(0:00 - 0:10) Information bioterrorism. Informational biological blackmail. Psychological bioterrorism. (0:11 - 2:11) All termed for the massive psyop we've all been subjected to for the last several years, starting with the COVID narrative to monkeypox and now H5N1 or avian flu, which is most likely the WHO's disease X. Dr. Robert Malone, author of the best-selling book, "Lies My Government Told Me", is also well known as the inventor of mRNA technology, a technology he abandoned years ago when he discovered it couldn't be done without serious side effects. Since the beginning of the current global psyop, Dr. Malone has used his knowledge of science and his past experience working extensively with the U.S. government to uncover the lies, the bad actors, and the ultimate goals of our would-be globalist masters. In addition to being a physician, vaccinologist, virologist, and molecular biologist, Dr. Malone worked in biodefense and medical countermeasure development through multiple infectious disease outbreaks, working in cooperation with scientists at the U.S. Army Medical Research of Infectious Diseases Research Facility and the Defence Threat Reduction Agency. As Dr. Malone himself says, I know these people. I know how they think, what they are concerned with, and what they do. In this interview, Dr. Malone explains not only how psychological bioterrorism is used against us, but who the primary agency is behind the psyop, what the globalists pulling the strings are really trying to achieve, how the globalists themselves are organised, and perhaps, most importantly, what we can expect as the avian flu disease X narrative continues to escalate. (2:17 - 2:22) Robert, it's a pleasure to have you back on the show. Thanks for having me. It's great to be here, Will. (2:23 - 3:20) Now, I reached out to you due to a Substack post that you wrote recently. I found it very interesting, and we're going to get into that in a minute, psychological biowarfare. First, I wanted to ask, and we were discussing this before the interview, your background is in the biological sciences, and yet your book, the one you've already written, The Lies My Government Told Me, and you're working on a new one now, and your Substack, which I've been following for some time, a lot of what you write there is politics, sociology, psychology. That's quite a jump from your background. What led to that? It is and it isn't. Among other things, I am a government affairs specialist, and a lot of that has to do, and you can't operate in DC without understanding the underpinning politics and fortunately or unfortunately, I've had to spend way too much time in DC dealing with beltway companies and government clients. (3:22 - 4:59) The honest truth is, although I always had an interest in politics and sociology, and of course, my wife and partner, who co-authors much of this, has her background in anthropology, particularly biologic anthropology, as well as her PhD is in public policy and biotechnology. So, we're very much a team, and as I said, I've always been interested in politics and kept my hand in and tried to follow a lot of the current policy discussions. If for no other reason than it was essential to my business as a consultant in this sector of biodefense and regulatory affairs and government contracting. But during COVID, what I had encountered was that something was very different compared to all the prior outbreaks that I'd been very involved in, going back to the earliest days of what was then LAV, then HTLV-3, and then HIV or AIDS. And so, I've always kind of had my feet in this world of infectious disease. Tony Fauci has been a shadow in the background through my entire career, and I've watched him and avoided him most of the time. (4:59 - 9:38) It's the reason why I work more with DOD than with NIH is because of how deeply corrupt the NIAID is and how some of the dysfunctional dynamics of NIH and the NIAID compared to the DOD, which is more focused on actually getting products out the door that help people, particularly warfighters, but that's their mission, rather than publishing academic works in high-profile journals. But as I experienced firsthand the COVID crisis and the political dynamics that went on around it and the attacks, vilification, gaslighting, defamation that I experienced personally coming from corporate media, and then the propaganda, the just amazing propaganda and misstatements that were circulating, I had the need to make sense out of it. Among other things, one of my go-to defence mechanisms is intellectualisation of things. And so when I started getting attacked, I dove into my favourite go-to of trying to understand why and how this was happening. And so that led me down these various rabbit holes of what is psychological warfare, what is modern censorship, what is modern propaganda, what is nudge technology, what's driving the policies that we're seeing deployed from the Department of Homeland Security. And of course, because of my work in defence, I'm very familiar with the intelligence community. I'm not CIA, please. That's such a worn-out trope. You know, what CIA officer do you know that would put out the kind of information that I have put out, including directly naming CIA officers? That's not within the wheelhouse of the agency's behaviour. But you can't be in this sector of biodefense without being touched frequently by people from the intelligence community and having an interface with them and understanding their culture. And I certainly have had many touch points and lots of experiences and opportunities to understand. They are trained liars, by the way. In order to become a CIA operative, you have to go to the community. But I think we have to stress that point. You're not using that term trained liar lightly, just conversational. You're saying these people are literally trained to lie effectively. Yes. Lie and manipulate your mind. So they go through a training programme in the DTC area. And then among other things, they're set loose in the city of Baltimore with tasks in terms of how they are to project who they are. And they have to convince other people that they are what they're not and get them to do things. I mean, this is part of the training is lying and manipulation. They're very, very effective at it. Or they don't become field operatives. And that training and those techniques that are used, this is a tangent, but when I listened to the testimony from Dr. Fauci and Dr. Daszak, what I see is the classical strategies deployed by trained CIA operatives. The bullying, gaslighting, manipulation, avoidance of truth, just all these things are classic CIA behaviour. It's not saying that either of them are CIA, but they certainly have assimilated that culture. (9:39 - 12:55) Right. Someone is either coaching them or someone has trained them. Yeah. And in the case of Tony, he's been doing this for decades, really since the beginning of the AIDS crisis. And he's grown up with it. And that's all well-documented in Bobby's book, The Real Anthony Fauci. So in my case, it was this journey of discovery and sense-making. What has happened here during COVID that's different from prior outbreaks? And I'm often reminded of the famous line in Shrek, ogres are like onions. They have layers. You just peel the layers back, and then there's more layers and more layers and more layers, and it's difficult. I still don't... If you ask me who were the true puppet masters of the COVID crisis, I can't give you an answer. I can triangulate around that answer, and I can tell you that it's not Klaus Schwab. I can tell you that it's not Tony Fauci. Is it Peter Daszak? He's pretty close to the centre. But is it... There's those that spin off into the ancient banking families, and then we get into ethnic group pejoratives, and all of that stuff. I don't want to go there. I'm not compelled that this is manipulations of the Rothschilds behind the scenes, just to give one example that some people cite. Does it have an economic component? That's undisputable. Has the COVID crisis been weaponised and manipulated to support a variety of economic agendas or economic political agendas, including imposition of a variety of personal identification and tracking technology? That, I think, is well established now through the green cards. Is this related to the social credit system? I'm like you. I don't like to speculate. I'll wrap it around an explicit statement. This is my hypothesis. But I don't state as truth things that we don't have artefacts to demonstrate that truth. For instance, for a long time, I would never talk about depopulation agenda until I saw the Kissinger Report. And if you read the Kissinger Report, it's explicit in that it's US policy to promote a depopulation agenda. That's indisputable. (12:57 - 13:49) It is American foreign policy. And it's really quite dark, as are many things when you apply Kissinger's version of real politic to them, where the ends really do justify the means. It leads to a lot of really dark political positions. But can I say the vaccine is a depopulation tool? No, I don't see any artefacts. Whether or not it may actually function as such, I don't see any artefacts that allow me to conclude that that was the original intent. So I don't say it. Others do. And that's their business. But I don't find that useful. (13:50 - 17:37) So just using that as an example, so I've been on this journey now for almost four years of trying to comprehend what has occurred and what makes this different from the prior outbreaks that I've experienced. And part of what makes it different is me. I was much more naive in the past. The experience of experiencing these things, having these personal direct experiences and observations has impacted on my worldview. There's no question I'm a different person than I was before the COVID crisis. But the diving into the politics, the sociology, the economics about which I'm almost completely ignorant. I'm just a beginner student. Things like anarcho-capitalism and what does that mean? What's the logical underpinnings of that philosophy as opposed to libertarianism are all things that I've had to dive into bringing to bear the training that I've received in terms of thought and logic and research. But it's been a journey of discovery for me. And the Substack has basically been a, number one, it's a way to serialise a book. Because books don't pay anyhow. And there's no way I could afford to just sit down and write a book. So Substack gives me daily revenue. But the Substack has been a journey of discovery. It's a chronicle of that journey, almost like a diary. And I think that has proven useful for many who, like me, were not sophisticated, hardcore sceptic wonks of following government affairs and State Department memos. Those people are out there. I have great respect for Matt Taibbi, for example, who brings insights daily and his cohort, his colleagues on Racket News and the other organisations that he interacts with. I've always enjoyed reading Matt Taibbi back when he was at the old Rolling Stone. But I enjoyed reading Hunter S. Thompson also. It's been a journey of discovery. And that's led me to the point, plus together with the daily experiences of interacting in social media space and corporate media space as a protagonist, rather than just an observer, an occasional commentator, usually off the record with this journalist or that journalist. Subject matter expert, commentator has been my role with the media historically for decades. But to be directly in the firing line changes your point of view on those things, especially when you're subject to their attempts to delegitimise you. (17:38 - 19:09) It certainly does. Yeah. So that's what brought me to this place. And I don't pretend to be anything other than a student and an observer, but I do bring a certain amount of intellectual firepower and training and this deep experiential background of having spent my whole career dealing with these jokers in the DOD and in the NIH and HHS and CDC. I've sat through I don't know how many ACIP meetings on behalf of clients and watched the games that go on there. So at least I wasn't naive about those things. So those are the tools that I've brought to it and that's why I've come to that place. Yeah. And we all have. I started my freedom organisation in the summer of 2020 having absolutely no idea of what was really going on. It actually took me a while to figure it out. But a lot of the information that I collect now is on the lines of trying to figure out what are their strategies? What are they going to do? Not so much what have they done, but learning from what they've done to what they're going to do. And that was- Yes. Where your recent Substack on psychological bioterrorism really caught my interest because you were very clearly in there referring to things that they had done, but you were also talking about things they might do coming down the road in the next few years. So before we get into that though- Or the next few days. (19:09 - 19:14) Or the next few days. Yes. The H5N1 is an ongoing case study. (19:14 - 19:32) Yes. Absolutely. Fascinating that Asimov is referring to the prior H5N1 events in his interview that was the basis for this essay. One that was done in 2017. Yes. Fascinating.