provide sanctuary. We are ready to go. We will open a sanctuary for the dying and perhaps we will open a sanctuary which is pediatric palliative care. But we're not allowed to. We are trying to get the blessing in the moment because we don't dare open something that can be confiscated again. We have sent letters, we have sent emails, phone messages, registered mail to try to get a meeting with the BC Health Minister to allow us to open a sanctuary. We're not even asking them for any money. We're ready to go. We could do this on our own. We can do this with the help of the Canadian people. This will be a national sanctuary for the dying. (31:07 - 31:14) And in the moment we're being ghosted. We're being stonewalled. They won't even reply to us. (31:15 - 32:15) But this is what we need. We need sanctuary spaces. Health care sanctuary. And so you see how difficult it is when we have the money, we have the will to provide authentic, historically accurate palliative care programs, but we can't even do that. Yes. And once again, I'm sorry to take this in an even darker direction, but I'm connecting some dots here that maybe some people wouldn't, maybe because they don't know some of the things that I know that you know. We know that there have been late term abortions in Canada where that baby was born alive and the doctor killed it. So where they're trying to go with this is to completely remove the line between killing a baby in utero and killing a baby after it's born. Oh, you've had a kid, decide you don't want it, we'll kill it for you. (32:17 - 33:10) Yes. And because there's no legislation around it at all. All you need is a willing doctor or even nurse practitioner, some kind of health care professional. The only legislation that we have is around the ability to kill, right? We have no legislation around protection. You know, and this is where we ask the provinces, because health care is a provincial jurisdiction, we ask the provinces to bring forward legislation to protect children, to protect vulnerable people, to protect adults, to protect Canadians against empire made that has all the money, all the experts apparently, government favor, court, judiciary favor to go after us. And what we need now is legislation to protect us. (33:10 - 35:45) Yes. And you're absolutely right. Empire MAiD, it's a fantastic term, because this is a part of the globalist agenda for depopulation. Devalue human life to the point where, and I just keep having these horrific visions as we're talking about this, in reference to what I was just saying earlier. If we allow them to get away with this, it may not be all that long before in this country, you can take your baby to a clinic and have it put to sleep like you do with a pet, and it'll be perfectly legal. Yes. In fact, you know, I always say I would like to have the rights of a dog at this point, because animals are allowed to have no kill animal shelters. We herald it, we support it, but we're not allowed to have a no kill human shelter. So now let's get into a discussion of what we can do to stop this. As you've said, it's a sunset clause. It's already written into the laws. They're just waiting for the date, but that doesn't mean we can't stop it. Yes. So, you know, one of the things that we do as an organization is we provide the DNA defense kit, right? The legal forms that say, don't even talk to me about MAiD. We make declarations. We provide people with cards they can go into hospitals with that say, I require healthcare, not MAiD. In fact, we have, we have testimonies from people where they brought their card in when they had already been approached by doctors standing there with witnesses saying to them in the emergency ward, just sign the dotted line and this all goes away. We'll take you off to the slaughter room and made you. And those cards that we provide has actually saved people's lives. In fact, they've been called that damn card, right? Because it says I require healthcare, not MAiD. You know, this is a country where you have to present a card in the medical system to save your life. We do that, but we need sanctuary. You know, people like the Delta Hospice Society, they're trying to provide palliative care sanctuaries must be allowed to operate. We're ready to go. We need to be allowed to operate. You know, there are other organizations in this country that will help that will provide sanctuaries and their communities for people that must be allowed to happen. We must be allowed to embrace what palliative care always was. That is to help people live well until their natural end. And we do nothing to hasten death. This was a Canadian, this was a part of our Canadian identity. (35:46 - 36:28) This was a national treasure where people like Dr. Balfour Mount, their entire careers were put towards palliative care and palliative care has been destroyed in Canada. They just provide lip service now, but really their palliative care means you can kill people, you know, when they're in your ward. We need that. So we need to, we need to equip our people on the front lines with documentation on legal forms. We need to have places where people could go for sanctuary. You know, but what we really need to do is repeal this legislation or write into this legislation protection, protection for palliative care, protection for the vulnerable populations. (36:29 - 37:44) Without that, it's just a free for all as it is now where Empire MAiD rules the day. And socially, Angelina, it goes well beyond what we've discussed today, because here's the connections. They succeed in devaluing human life to the point where it no longer has any more value than a pet, if it even has that. Now, one of the major purposes of palliative care, because it was often provided to the elderly, that elderly person has a family who loves them and wants to spend as much time with them as they can. And when you take that concept away, it devalues human relationships and that is going to lead to yet further societal breakdown, because people no longer have those connections. They don't see that other person as being valuable. In short, what it would do is produce an entire society of sociopaths. And they already try, you know, they've prepared, Health Canada has prepared the kit, the little kit for the children, activity book around MAiD. Yes, I reported on that a couple of weeks ago, extremely disturbing stuff. (37:45 - 40:48) That's right. So just desensitize the children, right? So not only do they cart away grandma and euthanize her, and the children don't say anything, but now it becomes just part of the, like you said, just, you know, the identity of the child. When it's their turn, they will opt for it in discussion with the experts and say yes. And I'll tell you, these experts get a hold of these children and the parents are not even allowed to be in the room. The parents are not even allowed to access to the medical records of the child. And they tell them things like, you're never going to have a normal life. You'll never have children. You're going to be going through pain. They know the treatment options are horrific. So they scare the crap out of the child. And of course the child's like, all right, I'm out of here. So, you know, what we're talking about is a movement now, the greatest human rights movement of all time, is the human rights movement for humanity. The human rights movement to protect the children, to protect the vulnerable, to protect palliative care in Canada. This is, you know, people like Dying With Dignity Canada call themselves a human rights movement, a human rights organization. But the only thing they've ever done is never be satisfied. They got MAiD. They got it. It's not enough for them. Now they want to go after, they're suing in the courts in Ontario to push for mental health as being the sole criteria for MAiD. That's Dying With Dignity in the courts. They're pushing in the courts in British Columbia, where religious identity, religious liberty is not enough. You still have to MAiD people in your premises, right? They're destroying these foundations and they're calling themselves a human rights organization, but they're working in the court. They came after us. They came after the Delta Hospice Society to force a hospice to kill its patients. So it's interesting how these people calling themselves human rights organizations, but the true human rights movement is the protection of human life in Canada. Yes. And when I used the term sociopath earlier, while I'm not a psychiatrist, I was using it in the sense that a psychiatrist would. I discussed this with psychiatrists, psychologists. Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are made. A psychopath has something wrong, physically wrong with their brain. Those areas of the brain that are responsible for love, empathy, they're underdeveloped or nonexistent, but sociopaths have normal brains. They're trained to be sociopaths. They learn to be sociopaths. So as you said, they're going after the children and they are trying to turn them into sociopaths. People who have no empathy. And once you remove the empathy, you remove the connection. Wow. That is the future. (40:49 - 41:16) If we don't stop it. So we've talked about the things that we can do. Of course, we have to object to this. I mean, and folks call your MP, call your MLA, tell them that you object to this because they know that for every person that will take the time to call them, there's a hundred more out there who feel the same way. Make it clear that if they don't resist this agenda, you're not voting for them. And you represent a hundred more people who won't vote for them. (41:17 - 43:03) But is there anything that the viewers can do to help the Delta Hospice Society in your push to get this sanctuary? Yeah, you know, we always need supporters. You know, we believe that our numbers equal our strength. DeltaHospiceSociety.org. You can become a member for $10 a year. You can be on that roster of supporters. You know, when it comes down to hopefully being in front of the Minister of Health of British Columbia, she at the moment needs to understand, Josie Osborne at the moment needs to understand that we have strength behind us, that we want a sanctuary. We want a national sanctuary for the dying. We're going to call it sanctuary for the living. That we need to be allowed the freedom to do that. We're not even asking them for any money. All we're asking them is the ability to do it. So, you know, this is what we need. We need people behind us to support us, to provide it. We need provincial government to write into legislation the protection of palliative care in its authentic, right, authentic and original way. I'm looking to British Columbia. I'm looking to Alberta. I'm looking to Alberta that if we cannot do this in British Columbia, will you allow us to do this in Alberta? Yes. Because we will come. We will come. We will do it there. As far as I know, only Alberta and Saskatchewan have any kind of protections in place against this. Well, we always need the blessing, right? We always need the written approval of the ministers so that at some point, because, you know, we had the blessing. (43:03 - 44:26) We were the gem when we opened up our sanctuary, our hospice in British Columbia. But then, you know, a new government comes in and they don't like you so much. So, you know, we need things written down. We need protection. And we need to be in a community that will embrace us. We need to be in a constituency that will embrace us and protect us. If we bring a sanctuary to your land, will you stand with us? Will you stand with us on a municipal, on a provincial and a federal level? Will your representatives stand with us and protect us? That's what it comes down to at the end of the day, because we never know the political winds, how they change. But if the people are with us, we will come. We will come to your community and we will do this. And that raises another idea in my head. Even if we can't shut down this law, we could push to have amendments added to it. Amendments which state, if a person says, I don't want made and I don't want to hear about it. And furthermore, you are not to discuss it with my children, that becomes binding in law with penalties for breaking that law. That too would be a form of protection. Yeah. Yeah. And to call for authentic palliative care. Yes. (44:26 - 44:50) Right. We need that in the law. We need that because we have a beautiful 50-year medical discipline that protects people, that has nothing to do with euthanizing them. And that is what needs to be bolstered in the law. So together, you know, there's ways that we can protect people. But we're just not being given the avenue to do that. (44:51 - 44:59) Yes. And I think the other thing we have to do is take back the language. If anybody starts talking, folks, about made as palliative care, you need to correct them. (44:59 - 45:04) That is not palliative care. That's the opposite of palliative care. It's murder. (45:05 - 45:21) And maybe it's elective suicide, whatever term you want to put on it. But it is not palliative care. Palliative care is about keeping people alive and comfortable for as long as possible. Respecting life. And do not accept the term mature minor. Yes. (45:21 - 45:33) Do not accept that as a child. Yes. You're talking about children. This is very politically correct. Woke, nonsense, mature minor. These are children. (45:34 - 45:50) And they need to be protected. And our laws need to be strengthened to protect the rights of parents, not the state, to make decisions for their children. And together we can keep them from crossing Rubicon. (45:50 - 45:59) Because if they cross it, there's no way back. No, there is not. Angelina, thank you once again for your time and for being the watchdog on this. (46:01 - 46:11) Somebody's got to be keeping an eye on these people and letting people know what's happening. Because you can't take action if you don't know what's happening. Thank you. Thank you all very much.