[Will Dove] MAiD in Canada has now killed over 60,000 Canadians since its legalization in 2016, making Canada the number one country in the world for euthanizing our citizens. And that's raw numbers, not per capita. Elderly people are often the target.   Nearing the end of their lives, sick and perhaps not able to fully understand their decisions, doctors and nurses are urging them to let the medical community kill them. After all, they've outlived their usefulness and shouldn't be a burden to anyone. And Trudeau's government wants to extend MAID to the mentally ill and even make it possible for what they call mature minors to opt for MAID without parental consent. Note, there is no set age in Canada for what constitutes a mature minor. But one organization is working to protect Canadians from MAID and they are doing so effectively by putting the power in your hands. The Delta Hospice Society in BC has launched two cross-Canada programs to protect people from being put down by a government which recently announced that MAID could save our health care system $138 million a year. While I care for people in their final days, people who have families who love them and want to spend as much time with them as they can, when you can simply put them down and save the system some money. Angelina Ireland is the director of the Delta Hospice Society. She joins me today to explain the extent of the problem in what one blogger recently referred to as our death cult of a country and how you could protect yourself and the people you love from medical homicide.   Angelina, thanks so much for coming back on the show.   [Angelina Ireland] Thank you for having me and discussing this really weighty subject.   [Will Dove] It is. And for those of my viewers who remember you from before, Angelina Ireland, you are the founder of the Delta Hospice Society or the director. I'm sorry, I might be getting that wrong.   [Angelina Ireland] No, no. In fact, Delta Hospice Society is a 33-year palliative care organization. I've had the honour of being the president for a number of years and now the executive director.   [Will Dove] President and executive director. Thank you for correcting me on that. And of course, the Delta Hospice Society, you're all about palliative care, taking care of people as they're approaching death and doing so in a dignified way.   And you have been extremely vocal about the made policies in our country that are just slaughtering tens of thousands of people. And we're here to talk about that today. And I contacted you specifically, we've got a few things to talk about, but specifically because you've got a couple of new great initiatives, your Guardian Angels program, your Do Not Euthanize Defense Kits.   Please tell our viewers about those.   [Angelina Ireland] Yeah. Well, I think it's really important, first of all, that we give a bit of a definition. What are we talking about when we're talking about palliative care?   Because it's important is because since 2016, since the Liberal government, since the Trudeau regime, palliative care has been devastated in Canada. Okay, so what am I talking about? So I think the best thing we can start is talking about the definition, the International Association for Hospice and Palliative Care.   Okay. They went into great detail. They did a lot of really good work about what exactly is palliative care.   They went and they got doctors from around the world, physicians, nurses, psychologists, sociologists, oncologists from all over the world, UK, Spain, South Africa, India, Brazil, Uganda, Kenya, Panama. Okay. So we're talking about a very comprehensive look at what palliative care is.   And ultimately, I would tell you it is something that I can only describe as an absolute gift to humanity. We talk about including things like prevention, early identification, comprehensive assessment, management of physical issues, including pain, support to help patients live as fully as possible until their death. But number one, it is a medical discipline of 50 years that intends neither to hasten nor postpone death.   Period. So MAID, Medical Assistance in Dying, has no place in palliative care. We do not kill the patient.   And that is an international definition of the medical discipline. Okay. Then we enter 2016, Canada.   We enter the Trudeau regime. And we see, first of all, one of the first things they do is they take the most sacred right that the Canadian people have, that that right, which is that the government can kill its citizens. They take that right from the people with Bill C-14, saying that the state can now kill people.   It's called non-culpable homicide in the criminal code. They can now kill people that they consider to be sick, irremediable, irremediable, looking towards death. Well, excuse me, but that's where palliative care comes in.   And from that point forward, we have seen nothing but the absolute devastation of this national treasure. Because palliative care actually was developed tremendously in Canada, right? Palliative care is part of our national identity.   Through people like Dr. Balfour Mount, out of McGill University, he institutionalized this movement. He went with and studied with Dame Cicely Saunders. I mean, these are the people, these are the experts in the realm of palliative care.   So it is ironic, it is tragic that the country that promoted, developed palliative care in the world is now the country that destroys it.   [Will Dove] Yes. America was the number one country in the world for MAID deaths, and that's not a percentage of population either. That's raw numbers.   [Angelina Ireland] Indeed. Now, the government will admit to about 60,000 people that it's MAIDed, and it's euthanized. But I'm here to tell you that number is probably incorrect.   That number is incorrect because, and we know this because of some excellent work done by Alexander Rankin in August of 2024. This is fresh off the, from exceptional to routine. Okay?   And in his study, he very, very plainly says that there's contradictions in MAID reporting. Okay? He's uncovered that people like, for example, the coroner in Ontario, right, they're not even putting MAID down on the death certificate.   [Will Dove] Yes. Right? And that's very important for people to understand.   There are provinces where MAID is not listed as a cause of death. Right. They list the, whatever the underlying condition was that justified the MAID.   [Angelina Ireland] Exactly.   [Will Dove] So you're right. The count is probably way off.   [Angelina Ireland] Right. I mean, Stats Canada never uses MAID, right? They never use it as an official cause of death.   And only the underlying illness is the cause of death. So the Canadian people don't even know how many people have been euthanized in this country. Right?   Number one, let's get to that. We don't even know what the government has been doing to us as a people.   [Will Dove] And 60,000 people since 2016 is obscene in and of itself.   [Angelina Ireland] Yeah, that's probably on the low side. I always kind of joke, they probably forgot a zero.   [Will Dove] Right.   [Angelina Ireland] But it's not really. You know what I mean? It's probably, who knows?   I suspect that just intrinsically, we all know somebody or know of somebody who knows somebody who's been a MAIDed. Okay. We are at the lowest two degrees of separation from this.   Yeah. There's no way on earth it's 60,000 people. So covered up, hidden, we don't know what's going on.   But what I do know is that in the process of being able to get at all of these people, they've absolutely decimated palliative care in this country.   [Will Dove] Right. Now I have a question, Angelina, and I'm a little embarrassed I don't know the answer myself, I should. Have they now defined MAID as a aspect of palliative care?   [Angelina Ireland] Well, they're trying, right? They're trying, which is why I wanted to open with the absolute definition of palliative care. Okay.   So everybody knows when they start talking about it, they're wrong. So we're involved in this country as a political movement, right? This is nothing medical about me.   This is a political movement where the state now kills its citizens and they basically indoctrinate people to think that this is a good thing. So I know people like, I know Dying With Dignity Canada, right? They're a not-for-profit charity.   Yeah, they want to jump on the bandwagon and talk about how they should be talking about what palliative care is. Here it says, Dying With Dignity Canada's role. This is from their website.   What's palliative care? Oh, we have a lot to say about it and we're all about human rights. No, no.   They have nothing to say about it. In fact, they should be the last people to talk about palliative care. Okay.   Yes. They want to be able to change the definition to include killing people. Yes.   It does not. Okay. That's something else.   They want an end-of-life care, right? Well, palliative care is end-of-life care. Killing sick old people is not care.   Talking about killing the disabled, killing mentally ill people, killing old people out of fragility, that's not care. So yeah, we've got people like Dying with Dignity Canada who, I might also add, 2023 financials just came out from these guys and they spent 1.3 million on salaries and benefits. So they've got tons of people out there just pushing this and they spend over $775,000 a year on advertising and promotion. So it's really no wonder that all you're hearing about is how killing sick old, desperate people is human rights. Allowing the government to kill its citizens is human rights. You know what?   I'll tell you how many people we have on our side. We have basically volunteers, right? The government's not giving us millions of dollars to push this agenda.   In fact, they take our assets away from us and they silence us. So, you know, we are really dealing with an empire. We're talking about MAID, but an empire made up of these not-for-profits that get millions of dollars in donations, not only from prime, but from governments. We're talking about the bureaucracy, Health Canada, who has 18 full-time staff members devoted to this end-of-life aspect, right? Who can make these activity books for children, talking about medical assistants and dying, and nice little diagrams and things and puzzles and things for children to basically desensitize them when they cart granny off to meet her. We're up against a judiciary who keeps granting the government more and more power to kill their citizens.   And we're dealing with a narrative that is so potent, right? About it's the most beautiful thing, it's peaceful, right? It's incredibly difficult for us to even get a word in about what is actually happening in this country.   [Will Dove] Yes. And from my perspective, this is very much a campaign to, yes, you said desensitize, to devalue human life in this country to the point where they convince people it has no value. Now, if you're not, and maybe they'll even go beyond this, but right now it seems like, well, if you're a contributing member of society, you've got a job, you're paying taxes, okay, maybe get a right to life.   But if that's not you, well, you have no value. And who knows, eventually get to the point where it doesn't matter if you're contributing or not, you still have no value. But I wanted to talk about this statement you made about peaceful, because they advertise this all the time.   This is wonderful, peaceful death. Well, you and I were talking about this before the interview, and we don't know that. We don't people the facts about how this is done.   [Angelina Ireland] Yeah. What we do know came out in the Senate hearings, okay? This is a transcript from the Senate hearings on Bill C-7 in 2021.   Testimony from a Dr. Joel B. Civitt, anesthesiologist, 26 years. Instead, to the Senate, he introduces himself in this transcript.   And then he says he has a lot of experience with the kinds of drugs that they're using in things like MAID. Okay, he was here to talk about MAID, to warn the Canadian people about what getting MAIDed really is, right? He's saying that the drugs that they use cause you to basically drown.   The lungs fill with fluid, he says, and I would describe the experience of dying under that circumstance as more akin to death by waterboarding, which we recognize to be cruel. What did the chair say to him at that point? You'd think that someone who was really interested would want a little bit more information, who would be shocked.   She says, Dr. Civitt, could you wrap it up, please? Okay? And then he says, listen, the kind of death that you think you're feeding to the Canadian public is not what they will experience as a consequence of MAID.   I'm quoting him here. It will be something other than the way it is represented. It could be exceedingly painful and more akin to drowning.   Okay, that's a drop like moment. Then he says, I'll answer your questions. They had zero questions.   They cut him off, they put him away, the end. And this has basically been buried. Okay?   Now, when you ask the question to the euthanasia lobby, what's in this MAID cocktail? What are you doing to people? Right away, they want to talk about midazolam.   Oh, midazolam. Well, excuse me. Midazolam has its issues, but number one, midazolam is not the thing that kills in the MAID cocktail.   You could talk about what midazolam is, but listen, basically, it's like, it causes some, oh, it's very lovely and peaceful. Basically, it causes amnesia. Okay?   So first of all, they're basically roofing people, okay, with midazolam. And then they start with the big guns. Then they put in the propofol, the propofol.   Now, all of these drugs that they're using in MAID are what you call off purpose. They're not made for that. Okay?   They're using them in high- Off-label. Off-label. Thank you.   Right? Off-label. They're using them because they can kill, but they were never meant for that purpose.   So in clinical use, propofol, right, has been used for, like, I don't know, pain relief. All right? However, they're using a hundred times the clinical dose, propofol, in the MAID cocktail, right?   And they're using a thousand milligrams in the MAID injection. And again, Dr. Sivit, Dr. Sivit says, I quote, it's very likely causing burning in the lungs and tissue destruction. Okay?   Bam. Then they're saying, they even know when they use a little bit of propofol, it actually burns, burns going into the, oh, they're using a hundred times that amount to spurn and scorch the lungs. Then they're using rocoronium.   That's a paralytic. We're not talking about roofing and drowning. I'm not joking.   Rocoronium is a paralytic that they use. So the person, no wonder it looks peaceful. The other person just laying there, it looks such a lovely, you know, death because they're paralyzed.   You know what? They don't even use paralytic drugs when they euthanize a dog. But they're using paralyzing drugs when they're euthanizing human beings in this country.   So the person looks beautiful. Isn't this fabulous? Everybody's having the thing, looking at the person, beautiful and peaceful.   God only knows what's going on.   [Will Dove] Yes. And I can attest to that as having been a paramedic when I was younger, if you use a drug to paralyze someone, okay, they can't move, but that does not mean they can't feel anything. It doesn't mean they're not conscious.   It just means they can't move. It's not like when you get a vertebrae severed in your neck and you can't feel anything from neck down. If you use a drug to paralyze, all it did was shut off the voluntary muscles.   We don't know what the person's experiencing.   [Angelina Ireland] That's right. We don't know. We don't know how many people they've MAIDed. We don't know what's going on in people's bodies when they're getting MAIDed, right? But what we do know, we're getting a bunch of propaganda and nonsense from lobby groups, big government money. That's what we're getting.   And I've become one of the few people in this country who will speak on the issue of just what the hell are they doing, the Canadian people.   [Will Dove] And Angelina, before we move on to the new initiatives that you've got, and they're fantastic, let's talk about that for a minute. Why is it that there's so few people who will stand up and say, wait a minute, there's all kinds of things wrong with this?   [Angelina Ireland] Well, when they try to, like they did with us, the first thing they do is take our assets away.   [Will Dove] Yes.   [Angelina Ireland] Right? Shut us down, de-platform us, vilify us. It's cancel us.   It's dangerous, to be quite frank with you, to speak about this topic. In my personal experience, it attacked me, canceled me, vilified me, made me an absolute pariah. Come after my home, throw eggs at my home, banged on my door.   I have three security cameras on my property. The police had to get involved, right? I can't even find out who does this to me because it's all redacted when I look at the police reports.   So, you're not allowed to speak. We see some people who have spoken and stood up in this country and they end up in the gulag, to be quite frank with you. It takes a level of craziness, I suppose, to talk about this.   Because there are consequences, there are always consequences and they are not pretty. And you start talking about what's happening to the Canadian people.   [Will Dove] Now, just before we move on, we've discussed this at length in one of our previous interviews, but I'm sure there's some people, when you said asset seizure, they're picturing something small. It's not. Would you please give the viewers the Reader's Digest version of what happened to the Delta Hospice Society?   [Angelina Ireland] Yeah. So, we fundraised $8.5 million. We're a private organization.   We got a lease with the Fraser Health Authority for 35 years. We built two buildings, a hospice and 10 beds, a supportive care center. We can provide palliative care programs.   We refused to participate in MAID. We refused to kill our patients. And the health authority and the government came after us.   They canceled our service agreement with them, which was fine. One and a half million dollars a year. That's fine.   We can raise that. We can still have a hospice. No, that wasn't good enough.   That didn't shut us up. So, then they canceled our lease. They evicted us from the property, expropriated our buildings.   Eight and a half million dollars worth of assets expropriated and zero compensation.   [Will Dove] To point out, now you're releasing the land, but the buildings that you put on it, you built those. Yes, we did. With donated funds.   They belong to you and they took them with no compensation.   [Angelina Ireland] Oh, of course not. For the Stone Cold Communism, that's why. You stand up, you speak out, they'll take your stuff.   And if you're not careful, you'll end up in the Gulag. So, only by the grace of God, I have to say, we still operate as an organization. They were able to take the organization from us.   We had thousands and thousands of people in this country stand up for us to protect us, that we can continue to have a voice in the public square, which is what I do every day to defend and protect palliative care, to ensure that there is some kind of sanctuary for the dying in this country. That's why I speak.   [Will Dove] Well, thank you that you do. So, now let's talk about these new initiatives you've got, because it is, I think, great ideas that are going to make a difference. They're certainly going to give hope to some people and protection, which is the biggest thing, protection from having this done to them.   And especially, as we were discussing before the interview, a lot of these are elderly people who don't necessarily understand what the doctor is explaining to them. Exactly. They just say yes to it, and the next thing you know, they're dead.   [Angelina Ireland] Exactly. We know, I'm British Columbia alone here, for example, 87% of those MAIDed are over 65. The average age is 77.   Listen, they're after the elderly. They're after the sick. That's who they want to eliminate.   We have a whole generation, the Boomers, that's who they're after. You know why? Because they're expensive now.   Now, thank you very much for everything you did for the country, for all the time you paid into your pension and helped to create this fantastic medical system, but now you're probably going to need it. So, it's time to get rid of you.   [Will Dove] Okay.   [Angelina Ireland] So, anybody who's, right?   [Will Dove] Probably not inconsiderable is if you die without a will, the government gets your assets.   [Angelina Ireland] Exactly. So, why is anybody surprised? We should be surprised what's happening.   What we're saying is that, listen, we know, many people have done really good work, have spoken out about this. I said there were a few in this country, there are, you know, people like Alex Shadenberg, the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, a shout out to him. You know, people like Kelsey Sheeran, Kelsey Sheeran Perspective, her podcast, shout out to her.   Amanda Actman, a shout out to her. These people who are bringing the stories forward, but quite frankly, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the nightmare, and we need to do something about it.   I don't really want to hear any more stories. So, what we've decided is we're going to do something about it, and we're going to help to protect people, and our initiatives will help to protect you. The Do Not Euthanize Defense Kit, we call it, okay?   We have the Do Not Euthanize Advanced Directive for every province in this country. Basically, it says, you will not euthanize me. I'm not interested in your name.   Don't even think you're good at it, because what they do then is they just pull the plug on you. No food for you, no oxygen, and no hydration, and then you'll just die, right? So, we've got it all in there, and we're saying, you will not, you will give me health care.   You will give me health care until my natural end, and we give these to people free of charge. Come to our website, deltahospicesociety.org, and order one. We'll send it to you.   It asks you what province you reside in or territory, right? It's there for you. We don't ask it for any money, and the next thing that we do is we will put you on a national registry, right?   We'll put you in our secure database that you have that, that you have signed that, and you better not end up MAIDed, because we've got the proof here. We've got the receipts that you have signed it, and we will send to you a wallet-sized card. Do not euthanize a wallet-sized laminated card.   Customize with your name on it, with your registry number on it, right? And it says, I require health care not MAID. On the back, it says, I have signed and do not euthanize advanced directive, okay?   Anybody who sees that card in your wallet, they better be worried, because we know that we can come after them for homicide if our people end up dead by MAID.   [Will Dove] And where can people get this? Before we move on, where can people get this, Angelina?   [Angelina Ireland] Come to our website. Do not use, sorry, deltahospicesociety.org. Call us, 1-800-232-1589, and maybe you could put it up on the screen.   [Will Dove] We will.   [Angelina Ireland] Right? Our website and our telephone number. It's a toll-free number.   Look, there's no reason why now you can't protect yourself. We've got these initiatives for you. We're a not-for-profit charity.   We defend your life. We defend palliative care. That's what you need.   You need palliative care. You don't need death. That's not care.   But I got to tell you that this whole thing just keeps getting worse and worse, because now we've got organizations like CAMAP, okay? I want to bring this to your attention. This is a publication from the Canadian Association of MAID Assessors and Providers, another not-for-profit that gets money from the government. And they have this publication. It's like 15 pages long, and it's called Bringing Up Medical Assistance in Dying as a Clinical Care Option. They're sending this trash to every doctor and nurse practitioner in this country, okay?   And you know what they're telling them, okay? Let me quote what they're telling them. They're telling them that discussing the wish to hasten death is not upsetting to the majority of Canadians, advanced cancer patients, right?   It's not upsetting to them, so go ahead, right? It's important for you as a clinician to proactively assess the potential wish for hastened death, okay?   [Will Dove] I'm sorry. They actually use the word proactively.   [Angelina Ireland] Yes, yes, yes. Right here, right here, okay?   [Will Dove] Which means you should be suggesting this to your patients.   [Angelina Ireland] That's right, that's right. So they're sending out this literature to all the doctors and nurses in the country, telling them to go ahead and bring it up. In fact, we have clients where they have no interest.   Their primary physician has come to them and said, oh, do you want MAID now? I have an affidavit for one of these people who's sitting there with stage four cancer, and she's not interested. She's a Christian, and they're coming to her saying you want death.   And in fact, what happened was she said, no, no, no, no. I don't believe in that. I believe that God never, you know, I put my trust in God now, okay?   And this person says to her, and I quote, oh, and she puts up the hands. This is just one of the tools that God uses. Wow.   Because this is where they're getting this nonsense.   [Will Dove] Angelina, I'd like to insert a personal story to put that in perspective. In 2016, I had stage four cancer. Nobody ever so much as suggested to me that I should be thinking about killing myself.   It was all about treatment and what were the best chances. And clearly, of course, it worked. I'm still here.   Fast forward eight years, oh, you got stage four cancer. Well, have you considered killing yourself?   [Angelina Ireland] Yes. God. Yes.   Yes. And in fact, this is against the criminal code section 241, counseling to suicide. But you know what this beautiful little document does?   It's pages upon pages of how they can get away from getting charged under the criminal code for counseling to suicide. That's what this little document's all about, right? Ways that they can get away with murder.   That's what it's about.   [Will Dove] Right. To legalize your doctor advising to you that you should kill yourself.   [Angelina Ireland] Yeah. So again, we have to answer this. We have to answer to this.   And so as part of our kit now, we have a declaration that says, made is not a healthcare option. Okay, we went to a lawyer, went to another lawyer, we got another document that says, don't even bring it up to me. Because if you dare bring this up to me, I will consider you have violated section 241 of the criminal code and we're coming for you.   Right? I mean, it's like, we have to be running out around all over the place, keeping tabs on all these people, but what they're trying to do to us, that's fine. We will answer the call.   So I encourage your listeners to go to our website, get the kit, the DNE, the wallet cards, get on the national registry, get your declaration that says, don't even talk to me about it. Right? Because we think that, look, defense is the best offense.   Particularly when you're dealing with a behemoth. You got to defend yourself, you have to protect yourself from MAID, protect yourself, protect your loved ones, right? And it's not all cracked up to what they say it is.   And try to open your mind to the fact that it is nothing but beneficial to the government, to all of these players in this arena, that you kill yourself, right? Or you allow agents of the state to kill you. See, I can't help but harken back to history, right? We have seen this before. They probably haven't been as sophisticated, but we have seen this before. In fact, I will even go as far as to say that people like Stalin and Mao would blush at the absolute genius that it took the government to kill their citizens, right?   They just line them up and execute them. This is like, we got people now lining up to drink the Kool-Aid. Not only lining up, but willing to pay for it, to continue the system.   This is beyond the pale in terms of the genius behind getting Canadians to just allow themselves to be executed.   [Will Dove] Yes. And we know where they're trying to go with it, of course, because now they want it for the mentally ill. Well, what's mental illness?   Depression. And then they want it for mature minors. Well, what's a mature minor?   Well, there isn't actually a definition of that. So if they get their way, the nightmare scenario that I see, and I think you and I have discussed this before, is you get some 14-year-old kid who's depressed. They go to their school counselor.   The counselor sends them to a doctor. And the next thing that parents know about it, it's come down to the hospital and pick up the body.   [Angelina Ireland] Right. Well, I wish I could say that was the end of it. I wish I could, but it's not.   Right. Because now, now we have to deal with not only why do they want to kill you, what's in the cocktail, death cocktail, but what are they doing with you after they MAIDed you? Okay.   We need to talk about that. Maybe some of your listeners are not aware that we have an opt-out system in this country, meaning that every Canadian who dies is considered to be an organ and tissue donor. Okay.   You're an organ donor whether you like it or not. You actually have to opt out of the system and say, no, no, you're not taking my organs and my tissues when I die. Okay.   So we now have, you know, some of these zealots. Then I'll call them out. Dr. James Downer, you know, right. And stuff like this, who's like apparently a palliative care physician working over at the University of Ottawa. You're talking about a diseased organ and tissue donation after medical assistance in dying. So the harvesting of people's organs, it's got this fantastic little, what would you call it, graph, beautiful graph here.   To me, it looks nothing but a business plan, to be quite frank with you. It talks about harvesting tissues and organs from MAID people and people whom you withdraw life-sustaining measures from. Okay.   That's what life-sustaining, that's when they starve you to death. Okay. When they withdraw your oxygen and your hydration.   [Will Dove] And we should point out, Angelina, that that's not unusual. Happens all the time.   [Angelina Ireland] Yes, absolutely it does. So it's not enough of a nightmare, quite frankly. Now we have to worry about the surgical retrieval of your organs and tissues.   Now we have to worry about the elimination of the dead donor, a rule, basically that you can't take their organs until you kill someone. Well, that's not even the law, that's just kind of a practice. Now we're talking about this graph which says pre-mortem donor interventions.   What the hell is that? Pre-mortem donor interventions. They can get your organs before you actually die because it's better if you can get organs from people who aren't actually dead.   It's fresher, the blood's still, look it up. I'm challenging your listeners to look it up.   [Will Dove] The plan is put you under, harvest your organs, then kill you.   [Angelina Ireland] I think.   [Will Dove] Yeah.   [Angelina Ireland] Okay. So look, there's a lot of real ugly, real ugly that we need to discuss in this country. The proponents of this, they're going to capture the language.   They're going to talk about it's beautiful and it's peaceful and it's human rights. And they're going to grab, and if you refuse to kill everybody, that's discrimination. What they don't want you to know are the kinds of things that I'm discussing here with you today.   What they don't want you to talk about is what the hell is in that MAID cocktail. What they don't want you to talk about is organ harvesting or the fact that the Canadian people have lost the most sacred right they have, and that is for the government not to be able to kill its citizens. And I will also say to you that the whole thing around the sunset clause in Bill C-7, which is where they were going to give it a couple of years, and then they were going to introduce killing people based solely on the basis of mental illness.   I think that was a lost leader, to be quite frank with you. Everybody's getting so concerned about the fact that they're going to do these things to people that they've taken their attention away for what I think was ultimately what they wanted in the first place, and that was unfettered access to the old and the sick. Which they have.   Which they now have.   [Will Dove] Yes.   [Angelina Ireland] Because they have, it's called track one. Track one has been sacrificed. The deal has been made that they will not touch track two, which is those people with intolerable kind of situations, that they're going to ease off on the track two, people with underlying mental illness as being the reason.   It's like this, right? When you go into negotiations for something, I want to get $2 million for something. Well, I'm going to ask $2.5 million. That's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to haggle with them, because all I really want is $2 million. And I'll say, okay, well, you won.   You won. I'm not going to charge a $2.5 million, knowing all I ever really wanted was the $2 million. And I will say to you, all they ever really wanted was access to the sick and the elderly in this country.   And I think that's what they have achieved.   [Will Dove] Right. Now, we've also got Guardian Angels program.   [Angelina Ireland] So Guardian Angels is basically like, we will put people at your bedside when they're in the hospital. That's what we'll do. We have a volunteer force of people who literally go out and they, we call them friendly visitors on a mission.   And the mission is to ensure that people are getting healthcare, that they're not being pressured, you know, from doctors who get this advice from CAMAP, right? They're not being talked to about MAID. They're actually getting healthcare, that they're being treated well until their natural end.   That's what palliative care is, right? And so we have people who volunteer with us to be their Guardian Angel that will go and make regular visits to people. And we'll go to a long-term care facility, a hospital, old age residents, you know, just to ensure, but most importantly, so that they can see that we have eyes on our people.   And Guardian Angels have been very successful. Again, you can go on our website, you can become a volunteer if you'd like in your community, or you can ask for a Guardian Angel or for somebody that you love who's in that circumstance. You know, we'll do our best to try to find somebody who will go visit them regularly.   You know, this all comes from just a grassroots effort, right? This is our defense against a that I call a behemoth, an empire, to just try to protect our people. But there becomes a point where we have to go in the offense, right?   We can defense all we like, but you're not going to win the Super Bowl unless you got an offense, okay? So now we are going to engage upon a strategy to protect palliative care. In the courts, we will go to the government and ask for palliative care to be enshrined in the Canada Health Act.   And this is very, very important. We need palliative care to be enshrined in the Canada Health Act as an essential service, so that it can be covered by insurance. Because that's what all this is.   Canada Health Care is insurance, right? You're going to pay the provinces to give health care, as opposed to us going in and paying privately on our own. So we need to see that the table is what we need.   And that is going to be the next frontier for the Delta Hospice Society.   [Will Dove] Good. Now, just before we move on, the Guardian Angels program, people can request a Guardian Angel or volunteer to be one. Is that also at deltahospicesociety.org?   [Angelina Ireland] Yes, it is.   [Will Dove] Okay, very good.   [Angelina Ireland] Yes, it is.   [Will Dove] So I wanted to finish up with this because we've talked a lot about the MAID versus the palliative care. But there's a lot of people who probably don't really know what good palliative care looks like. So I'm going to volunteer myself as an example.   Let's say that eight years ago, my cancer treatment hadn't worked. Now I've got stage four cancer throughout my body. I've got six to eight months to live.   I've got a wife and two teenagers who would like to have dad around for as long as they can. What would good palliative care look like in that case?   [Angelina Ireland] Yeah, I mean, and it has been proven that good health care, good palliative care can actually extend your life, right? But talking about a life force here, you know, regardless of what doctors say, oh, you've only previously had two months. Well, they actually don't know how long you have.   That's very complicated, how long you have. Good palliative care comes from diagnosis right through to natural end. Good palliative care includes symptom management.   It includes psychological as well as spiritual support, right? It includes people, not a team, it includes a team. It isn't just the oncologist or the palliative care doctor, okay?   It includes people like your family who become caregivers, your friends, your neighbours, any kind of psychologist that might enter into the picture to help you deal with what it means to go down that journey toward end of life. We're all going to go down that journey. We all will.   None of us are immortal. But it's about, you know, how, right? It's about reconciliation.   Probably most importantly, it's about time. The time to say the things that you need to say, to repair the relationships that you need to repair, to make sure that your family or loved ones are going to be okay when you pass away, right? That they're all right.   I can tell you that MAID causes trauma to family members. That was without a doubt. We have evidence of that.   People who have said they will never get over the fact that their loved one was MAIDed, right? It causes harm to those left behind. Palliative care has a tremendous arsenal when it comes to pain relief.   See, palliative care is a medical discipline. We have our own protocol in terms of pain relief that a normal doctor nurse wouldn't have because it's a specialty medicine. So, you know, we feel as do um every, you know, authentic palliative care organization in this world, authentic palliative care doctors, that it is indeed a gift to humanity.   That to, you know, to just take away with an injection all of the wonderful things that we can do for the person and their family, that's a crime against humanity. So, there's many, many things we can do. It includes many people.   It includes a village. And, you know, again, that is the kind of thing that Canada has been renowned for. That has been stitched into the absolute identity of who we are as a nation.   That is being stripped away and cut out over the past eight years with the kind of government that we've had. I, for one, want to see that returned. I want to see that stitched back into the national identity that we hold dear.   [Will Dove] And I agree. I wanted to ask one last thing, Angelina. And you've talked about this dichotomy where Canada was the country that created good palliative care.   And now we're the number one country in the world for murdering our own citizens. And that's all been since Trudeau's election. Do you think that the blame...   Yeah, it's just a fact. Yes. Do you think the blame can be laid entirely at Trudeau's doorstep?   Or were there other factors that made Canada take this 180-degree turn? How did we get here?   [Angelina Ireland] Well, it's interesting because I think that the liberal government have spoken about palliative care, right? Trudeau himself has spoken about palliative care. He does recognize the benefit that it has.   Unfortunately, MAID is not included in palliative care. Sorry, that's the wrong definition you're using. The rise of the woke mind virus, for sure, has had an impact on what we consider to be moral.   There's that. The more that you involve the state in your everyday life, the growth of government necessarily gives them these incredible powers, powers that they shouldn't have. There's that.   It's been this whole march toward, the state is now god, right? They'll do everything for you. This complete abdication that people have, that they have a responsibility in their own healthcare, their own education.   Don't worry, the government's gonna do everything for you. Well, in that case, this is what they're gonna do for you. They're gonna kill you if they get the chance, right?   This whole march toward just the reliance on government, big government, world government, globalism. There's too many people around, right? Let's get rid of them.   What we're gonna have is, we're gonna have a serious problem with not enough people in the world. But it's a whole ideology, a whole ideology that has euthanasia as one of the killers. So, of course, it's not just their fault because, I mean, look, I don't support any political party, to be honest with you.   I think that if the Conservatives were to get in, I don't think that Pierre and his bunch is gonna let go of the powers they've been given to kill their citizens. I don't believe they'll do that because that's like the Holy Grail. They're not going to give that up.   It has to be the people that demand it. So, how do we get here? Well, more importantly, how do we get out of this mess, right?   We all know how we got here. What are we gonna do about it to change it is really what we should be saying.   [Will Dove] And hopefully these initiatives from your organization are going to go a long way in that direction. Thank you so much for everything that you're doing. Once again, folks, those that do not euthanize defense kits, the Guardian Angels program, that is at deltahospicesociety.org.   And we'll have that up on the screen. We'll have a link beneath this interview. Angelina, thank you again.   [Angelina Ireland] Thank you so much. God bless.