[Will Dove] City councils across Canada have fallen victim to corruption and greed, and almost no one on the inside, even if they have a conscience, also has the courage to speak out. Lisa Robinson is the exception. Elected two years ago to Pickering City Council in Ontario, Lisa recently recorded a press release where she accused the Council of corruption, accepting money to buy their allegiance, silencing their own constituents, and even breaking their own bylaws.   CPAC censored Lisa's press release and refused to post it. Lisa has also been the victim of a concerted persecution campaign by Pickering City Council to attempt to silence her. What Lisa is about to reveal about the Pickering Council is not unique.   Cities across Canada have had their boards stacked by rigged voting and buying off councillors. All of it to go along with the globalist agenda of 15-minute cities, constant surveillance, and severe restrictions of our rights with the goal of taking away our freedom of speech and making us all prisoners in our own homes. But we cannot fight corruption if we don't know what it looks like.   In this interview, Lisa details the corrupt actions of her fellow council members so you will know what to watch for in your own councils. Lisa, thank you so much for taking your time for this interview this morning.   [Lisa Robinson] Thank you so much for having me today here, Will.   [Will Dove] So I've asked you to do this interview because recently you released a video which was on YouTube, should have been on CPAC because it was a political press release, you're a councillor for Pickering. It wasn't on CPAC, they censored it. And the reason, of course, is that you came right out and said that the Pickering City Council is breaking bylaws.   They are doing some very nasty business in terms of how they're dealing with constituents. And I wanted to get the details because I know for a fact it's not just the Pickering City Council where this is happening, it's happening across this country. So if you could give us some details, and I think the thing that really interests me the most is you said they're breaking bylaws.   What are they doing?   [Lisa Robinson] Yeah, they are. They're breaking a lot of their own bylaws. Well, over the last, I'm going to say probably about a year, over the last year, they decided to start implementing all these very draconian bylaws and procedures that need to be followed at our Pickering Municipal Council.   Some of them include, they have changed the delegation from speaking from 10 minutes down to five minutes. So they only have five minutes to speak now per person, which is drastic. You know, what can you really get out in five minutes?   They have also stopped anyone, the ability to record our public meetings in our chambers. That also includes photographs. And the thing that bothers me most about that is that, you know, I have looked through some of the tapes that we have that have been posted on YouTube from Pickering Council meetings and our executive meetings and whatnot.   And I have found instances where there have been time jumps. There has also been white noise through like, you know, really important speeches that are dealing with millions of dollars. And then there's also been a lot of audio manipulation.   So I actually also brought forward to council that, you know what, we should be having a third party record our meetings if they don't want to allow, you know, everyone in our chambers to use their cell phones or whatnot. And of course I was denied that. They said no, they couldn't do that.   So on top of those measures, they have also, you know, disallowed now the media to come in and record, unless of course we have a mover and a seconder to allow them to come in and record the meetings. And then even with that, we still have to have two-thirds votes of council to allow them to stay and record. So somebody like, you know, David Menzies from Rebel News, he was in our council chambers and he was escorted out by the police because I moved that, you know, for him to stay and record our meeting and I couldn't even get a seconder.   So the mayor and the other councillors disagreed with that. So, you know, it's just going to be the media that they approve, basically like the Toronto Star, let's say. They have also disallowed any people from coming in and speaking in our council chambers that live outside of Pickering.   But even though they may live in Durham Region and that we do have four members of council who reside on the Durham Region board, they won't allow anyone from Durham to come in and speak in our chambers as well. And then on top of that, even our own Pickering residents now, before they could speak to something that was not on the agenda with 10 days notice, and now they've gotten rid of that completely. Again, if a Pickering resident wants to come and speak to anything that's not on the agenda, they have to have a mover and a seconder that will approve what the topic is that they want to speak of.   And then we also have to vote, have a vote of two-thirds council. So, you know, we're silencing everybody, not just people from outside of Pickering or the media. We're also silencing our own residents now.   We also brought in stricter trespass rules and regulations, which I like to call the Hurt Feelings Bylaws, because it now gives the City of Pickering the right to trespass anybody that they don't like, basically, if they don't like how they look, if they don't like what they're saying, and that even includes on social media. So if you say some disparaging remarks that they don't find appropriate, that they don't find appropriate because it hurts their feelings, they will turn around and trespass you from all city property. And then they've also raised the limit to try and deter people from, before the trespass used to be $65, now it's up to $650.   So they're doing everything they can to hurt the people, silence them, and also hurt them, like, you know, in their pocketbook to try and deter them. I'm trying to think of what else they have done with that.   [Will Dove] Well, just before we move on, I want to make sure I've got something clear because it sounds incredible, really. But if I'm reading this right, what's happening is if you're a resident of Pickering and you want to bring a concern before city council, you need to have a mover and a seconder to approve that ahead of time. You can't just show up and you're only allowed five minutes to speak.   [Lisa Robinson] Correct. And there's something else I forgot as well is that we had actually also had 15 minutes right at the beginning of a council meeting where anyone from the public could get up and speak, just ask the mayor a question. And if the mayor didn't want to answer it, then he would delegate it to somebody else to speak to it.   It wasn't being utilized very much when they first brought this forward. It was during our summer vacation last year. So there was a few months that it wasn't used.   And then there shortly after, because it wasn't being used, it was under staff's recommendation to get rid of it. And again, if it wasn't being utilized, why would we get rid of it? And then there was one meeting when they were going to put through all these other draconian measures.   And there was over 20 people that came to our chambers that wanted to speak in the question and answer period. And what did our council do? They did a motion immediately as soon as the meeting started to bring that part of the agenda to the very, very beginning to silence all of those people's voices.   And that's what they did.   [Will Dove] So Lisa, that just leads to the very obvious question. What are they hiding?   [Lisa Robinson] Exactly. What are they hiding? They're hiding an awful lot.   I've been doing my best to call out corruption that I've seen. I've had directors and other council members telling me like, don't fill out your statements of disclosure for gifts and benefits that we receive from developers and lobbyist groups and whatnot. And they're hiding an awful lot.   The frivolous spending that's going on, the maneuvering from one bank account to another, the amount of money that they're spending on consultants. It's absolutely crazy. And I'm doing my best to call them out for this.   And that's why they're trying so hard to silence me and silence the people because they're afraid of what the people are saying. Right?   [Will Dove] Yes. And I want to get back to how hard they're trying to silence you a bit later. But you made a fantastic suggestion.   You made it tongue in cheek, but quite honestly, I think it's a great idea that all these millions of dollars of lobby bucks that are going to these counselors, they should be wearing logos.   [Lisa Robinson] They should be just like race car drivers, right?   [Will Dove] Yeah. Race car drivers, athletes do it. If they're funding these people, well, they should have to wear their logo.   They should have to tell the people who's funding them, where are they getting the money from and what's it going through. But of course, they're trying very hard to silence that.   [Lisa Robinson] Yes, they are. They really, really are. And I think it's very, very shameful.   Because if they did have the logos on their jackets, when we get up and we start voting on these big issues or these big developments or whatnot that are coming into Pickering, we would clearly be able to see what is really happening here. Our mayor made a comment because now we have a Porsche racetrack is coming into Pickering because we've got a fabulous casino and now we're going to have a Porsche racetrack. And of course, we are bending our own bylaws, our own signed bylaws for them because we're not allowed to give the upper hand to one company, let's say, over another, right?   And because they're spending $74 million or $75 million on this racetrack, even the mayor said, when I openly said to him, well, what if we give Ford, what if Ford wants to have a street named after them or Volkswagen? And then the mayor openly said, well, if they're willing to spend $74 or $75 million, then they too can have whatever it is that they want. And then even further on went to say that he would probably even name his next child after them for something like that, right?   Because he has a grandchild named Jameson and it's just, it's sickening really what's happening on the rules that we're breaking just for these people. Yeah.   [Will Dove] Now, one thing I absolutely don't want you to do in this interview is to mention any names because obviously I don't want to put you in a position of being accused of slander.   [Lisa Robinson] Of course.   [Will Dove] But without going into that kind of extent, one thing I do know happens on city councils, and I don't know if this is happening on Pickering or not, that's why I'm bringing it up. And the reason this happens is because it's not illegal. Companies give shares to councillors.   And then of course that councillor is motivated to pass bylaws, whatever, that are favorable to that company. Are you aware of anything like that happening in Pickering?   [Lisa Robinson] No, I'm not aware of anything like that happening as of yet, but I'm sure that if that was to happen, they would be keeping it hush hush away from me because they know that I would speak to that point.   [Will Dove] Absolutely. Right. So now let's get back to what they've been, because it seems unfortunately that you're the only ethical councillor on the Pickering Council.   You've been trying to expose the corruption. What are they doing to you to try to silence you?   [Lisa Robinson] Oh, there's a lot that they're doing. They took away my pay for three months last year, so October, November, December, right before Christmas, and made up a whole bunch of lies, let's say, because we can get into what I was doing at the time. And that was, I was trying to bring three draft motions forward.   One of them had to do with only flying governmental flags on all governmental buildings. And the next one had to do with allowing men, women, boy, girl, the choice between using a biological bathroom change room of their choice or to use a universal change room, which would be inclusive of all genders and or families. And then the third draft motion had to do with drag queen story time with pride events.   And I was just trying to put an age restriction limit on those type of events. And of course, they came out and because they didn't even allow me to debate this, nobody would second my motion for me. But because my constituents had asked me to bring these forward, they thought, you know what, they're going to shut me down, silence my voice, which is then in turn going to silence the voice of all my constituents, all the voters.   And so they started attacking me saying I was transphobic, homophobic, making up lies. The integrity commissioner report, actually, they said that I wanted to remove the universal change room, which was completely untrue because you have me on video saying like, you know, that I want to be inclusive of all genders and our families. And they also said that I wanted to remove the city support for any transgender type of activities.   And no, again, it was just putting an age restriction on it. And then as for the flag bylaw, again, they said I was transphobic and homophobic because I didn't want to fly the pride flag or the trans flag. And which would again was completely untrue because I said all flags because I believe in the state of neutrality and I believe that government officials need to be at a state of neutrality based on the Supreme Court law decision of 2015 that we have to be neutral.   So I said all flags. I never once picked out like, you know, a certain flag over another. And I don't believe in creating this hierarchy of beliefs on our flagpoles.   So again, you know, those are the reasons why I was trespassed. I mean, I'm sorry, not while I was trespassed, why they decided they were going to sanction my pay.   [Will Dove] Yes. And I actually remember reporting on that flag incident when it happened. And if I recall correctly, it wasn't just that you at first, you had said, well, look, if we're going to have these trans flags or whatever, we should allow other flags to which they said no.   And if I recall correctly, then your response to that was, well, we should just stick to flags that are representative of all Canadians, not just small groups. Well, they didn't like that either. They want to be able to pick and choose which little interest groups they fly the flags for and reject other ones.   [Lisa Robinson] That's exactly it. And you know what? We are breaking our own flag raising policy bylaws as well, is because we're actually not allowed to fly a flag more than once in a 12 month period.   So we've broken that a few times. We're also not allowed to fly flags that have any kind of controversial, you know, political controversy to them. And we're not allowed to fly any flags that are of ideological beliefs.   So we're breaking all of our own flag raising policy bylaws as well.   [Will Dove] But there's more to your story because I've got a note here about a $200,000 judicial review, a $15,000 sanction. They didn't just dock you three months pay. They're going after you.   [Lisa Robinson] They are going after me. The $15,000 they took away from me last year, like I said, it was October, November, December. And you know, they hit me one right after another for these sanctions and hitting me like I'm a single parent.   I have my own home, you know, I have bills just like everybody else. And so without any warning or anything, they decided they were just going to sanction my pay. And that was my only source of income coming in.   So right before Christmas there, I had zero income coming in for three months. I couldn't pay my mortgage. It was absolutely horrible.   And, you know, they're going to try doing that again. So, you know, I asked them, there was other things they could have done. If they didn't like me bringing forward these motions for my constituents, you know what, we could have had a debate.   They could have said, okay, well, you know what, let's just take a little bit of her pay away every other week until I pay up to like the close to just over $15,000. Or they could have given me volunteer hours. They could have done numerous things, but they decided to go right for the jugular and try and take my pay away to, you know, make me, I almost had to go to the food bank.   It was that bad.   [Will Dove] Wow.   [Lisa Robinson] Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't even do that to my worst enemy. I would never to an enemy, somebody that I really, really hated, no matter what they did, I would never take away their ability to provide for their family or to be able to house themselves.   I thought that was very poor taste. And like, these are the leaders of our municipality. It's completely wrong.   Absolutely zero empathy whatsoever.   [Will Dove] What kind of feedback have you been getting from your constituents?   [Lisa Robinson] My constituents are very, very supportive of me. I mean, everywhere I go, anytime I walk into a shopping mall or a grocery store or something, I always have people coming up to me, giving me the fist pump or shaking my hand, you know, telling me to keep going. I'm getting like thousands of emails from people actually from all across Canada and beyond now saying, you know, thank you very much for standing up Councillor Robinson.   You know, you're giving us a lot of hope. Don't back down. You know, we support you a hundred percent.   The only time I am getting pushed back at this time is there is a Facebook group. It's called Pickering Talks. And you know, there's a couple of haters on that group.   And when I say a couple, I mean, maybe about 12. And if you look at those 12, about half of them are fake Facebook groups, fake Facebook accounts, I should say. And they're going after me hard, you know, calling me racist, homophobic, transphobic, Nazi lover.   Like, you know, any word that there is, they keep on changing my words, manipulating the truth, making up all these lies. I mean, I'm sitting here talking to you. If there's something in your past that, you know, might not be favorable, they'll find it.   And then they'll say, oh my goodness, Councillor Robinson, you know, she's a racist or she's whatever it is that you've done in your past. All of a sudden, that is now affiliated with me and they're going to go after me hard for it. And the next thing you know, I'll have another integrity commission report where they're going to try and sanction my pay.   [Will Dove] No, I'm sorry to inform you that I'm a far right radical extremist. And yes, everything they've accused you of, believe me, I've been accused of the same thing.   [Lisa Robinson] Of course.   [Will Dove] There was one other point. You mentioned an integrity commissioner, but there's some dirty dealing going on with that as well.   [Lisa Robinson] There is a lot of dirty dealings going on with the integrity commissioner. First and foremost, people need to know that the integrity commissioner is only started back in about 2017. And I think they were just put in place as a way to weaponize councils or staff's way that the councils think to make sure that they fall in line and, you know, they become a yes nodder.   Right. And the integrity commissioner, I find is extremely biased towards me. They're also paid by the city.   So, I mean, there is a biasness there already because they are going to do whatever the city says or does or whatever the head of council, which would be the mayor, says or does. And that's what they're going to push. And that's what they have been pushing against me the whole entire time.   [Will Dove] I just want to clarify this for the viewers before you go on. Folks, if you're paying attention here, the integrity commissioner who's supposed to be watchdogging the city council is hired and paid by the city council.   [Lisa Robinson] Correct. Yes. Yeah.   There they are. So, you know, it's one that, you know, I just can't seem to win against them. And, you know, she is very biased because when I actually met her in person, she actually called me a cis woman.   I was like, what? I'm not a cis woman. What is a cis woman?   I'm not a cis woman. I'm just a woman. I'm councillor Lisa Robinson.   You know, I've been a woman all my life. What is this new term you're throwing on me? I am cis nothing.   I am a woman. Right.   [Will Dove] And isn't it interesting that the woke, the trans folks, they tell us that we have to use certain terms for them, that the terms that we would want to use, they're not acceptable, but it's perfectly okay for them to apply new terms to us.   [Lisa Robinson] Yes. Yes. And I don't want any terms on me.   No, I'm just, I'm just a woman. That's what I am. I was a girl growing up.   Now I'm a woman. Also with the integrity commissioner, if you could, you could go back and watch some of our meetings where they're actually doing the sanctioning and they're going to vote. And I started asking the integrity commissioner some questions.   And some of them were as easy as this. I would say, could you please tell me if the councillors that put this report in against me, were they present the day that I was speaking of my three draft motions outside of the Durham district school board? And she couldn't answer the question.   She couldn't answer it. So she's like, oh, you know, councillor Robinson, I'm not going to get into the report. It's all in the report.   And I'm like, actually, it's not in the report. Could you please tell me where any of these people that put in the report against me, were they even present to hear my speech? And all of a sudden the mayor had to jump in and he says, councillor Robinson, that question's already been asked.   And she's already said that no, she did not, that no, that they were not there. And I'm like, no, she never answered the question, Mr. Mayor, but you just told her that. So, you know, that a full investigation was not done.   And I had so many people on the list. I'm like, you know, investigate this. And right there in my motions, not once do I mention a pride flag or removal of universal washrooms, anything, I have it written, I have videos.   And yet all these lies came through from the integrity commissioner saying that I have traits of homophobe and transphobe and everything else. And that's why I'm taking them now to the judicial review, which is actually coming up tomorrow. And yes, they are willing to spend up to $200,000 of taxpayers' money instead of giving me back the $15,000 plus that they took from me for this.   [Will Dove] Wow.   [Lisa Robinson] Right?   [Will Dove] Lisa, it's very saddening because these are the people who are supposed to be running our cities. They're supposed to be responsible adults. They're behaving like little children.   If you do something or say something they don't like, rather than having a mature debate with you on it, they just resort to name-calling. And I'm curious, how long have you been a counselor? How long have you been witnessing this behavior?   [Lisa Robinson] This is my first term in council. And I've got until 2026 to go, October 2026. But it pretty much happened right off the bat when I started not playing their game, let's say, of this political chessboard and not becoming a yes-nodder and started speaking out.   Because when I'm at council meetings, I ask a lot of questions because I really do my thorough research on every single agenda item that is coming before council. And I'll ask the staff questions or council questions, and they can't answer these questions. But then they turn around and they vote to pass that agenda item.   And so there's been a lot of 6-1 votes because I'm not comfortable in just passing agenda items where we don't have the correct answers or we don't have any answers at all. And a lot of it has to do with the safety of the people of Pickering. And so once I started doing that, that's when I started seeing the attitudes change, you know.   And you mentioned about the sandbox and about them being children. This is true because then what happened was they started cropping me out of photos from events that we all attended together. I was doing this homeless drive, not a homeless drive, but a food drive for our shelter, a food shelter.   And they would take my name off of it, and I was the one that actually created it. I mean, they play all these psychological games against me now as well. And I've even been threatened.   I've been sexually harassed. Like there's a lot going on. Like one of the counsellors said to me, you know, I could stick a knife in your back and you would never know until I was getting ready to pull it out.   He said I could slowly twist it and you would never know until I was getting ready to pull it out. And that threat is out there. The integrity commissioner refused to investigate it.   My counsel refuses to investigate it. And even though on a video now we have the same counsellor saying that he would like to sharpen his sword and decapitate the mother bleep, you could fill in the word. And that was in regards to the mayor.   This counsellor gets away with doing all of this stuff and I can't even talk about like, you know, having neutral flags on the buildings without being sanctioned. So you can see the biasness that's going on, like, you know, not only with our integrity commissioner and any time now that I bring something forward to the integrity commissioner, like, for example, our mayor has openly called people racist, Nazis, transphobes, and whether it be in a council meeting, he's actually on a hot mic said you should be proud, Councillor Robinson, for the nut cases that you bring in here on social media.   He calls people Nazis. He tells them when they get started being lippy with him or don't like what he has to say. He's like, oh, go have another drink as if they're drunk or something like that.   And any of these issues that not only myself, but the public are bringing forward to the integrity commissioner, they're all being just put on the side and saying, no, they're not going to investigate it. So it clearly shows the biasness. And even at our own September 3rd meeting that we just had, I now have the mayor openly saying that he is biased towards me and that he doesn't want to hear anything that I have to say.   [Will Dove] Wow. Lisa, you're clearly a very tough and determined person, but nobody's bulletproof. This has got to be affecting you and your family.   How old are your children?   [Lisa Robinson] My son's 15 years of age.   [Will Dove] And you're having to deal with all of this while raising your son by yourself, being attacked by the fellow counselors. It's got to be incredibly difficult.   [Lisa Robinson] It is. It is difficult, but I have a couple of mechanisms in place. I have a certain song that I play every day before I walk into council chambers to make sure that I have my armor on, let's say.   And I have a lot of people that call me up and they give me so much praise. It's the people, the emails that I get on a daily basis. Every time I feel like getting down or feeling down or getting ready to throw on the table, I just think about the towel.   I just think about all these people that are counting on me, who are standing there behind me, who want me to be their voice. And I'm not going to stop. So they can keep on throwing all these sanctions towards me, but I'm not going to stop.   I will never give in to these people. I'm not going to give them a satisfaction because they do not define who I am. And because I am not going to tow the party line of what they want me to do.   I'm not ready to political posture. So I'm going to stand strong, but it's because of all the great support that I have behind me that it keeps me going. It is difficult.   My son really has not been affected too much from this. I try and keep him sheltered from it. But I mean, there's some people that like to attack and start bringing him into it.   And the integrity commissioner was actually one of them because I asked her to leave him out of a report. And she refused to do so.   [Will Dove] So wait a minute. I'm sorry. The integrity commissioner named your son in a report?   [Lisa Robinson] She didn't name him by name, but she talked about the school that he went to and where he would be attending. She did.   [Will Dove] Yes. Well, I'm no lawyer, but that sounds like possibly endangering a child to me.   [Lisa Robinson] Well, I would think so as well. And I even said to her, like, can you please redact some of this stuff about my child? And she refused to.   [Will Dove] Wow. So Lisa, I have to kind of finish with this question. I live in Calgary.   As you know, our own city council here is at least as corrupt as yours. Our mayor is absolutely terrible. And the question that I know goes through the minds of many people is how in the world do these people get elected?   Do you have any insights on that? Because if the world made any sense, all of our councils are people like you, but they're not. They're self-interested children who are in it for what they can get.   They don't give a crap about their constituents. And it's very clear from the way they behave. How does somebody like that get elected?   [Lisa Robinson] Well, you know, it's basically name recognition. You know, some of these career politicians, let's say, they just put their name on it and then, you know, it becomes a name recognition type thing. And a lot of times, like, you know, these people that do get elected, it's really, really hard because they lie to people at the doors all the time.   You know, knock, knock, knock on the door. You hear what the constituent has to say. And all of a sudden, like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.   You know, I'm for that, too. But then the next door, they knock on it and it can be completely opposite of the last door. But of course, they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.   You know, I'm all for that, too. It's not until they actually get elected and they're now like, you know, in the eyes of everybody. Can people actually find out who they really are?   I mean, when I ran in the election, everyone knew who I was. They knew that I was for family, faith, freedom. Everybody knew when I got elected exactly what I stood for.   And I told everybody that, you know, I'm not going to political posture. I'm not going to do anything like that. But when I first did get elected, my first thing with the CEO, when I went into a meeting with her, one of the first things I said was, you know, in my opinion, you know, as an outsider looking in, it sure seems like that the city of Pickering cares more about the developers than they do the people.   And my response from the CEO was this. Oh, Councillor Robinson, with all due respect, you are no longer an outsider looking in. That was the response I got.   Nothing in regards to what I said. So then I said, okay, you know what, let me rephrase this correctly. As a newly elected official, in my opinion, it sure seems like, you know, the city of Pickering cares more about the developers than they do the actual people of Pickering.   And then it was crickets. I got nothing. And then even from my own fellow councillors, they're like, oh, great.   You know what? You finally got elected. Now keep your head down and start working on your next election.   Don't get into anything that's too controversial. Now you need to start working so you can get reelected again. And so that's all it is.   It just has to do with being a job to them. I'm not going to say it's a difficult job because, you know, at Pickering, it's not like a full-time job. A lot of the councillors there, they do have other jobs, maybe even full-time jobs.   It's not like the city of Toronto where, you know, you have a greater population. And, you know, that's all they care about is being reelected. And that's why nobody's willing to put their neck on the line.   Even if I did have support on council, they see what happens to me and they're not going to speak up. They're using me as a deterrent from anybody else from speaking up and also the people from speaking up. I mean, I have a lot of people that send me emails, phone calls, you know, and they say, Lisa, don't stop.   I wish I could do something. But the moment that they do, these people are going to target them at their jobs. They're going to call them names and they're going to be canceled.   And a lot of people are afraid of being canceled. Well, you know what? I don't care.   Try and cancel me all you want, but I am not going to stop talking. Call me names. My mom told me at an early age, you know, sticks and stones kind of type thing, so I don't care what you call me.   It's not going to make me stop talking or speaking the truth because I have integrity. I have morals and I am not going to compromise anything of myself to cater to people that behave and act like this.   [Will Dove] Well, that's something we have in common. I've been speaking the truth now for several years and I've more than once made the comment that the only way they're going to shut me up is to kill me. However, it is a reality that there's a lot of people who either by their nature or their situation feel that they just can't afford to speak out because as you say, there'll be canceled, there'll be repercussions.   So let's address something of a practical step because there are, fortunately, other people like you who would run for office, people who will say the truth, people who will stand up for their constituents. How can the constituents who themselves feel like, well, I can't speak out because I can't handle the repercussions, but how can they support those people in a practical sense? Help them get into office because it is making a difference.   There is a shift happening in this country. We went way far to the left, but it's coming back. Witness what's happening in BC with John Rustad's conservative party, which has two seats and yet the polls say might very well win the upcoming election this fall in BC, which would be just mind-blowing to have the most leftist province in this country suddenly move to a conservative government.   It's happening. The candidates are there. So what can constituents do to support people like you when you're running for office to hopefully see more conservatives, people who actually care about their constituents get in?   [Lisa Robinson] Well, they're going to have to do the research first and foremost. I say that because I've actually seen people that are running here in Pickering now for the federal election who, in my opinion, are liberals, let's say, and they are pretending to be a conservative. So much that even when they put up their websites and everything else, it's got red backgrounds behind it.   It's like, okay, wait a minute, you know what? And somebody makes a comment, so then they switch it to blue, but you know exactly where they stand. And I say you have to do your research because there's a lot of people right now who are running in federal elections, they're going to be running in provincial elections, but where have they been over these last four years speaking?   They haven't been. Where are they standing up behind me and standing up for me? They're not there.   So you really have to do your research. It's like, if I was to run in the federal election, you know I'm a true conservative. Everybody here in Pickering and beyond knows I'm a true conservative, which would make me the best candidate, but there must be 12 people looking for the nomination here in Pickering and not one of them have raised their voice about any of these concerns that the parents are having or anyone in Pickering for that matter that they're having.   So everyone needs to do the research on the candidate and then once they find the candidate that they like, there's so much they can do. They can do websites, they can help do emails, they can help go door to door door knocking, they can help hand out literature. If they're unable to do that because like any kind of a disability, then they can get on the phones or like I said, they could they could create anything that they can that would help get that candidate noticed.   Or if they're financially available, you know what, they can donate to the campaigns and help pay for the signs and the literature because it is quite costly. But there is something that everybody can do no matter what their skill set level, no matter if they have disabilities or not, there is something for everybody. So if they're afraid of being in the limelight, there's a lot they can do behind the scenes and it would be so greatly appreciated and every candidate would be so greatly appreciated to have that support behind them because it is a lot and I mean, I can't do everything on my own.   I need a team and I mean, I have a few people behind me. I have a lot of people that will support me but even you know, trying to get my videos and stuff out right now, you know, I have a very small team that's doing it and that's all we can ask for is just to get, you know, people in the background to help. Like a world of a difference, world of a difference.   [Will Dove] It would. Lisa, normally I would thank someone like you for their courage but listening to you speak, I realized you have the same view of this that I do. It's not courage, it's integrity.   So I want to thank you for your integrity because unfortunately, it's in very short supply these days.   [Lisa Robinson] Thank you and I really applaud you for your integrity as well. Absolutely, there's a lot of us out there, there really is, you know. Every day I see more and more people that are standing up and I mean, it's never too late, right?   So anybody, you know, if they just really, really think about what's happening these days and they really think about how it is that they can help and I mean, I know a lot of people have integrity, a lot of people have the morals, they have the exact same views that we do and you know, sometimes it just takes people a little bit longer than the others and that's okay because it is turning. I mean, we have now become the majority, we're no longer the minority, we are the majority now and I see, I see that way of changing and you know, you can call me as far as alt-right as you want but it's not. It's just that the pendulum has swung so far to the left, I want to call them the alt-left now and it's just coming back to the middle and that's where it should be because honestly, I really don't care if you're left, if you're right, if you're red or if you're blue, we're all human and you know, we need to start supporting one another in times like these because we're heading into very dark times right now, we've seen everything changing and yeah, we just need to support people and humanity and just get back to those integrity and morals that you know, we all used to hold so dear to our hearts, our family values, our traditions.   [Will Dove] I would say that we were always the majority, we were just silent and passive and that's what we need to change.   [Lisa Robinson] Yeah, agreed, agreed. I'm happy now that we're starting to be more vocal.   [Will Dove] Yes and it is picking up speed and the more people who stand up, the more people who speak out, the more people will join them and we'll stop being the silent majority and we'll take back our country.   [Lisa Robinson] Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, that's like you know, my CPAC video which they decided to censor on me. They let one video go through, they censored my second one and I'm going to go back to CPAC again in the next couple of weeks and I'm going to do another video and we'll see what happens then but yeah, I'm still not even sure why they censored it.   I mean, I know I did call out a bunch of politicians at all levels of government, not only at municipal but at the provincial and at the federal level as well. You know, I talked about the newspapers and how journalists are not doing their jobs these days and you know how very disappointing that is. So if anyone can get a chance to watch that, it's on my YouTube video, you can see most of it but you know, I might just go back and do the same speech again and see if they censor it again or if they don't because for some reason, people just don't seem to like the truth right now.   It gets a lot of people angry but we have to get back to that. We got to be able to start having these adult conversations again. I mean, I'm okay.   I mean, not everybody has to agree with everything that I have to say but you know what, you don't have to hate on me and call me names. We can always agree to disagree.   [Will Dove] Yes, absolutely. Lisa, thank you so much for your time this morning.   [Lisa Robinson] Thank you.