Will Dove 0:06 I have with me today on my studio, Mahmoud Mourra, who is the organizer of the Million March 4 Children, a man who has succeeded in uniting people of all faiths and beliefs in opposition to the sexual orientation and gender identity ideology being taught in our schools. Mahmoud, it is a pleasure to have you here. Mahmoud Mourra 0:24 Thank you for having me. I really appreciate that you invite me to sit here. Will Dove 0:27 Now it is fortuitous because I ran into you at the March this past week. And I've been trying to track you down for a while because you've actually been organizing marches. This isn't by any means the first one. You've been organizing marches in Calgary now for several months. What was the trigger for that? What got you going on that? Mahmoud Mourra 0:45 Well, God has gone in on that. I'll tell you what happened to Josh Alexander, the Christian kids. Will Dove 0:52 Yes. Will Dove 0:53 Spoke at our school, getting charged. What happened to Derek Reimer, a street pastor who decided to take a stand against what's going on in the public library, from getting them to watch drag queen show, two to eight years old, stuff, all this was accumulating. And I'm gonna say, yes, some of the leaders failed our Christian people, our Christian people aren't coward, our older Canadian aren't coward, but the leadership, even the Muslim leadership failed us. So we decided to take stand to deliver a higher voice when that challenge came close to us as Muslims. Because one of the Muslim kid in Edmonton school faced a brutality, a degrade by a teacher when he decided not to come, not him decided, his parent decided not to send them to school that day. Regardless what the parents decide to tell their children or what to teach theirs to children, no teacher have the right to come and degrade a student in front of his fellow, friend in the class and tell them you cannot become a Canadian. You're not Canadian, if you don't do 1 2 3. What about the freedom of choice. And this we felt this is absolutely not right. Not acceptable. We call for a protest in Calgary, leave our kids alone. And the God, Canadian from all faiths, race, from every corner stood behind us, support us. We have 100,000 Muslim in Calgary, but I'll tell you one thing. In the protest, I felt we're a million because all Canadian came to support us that bad Will Dove 2:16 Yes. Yes. And there is a recording of that teacher harassing that student. We're going to insert that here. So you can share it? Audio Clip 2:23 Well, I'll tell you, you were out to lunch, if you think it's accept... accept... acceptable to not show up because you think that there's some pride activities going on at school? Right? Oh, that's fine. You know, because I'm going to show my opinion by hanging out at the mall. But meanwhile, all those kids who are, you know, involved in, say, the Patriot Alliance or whatever, I don't even know if we have that anymore in our school. They're here, when we did Ramadan for lying time. And they're showing respect to the class, for your religion, right, for your beliefs. It goes two ways, if you want to be respected for who you are, if you don't want to suffer prejudice for your religion, your color, skin, your whatever, then you better give back to people who are different from you. That's how it works. It's an exchange. And it isn't like that in all countries. As I told you, in Uganda, literally, if you, they think your gay, they will execute you. If you believe that kind of thing, then you don't belong here. Because that is not what Canada believes. We believe in freedom. We believe that people can marry whoever they want. That is in the law. And if you don't think that should be the law, you can't be Canadian, you don't belong here and I mean it. I really mean it. And it's not a joke, [name], I could, back and forth, you want it you got to give it. And I, it just makes me angry. Sorry [unintelligible] Will Dove 4:04 Now, from there, I mean, I'm actually very, very impressed at your organizational skills, because as far as I knew, you've only been doing marches for a few months, and here you've organized this massive Million March 4 Children all across Canada. What kind of organizational challenges did you run into, and the one thing I can think of is that here in Calgary, when we do marches there's only certain places where City Hall and the police will allow us to congregate. So you're gonna have to organize that in about 100 different locations across the country. Mahmoud Mourra 4:31 So, like, we have a team of people who's working. First I don't want to take all the credit. I'm one of the people who, Calgary was, we're proud, will be the first city to ignite the protest against the nation Canadian nature. And now I could see in UK all over the universe, people rallying for the same cause to isolate this LGBTQ plus ideology from minor kids, a school program and curriculum. Muslim communities are united. They're connected around the the country and then a brother of mine, his name can't be shared, he decided to call for the 1 million march, we jumped all in the wagon. And luckily Canadian from all faiths from all race started calling us, working together. And you know, takes a government effort to put this into, into order, into place. And as much as the mainstream media trying to lie to tell nothing happened, I guarantee you, people raised their voice, 1000s and 1000s, 1000s of Canadians took to the street, and we relied on a lot of volunteer, a lot of effort in the background. Yes, I might be speaking, [unintelligible] may be speaking, or my other sister, a lot of people talking, but we are just the front people to see what's in people's mind. But we have the support from every corner, from all faiths from all race to stand and deliver that strong message to the politicians, to the leadership of this country, decision makers. Our kids are the future of this country, and they must be left alone to decide and determine what they wanted to do once they are older, once they are mature enough and old enough to know what's right and what's wrong, and to make the decisions they could change at any time. They want not irreversible decisions they got forced to do while they are minor age or influenced by a teacher or by anyone in their environment at that young age. Will Dove 6:19 Now we had 1000s here in Calgary. And despite mainstream media trying to say there was a few 100, there were 1000s of us there. Do you have any kind of count, at this point in time, for across the country, about approximately how many people? Mahmoud Mourra 6:30 We couldn't get the exact number. All I could tell you in one city only in one city, we were like outnumbered a little bit by the counter protest, it was in Vancouver, but I shouldn't be calling them counter protest. We have all the devils united we have all the enemy packing up together, we have the union, packing up together was what they call counter protests, some of the LGBT because I want to tell not all the LGBT people community are against us. Some of the gay and lesbian people are with us, are victim of these people who are trying to hijack their movement and their community. And I have a friend who are gays, and called me and they told me about many incidents and stuff and just tried to clarify some of the hate messages [unintelligible] tried to attach us to, or link us to. So yes. And we have everybody. So I'm so happy for the union to come out publicly. It was a union job supposed to be defending workers, their congregation against government or employers what they're doing to their employee, for them to come out and stand against us concerned parent and they are in pro position to sexualize our kids, confuse our kids. This made us sincere about what's going on. As the biggest evidence what Alberta Teachers Association, Alberta took a stand against the parent as they're trying to implement ideologies all Canadian on Alberta, under what Yes, maybe the number won't be exact, I'll tell you. But the biggest number we have that a lot of the kids didn't attend the school. And what the reaction came from the Board of Education do not show the absolute number of the kid but I can tell you, like Medina School literally 10% of the kids showed up even Islamic private school is to understand with private school 367 kids were and I tell you out of 800 School 800 students, only 100 kids showed up. So our message was coming across and people comprehend that and got it. And just as a role to get bigger, just a snowball, we're not going to stop here. Protest was an eye opener, brought us together. You call.. they call you far right, they call me minority or fringe left or whatever, we keep together for one call. First for you to shed the light was the mainstream media failed us as Canadian, regardless from which corner you are. And second thing, we build the bridges. The biggest success. You and I are talking, you and I were determining those enemy out there who wanted to take our kids away from us, want to poison our society and our community as they are feeding the division. And now the worst division they are feeding in our society and our community, a division between the parent and their kids. Will Dove 9:17 Yes. Mahmoud Mourra 9:17 And this is the worst division and we must stand our line and defend our kids because they are our choice and we are there to protect our kids, not to abuse any any anyone. Will Dove 9:29 And you've managed to pull together Muslims, as I said earlier, Christians, people who have perhaps no faith, but we're all united in defending our children. And I know that you've undoubtedly talked to a lot of parents. What kind of comments are you getting? Mahmoud Mourra 9:45 Parent, I'm gonna tell you first of all, as an immigrant, over 200 families left Calgary, who was really concerned about their kids. So this is happening. And I heard some Canadian move into [unintelligible] says over 142 laws as they took place in that last year to protect family values. And some other people like myself, I call this country heaven. And I'm willing to die for it. And I will defend every possible way I can. But my main priority are my kids. A lot of parents are angry, a lot of parents are disgusted by the comment sir Prime Minister made when he called us haters directly. When he called us bad names. We are concerned citizen, we are Canadian like him. Some of us are more patriotic and love this country more than he does. So we need to tell him that comment he made, you need to pay the price for it. He failed the Canadian in many, many level. First thing I want to tell my Muslim brothers and sister when you guys were happy when you heard what happened to the truckers, some of the, you, or those minorities. And when he called the fringe minority and it can't happening to you now. He's calling you uncontrolled people, bunch of thugs. This is a prime minister we have for Canada, he's name calling his people based on a political acquisition, because they don't agree with his view. He disregard the house housing crisis we have he disregard all the financial stress we have as Canadian, the [unintelligible] bill, all the challenges we have. And just he's fighting us because we are taking a stand to protect and preserve the right of us parent, because we are the first government in our kids life to learn how to obey and to follow rules and stuff as they want us to divide that data between me and my son, teach my son do not tell your dad, do not tell your parent. And that's where they fail. Because when you learn to lie to me, tomorrow who will lie to you. But when my son lied to me, and he's in trouble, I'll be there for him, but when he lies to the system, and he's trouble, he'd be in jail. And sometime he might lose his soul. Because we need to stop this. And we need to protect the existence and the future of this country, which is our case, Will Dove 12:09 Aside from the clear statistics of the harms are caused by transgender surgeries I'm gonna talk about specifically at this point and the fact that we know that the teens who transition, they have a 16 times higher suicide rate than the background population. Clearly, this is causing severe mental harms to them. And that brings me to the other kids, the ones who don't necessarily transition. But now they want to identify as a different gender, they want to go by a different name, a different pronoun, and you made reference to this earlier that they're trying to divide children from their parents. What do you think is the purpose of that agenda? Really? Mahmoud Mourra 12:45 You know what? I'm gonna tell you example. And I hope this one won't be taken out of context. First of all, do you believe in brainwashing? Will Dove 12:59 Absolutely. Mahmoud Mourra 13:00 I was one of the victim. I grew up in a country, it's called Lebanon. In school, we had the war against Israel, and Israel, they're Jewish people. They didn't teach us in school at that time, like I was born 1973. I learned in school if you kill a Jewish person, I'll go to heaven. I grew up with this idea. When I land in Montreal 2001, first time myself personally meeting a Jewish person. I felt if I killed this guy, am I really going to heaven? And I was 27 years old. That implement they told me, my teacher, that environment, what they told me when I was like 10 or 8. 1982. How old was I? When the.. Lebanon was invaded by the Israeli, I was maybe 11 years old. Certainly grew up in my mind, these people, Jewish, these people should be killed, this [unintelligible], these people, just, that's what brainwashing does to kids. And I'm an adult, and it's still sitting in the back of my head. Luckily, I was able to meet Jewish person. Talk to them. And I find, oh, I found out they are flesh, they are human being. They think what I think, they cry when they're sad, they're happy, they're not monster, they're not from like different universe. And yes, brainwashing do exist. And for those transgender I want to tell something based on my belief. I believe God does not make a mistake. The first thing for those kids is to accept yourself. Even though was the system and they tried to tell him think of what you want to be he instead of she or she instead of he or it or whatever. How long could you live with that? Let's say I could change my pronouns. But then God, this is something reversible anytime. I could say okay, I'm not he anymore. I'm I'm she. But when they start getting organ, cutting organ out of the body, or giving some a puberty stopper, testosterone and stuff like this? Well, how far could that last? And if let's, let's, let's talk about it. Age is pain. What about like, if a normal healthy person, when he's 50, he's gonna start falling apart, this normal thing, your teeth got going gap in between, doesn't matter how much, like I could see you're muscular, you work in the gym, I picture you take care of yourself, but still at the end, age is pain, you're going to have a buffet of medicine to take to choose which one to take, there's no option, you have to choose what happened to those transgender, when they get to 40 and 50. This one the pressure is going to hit, it's going to hit double. If I'm normal human being I'm going to have kidney stone. And I have like my fatigue, I'm getting older, I'm gonna start having all this differences difficulties with health, what happen to them with all that stuff they've been injecting themselves for the past 10 or 15 years [unintelligible], they're going to face that reality, they're going to know when your skin starts stretching out not because you're just getting older, but all that garbage you've been taking, you got to look at yourself, you gonna see a beast, you're not going to see a human being anymore. And I don't care as much as they say data does lie. And numbers do lie. Once that number been written by a liar, they will lie. Once the data been entered by someone who's a hypocrite and that doesn't tell you the real numbers or the real data. They do lie. And I'll tell you they say the suicider or you'd rather have that boy or that transgender girl. I'll be honest with you, that girl the second she committed to transgender, she killed herself. If not today, tomorrow, if not tomorrow, the day after, because it destroyed her. But with all due respect, I'm not saying this based on hate, I respect their choice. I don't agree with it. If my son decided to do it, and I'll tell you this, based on experience, not even one parent, maybe few as they have psychopaths, they accept that as they say we're proud of it, maybe. But if one parent will be happy when his son faces that challenge, or a daughter, and I know this because a lot of my friends, I know my next door neighbor, he's a transgender male after having three kids decide to become a woman. And I know everybody accepted, but deep down only talk conversation one to one, so not happy about it. So no one. And if it happened to my son, I'll stand beside him, I'll support it. But when I could go to my room, I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna be sad about it. And I'll be honest with you, it's a wound in my heart to the day give my lot of rest to God. Because this is not what we want. Our kids want the best thing for our kids. If that's their choice, I'm not going to be happy about it. I'll support them, I'll stand beside them, since they don't care about our kids, your kid or your my daughter, just a file. As that's how they look at it. They tried to advertise pharmacies, doctors, is just as long as they are destroying our communities in our country. And if they don't stand to defend and protect their kids, they will take our right away. What they gave us at Saskatchewan, and Ontario and New Brunswick, say give us what's ours. This is our right in the first place. You cannot give me what's mine. Totally be happy about it. It's my right. Yes, that's all I could tell you. Will Dove 18:25 And you made reference a few minutes ago to how they're lying to our children. And the lie of belief that they're telling, because we had, most of us remember being teenagers, all of us felt out of place as teenagers with your children to figure out who you are and where you fit in in the world. And so what they're doing is taking advantage of that, they're hijacking it and they're saying to these kids, what if you just transition, if you just become a different gender now you'll feel like you fit in? What are your thoughts on that? Mahmoud Mourra 18:52 I've got to tell each and every one who could listen to my voice, the only place you could fit in is with your family at or where people could accept you. Those keyboard pusher or once a teacher tells you come out out of the box clap their hands for 15 minutes. That exam exact same teacher. She clapped her hands for many people like you after. And you come back two years after to her to talk to her. She might recognize your face, but I'm pretty sure she'll forget your name. They don't care about our kids. They're saying yes to our kids, will do this for you stuff but they don't know they are destroying our children. To support our kids... how many times you and I if we grow up had issues your brother and you wish your brother dead. I did. Like I was young. My dad... my brother took my toy. My dad took me hunting, I love hunting, and one time they want to punch me and he took my gun away from me because I didn't do good at school. At that moment. I went to my room, cried in a wish I didn't have my dad, I wanted my gun. So maybe if one of those teacher comes to me at that moment and asked me what do you want, I would have told her yeah, get rid of my dad. I want my gun. Because I don't see the further distance I used to see now. Like now I see way wider. Maybe my eyes get weaker when I needed glasses, but the experience let me see the environment. For those guys I wish them teachers before they come and start injecting this ideology and mentality into our kids mind comprehend, understand what's the reason for that kids to come to you? Maybe needed attention? Maybe it's that kid's like somehow was bullied in his environment. And he felt one day person come in everybody clapping for him in the class and stuff. Oh, wow. If I recall myself again, I'm like, come on, I'd be like this guy favorite now popular, every teacher's got to hug me and stuff. He'll do it just to seek attention. But the reality is just just momentarily thing to have when you leave those people you're going to go back call to face reality. And that propaganda they keep telling me kids not accepted by their parents or by normal proponents normal human beings and they are the majority will accept their kids no matter what. There is exception who might be some parents need help, 'cause there are abusers of kids, but you cannot treat us all the same. Because there's one or 2% of the parent or abusers or one or 2% of the parents do not understand what kind of challenge those kids is having. So you cannot paint with a brush everybody in the same same as me. I cannot go to the school and tell every LGBT teacher is a devil. I cannot say that. Some of them aren't human being, something I cannot deny. Bias, like, to be biased, that's something inside, we cannot take it away. There's no cure. That's a feeling, same as the hate they say I feel. Like I can't hate, I can't love something. Can't control as there's no press button stop it, it's something that's inside. All we can do control our emotion. I cannot show it. I respect the creatures. I respect the human being, I respect every person, even though if we don't agree with their choice. But for our kids, sometime we cannot agree with their choice at minor age, till they see the picture properly. And I'll tell you what, is that age restriction, I believe, just a trick to take away that banner for pedophile and predators to comes after us. And look tomorrow now we're coming with this thing, the new terminology. They call it mature minor. Will Dove 22:26 Yes. Mahmoud Mourra 22:26 So no more 18, no more 60. Will Dove 22:28 And by the way, folks, as as I reported on, very recently, in one of my news reports, according to the Canadian Pediatric Society, there is no set age, for a mature minor in this country. They define it as a minor who they believe is capable of making their own decisions, which means if they get away with passing this mature minor legislation, and in this particular case I'm talking about MAiD but it would apply to this as well. They can then come along and arbitrarily set any age they want. And say okay, if the kid's 14, they can they can go to the school counselor. And they can say I want transition surgery. And he's mature minor. And it's going to happen and the parents aren't going to be involved and how did he know Mahmoud Mourra 23:10 Well, I had heard that March 2024, because MAiD was passed under the Prime Minister of Canada in 2016 Will Dove 23:18 Yes Mahmoud Mourra 23:19 Literally he passed. And then which is to call it suicide. I don't care what you call it. To me. There's no MAiD, you cannot kill me or prescribe for me a shot to kill me. And what kind of organ should I donate. Or... it doesn't make sense. Which is like regardless what you believe or you do not believe this is different topic. But to make mature minor, for kids, and like you said, there's no age restriction. Now they're talking about life and deaths. Tomorrow, you're 50 years old man, you could be with a relation was a boy was like 12 years old. Because this boy is a mature minor, or 14 years old, or same thing for girls. Or maybe if we're heterosexual like straight people. I'm 50 years old guy and also the [unintelligible] relation was 13 years old girl because she's mature minor. And I believe because there's a lot of these criminal out there, mind our kids they want to cover their sense and that's the best thing to tell them to do. To make Allah fit their interest protect them. And some freedoms is that God's children out for sale. These people they want to take our kids as a slave. We have a slavery in this era in a different shape and form. Back in the old days, maybe they used to chain people with a chain. Now their chain is with a lawsuit, with many bylaws. Look what happens to this Calgary, many things. We're all chained somehow with a hidden chain and you cannot break it away. Thanks to you, and many of you who's trying to break that spell. Stand up for what we believe and be the other option to deliver our voice and fight for our freedoms. Like for my Muslim brothers and sister, what happened in 2021-22, when the Freedom Fighter movements are finding that the vaccine or stuff wasn't just a vaccine. It's a principle of the principle personal choice. We want to get vaccinated or don't want to get vaccinated. I was worried if the army's gonna come to my house and force me to get that vaccine shot. Honestly I was worried about it. And this is what's got will happen here. We keep talking about freedom. All I see is a freedom just the word the written in a book we have no freedom. We have oppression, we have brutality, we have [unintelligible] adds up. Prime Minister he needs to pay the price. What he said this Wednesday, us, to us as if we're haters. I can't believe Canadian ignored, I can't believe Canadian didn't even pay attention to it. We are concerned parents. And he came right after the union and after everybody to come. And paint us with the brush, the worst brush you could paint someone when you call someone hater? That's you've given yourself excuse to call him enemy. So to come on him harder after. This is just a presentation for what he wanted to do after and if we don't stand up now, he's gonna come with something harder after. I do believe in that. Mahmoud Mourra 26:07 We've been accused of hating. Do you hate gays, lesbians? Transgender people? Mahmoud Mourra 26:12 Absolutely no. I don't hate, no one hate, it's a heavy word. I do believe as a human, we could defeat any hate by open line of communication, talk to each other. Understand what other want. Like I'll tell you what hate is. Hate. When we saw the LGBT community, didn't even say a word for what happened to that Muslim kid in Edmonton or to those Muslim kids. And I tell you, hate, when you didn't see the LGBT community or who spoke on behalf of the LGBT community, degrade or condemn what happened to Josh Alexander in the first place? This is is what hate about. You cannot just claim I'm a hater, what you're hating me. They keep telling us far right? Or Islamophobic. The second we disagree resource people who call themselves LGBT allies, with all respect, they turn out to be they are the real Islamophobe, they are the biggest islamophobe. So now we start with the topic, that you were accusing other people of Canadian doing it, their enemy. Trudeau came to Calgary and he failed to come to our biggest Islamic center. We went somewhere else and he met some with some of our Muslim leader. I want to say thank you to my brother in law [unintelligible] he's the president of the Muslim Council of Care in Calgary, asking the question that they bought. I was lucky to record the six minute 39 second I keep referring to that screenshot of the life because I know they will delete it after they highlight it protect Muslim he stopped the battle the conservatives want to do as they keep telling us this stuff they put highlight I said hey hey that's not true. I put the six minute and 39 second. What did the Trudeau say in those six minute and 39 seconds. He disrespect all Muslims. And he degrade us. And he called us monster stupid we are listening to the far right media in United States. He clearly stated the worst thing for him and his coalition to have the hatred minority turning their back on each other's because we have a mutual enemy, which is a other group Canadian, I can't believe a prime minister fuel a part of Canadian against another group of Canadian which is although a freedom movement you could call Christian far right. And this is the worst thing, got those hated minority turning their back on each other's. Against who? Who the enemy. If they are enemy, hold them accountable. [unintelligible] enemy, let's work together. Let's build this country. But he wants that division because that's the only way for him to be that power to be controlling us to be in position to tell us what to do or what not to do and how to think. And he's doing that, right? It is not just he because he's a puppet, the play bait, a bigger agenda, as they're taking our rights away from us. And now they have the guts to come between you as a father and your daughter, between you as a father and your son. And yeah, this is what happened. And luckily we understood his message specially when he told my brother, we don't care about your genera... generation or your dad's, only care about your kids and I want to protect the Muslim LGBTQ kids. Want to protect our kids from me as a parent. This is the prime minister we have. When he failed as a husband, he want to tell me how to be a good husband. When he failed as a Minister, Prime Minister, you want to talk me how to deal with my own ministry which is all focused at your own thing, because you failed, and let us be free. And I hope our Canadian people stand up and take the proper stand to defend and protect this country, and I hope every Albertan knows the amount of the pressure and the challenge we are facing because I do believe as a Calgary and Alberta we are the last warriors of the last castles up fighting for the freedom of this country with all respect to other provinces. Will Dove 30:02 Yes. Now you've made reference to that recording you have of Trudeau meeting with some of the Muslim leadership. And there's very definitely been a campaign in this country in the last several years, and especially since Trudeau was elected, against Christianity. Here in Alberta, under Jason Kenney, no less than three pastors were arrested and imprisoned simply for practicing their freedom of religion. It's happened in other areas of the country too. But there is a perception among Christians that the Muslims are being largely left alone. What would your response be to that? Mahmoud Mourra 30:33 Absolutely this is not true. I'll tell you one thing, that Christians leader, the higher leader fail the Christian, there's no doubt. [unintelligible] Will Dove 30:42 Are you referring to the Pope? Mahmoud Mourra 30:43 Yes, I'm not just even Yeah, I'm not Christian so I can speak about that, but I could watch, maybe one bishop may comment that house of God which is church shouldn't be closed. How many priests took a stand? Was those priests who got arrested? Again, not none. I'll tell you one thing I'm a Muslim a human being I'm not a leader. I'm not imam. What got, the person who got assaulted was a student. When you see no video of Josh Alexander and stuff, Muslim rallied up, not because we're special human being. We believe for our faith and I believe Christian do but our leader stayed aside when we decide take stand, not even one Imam could come out publicly and condemn what we did. He cannot because it'd be destroyed, he'll commit suicide. Not like he get killed, but 'cause nobody will trust him. Under the table I know they'e afraid about their NGOs and charitable status and stuff so don't come but like we have a lot of them spoke what they need to say. Some of them attend our event. And we're not talking about like a street pastor, I'm talking about imam who belong to organization. We have a person like [unintelligible], he's one of the National Imams for North America. He comes publicly and condemned Trudeau on what happened to our kids in school stuff. And we're in process to press a legal court case here to protect our kids at school. So the difference between us and the Christian, Christian are coward, Christian are the main power of this country and I'll be honest with you, I'm conservative all my life so I don't want anyone to use it against me, I've been Wildrose, I've been progressive, I've been whatever. I believe every Muslim is this is not a lot as Muslim if it wasn't because the liberal mentality teaching us there's other Canadian hates you. By nature we're conservative. By nature, this is something anyone's two normal words. Let me show them He's conservative, methodically, even in the Holy Quran told me in many places, what I to be united was a Christian, when they fought was was was a Persian at the time. So our job was to pray for the Christian toward the Roman. So this is something in Holy Book that dramatically by nature we're what on the outside but because of propaganda, the fear tactic the left keep feeding. During a tough 180 years, every immigrant come language barriers and stuff. We're afraid this guy far right? He's a Christian, he's racist. And some of those small incident fueling it when you have someone who is stupid or doesn't comprehend what he's sayi- what he's saying, or his job, and make a stupid comment, will will feed that division and the mainstream media will take that comment and spread it all over. Yeah, so Muslim dude takes that and a lot of our leaders stood where they're supposed to stand? And if someone comes out out of the line, I'll tell you the congregation goes against them like we know that would and so thing would happen Christian but the problem that people who's in power for the Christian community, they support their people, like you have the churches who put the rainbow flag, [unintelligible] would never have a mosque with a rainbow flag. And I'm telling you straight up, you will never have that you cannot. It will never happen even if someone claim [unintelligible], he could go stand by himself ibn that mosque. You will never see people behind him, and I challenge anyone to do it. They call that though he did Calgary is about one and a third. No, you could bring anyone you are from a different community and tell them just like Muslim, act like Muslim, but we deep down our heart, we know, they're not Muslim. So this is a difference as our leadership stood where they supposed to stand. Even some of them didn't speak. But we know under the table and closed room, what they tell us was they support us and biggest evidence for my Christian brothers and sisters or Hussein. I got charged after second protest. Criminal charge motivated by hate, and I couldn't be more proud they accuse me affiliated was the white supremacist. So like, we're not above any law. But yes, we will stand where we're supposed to stand. We will follow every step and thank God we're in control now but I'll tell you some people could be out of control. If thing doesn't vetted properly. Some people may run away, but some people will face a challenge. Like the Christian like the Jewish like any free human being. And I keep saying that don't come between a uhm a bear and her cub as their animal. Don't come between a human, who's way stronger and more effective than any bear, and his son or his daughter, because it's somebody that had the view. And I'm pretty sure this message is clear for everybody to know. Our kids are the gift from God because I'm a person of faith. And God entrusted me with them. And I will do everything that's possible to protect them, to be with them. And to provide them the security, the safety I always believe I have to provide them with Will Dove 35:24 Mahmoud, you have succeeded in putting together the largest protest in Canada since the Freedom Convoy. What are your future plans? Mahmoud Mourra 35:30 Future plans, we talked to my friend and my team and I really want to thank each and every one like, who took a stand, communicate and our sister [unable to verify names], all the people from all over the country. My biggest plan, my biggest challenge, our leadership, we need to find a solid leadership but the movement there, the grassroot movement there, we need to answer Trudeau, the accusation he made against us having [unintelligible] meeting and standing against a parent who wanted to protect their kids need to be answered. I believe it's time for maybe civil disobedience, something to raise our voice. They keep saying nothing happened. They ignored us. They turned a blind eye. We're not in Venezuela, we're not in Lebanon, third world country. We are a people who pay taxes, we contribute to the society, we build a society, before you go and spend 650 million to assist army in Ukraine, we all heard about the embattlement that they can place, there is the Canadian veteran dying, and sleeping as a [unintelligible] of each town, in every city. And we need to tell every human being who's Canadian special from the ma.. minority, or whatever they call them. Don't believe in Trudeau, don't believe in the system, got to break that fear. You've been hostage yourself with that there's another part of Canadian people want you out of this country, come out and speak. Each and every one of us, his credit card bill, I believe, is paying the minimum payment payment, each one of us struggling to provide food on the table for his kids. Each and every one of us busy with so many thing the politic system distract us so as not to pay attention for them with all the mistakes they are doing. If we don't hold them accountable now and put them in the spot where they supposed to be, we all are going to lose more and more and more. And I believe we are trying to see what's the next move because as of now we're trying to wait for the fog to settle a little bit, rest. Each one worked in his city. And I'm thankful, maybe Muslim called for the protest. But the movement was way bigger than any Muslim organization. And everybody realized this, and to have the Prime Minister coming out and speak about us and call us hater. We must press his button. Truckers took them like I don't know how long for him to react. For us when they protest, press his button, that mean we did something very good and was effective. And I don't care the mainstream media or television call us 200 or 1000. We press the button. That's to tell those politician be aware we're coming for you leave our kids alone. Will Dove 35:36 And you made reference to needing leadership, and truckers, they inspired the world. And they're just truckers. You're an auto mechanic, you own a mechanic shop. I was a web developer before I became a freedom fighter and an independent journalist. Anyone can be a leader. What inspired you to step up? Mahmoud Mourra 38:46 What inspired me to step up, when I saw the interest of my kids or the benefit my kids getting sabotaged or jeopardized by some education or educator and by a system who doesn't see the interest of my kids as a priority? With all respect I'm not against the 2%, if they call them 2%, which they don't believe 2%. I believe they are us and we are them. They are special. The same way we have a special need people, special case situation, drug addict. And sometimes we have genius, let me call them they're special, and are, they are genius. This is still us Canadian. Why we need to give them 2% or 1% of stuff? Inspired me and aggravated me that when I go to a store to see someone getting promoted more than my right, someone treated special more than me This is not right. I understand if you're a special need, you need to have that, had the, a sign, whatever person a special needs sign to put in your car. But there's no reason when they come to you to announce myself I'm Mahmoud Mourra, I'm middle eastern Canadian and I'm straight or I'm gay or I'm lesbian. There's no reason for that. Just such way out. You don't, I don't need to expose this stuff. I believe we're going into error. That's something not normal, something's not right. And this kind of creating confusion, we don't need to divide the community more and more, I decided to come out and bring unity and tell people that LGBT are part of the Canadian community, the Muslim are part of the Canadian community. The far right or the freedom movement are part of the Canadian community. And we are the power we are the people. And we are to determine who's that slave leader we could put in place is not there to dictate to us. He's the slave. He's our slave to work for us. Sadly, all of us now we believe he's in higher position, regardless, he's a MP MLA or minister. And he's better for... than us. And we have to seek his acceptance, and his forgiveness and his mercy. No, he's in that position, and he's getting paid to serve us. And when he fell behind, we need to hold him accountable. And he has to pay the price. And this will make me live from there, to the feet of movement to the truckers, that is part of the whole universe. And we, our message was sincere stuff. But you know the defragment is how they shatter us, how to truly defeat them, they have in group here, group there. Now we're coming back together. I don't believe we created a second party. I don't believe we have options on the table. And we could hold Pierre Poilievre or Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau tomorrow comes as a liberal. And he admits he made a mistake. And he correct his mistake, I believe you and I will stand by him. Because there's no chance because the damage he did is unrepairable, he's behind, he's write-off, there is no reason for him to stay in this position. Just go focus in your personal life. Because I believe our Canadian nation deserve a better leadership. And I believe we need to hold every leader responsible. Same time when we have them are [unintelligible] support them, we should have our pen and paper ready to criticize him when he makes a mistake. And to hold him accountable if something goes wrong, because of human change. And I'll be honest with you, there's power struggle, there's a lot of things, there's our [unintelligible] at people's mind. But if you put them in a place where they know, there's a consequences for everything they do wrong, no one will dare to do any mistake. Will Dove 42:21 I think most people would agree that SOGI is the greatest threat facing our children today. You're a father, you're an activist, what would be your final thoughts for our viewers who are concerned about protecting their children from this agenda? Mahmoud Mourra 42:36 I want to tell every parent out there. You could not gamble with your kids. And the stuff you might sleep on today. And listening to those people who tells you there is nothing wrong in the school every single one nice and smooth, look at the safe drug use. Look about what's going on how many kids dying of overdose, those people who are dying, even if they are 30 years old, they are the son or the daughter of someone, they have a mother and a father who's crying a blood instead of tear to see that kid, where's the system of those kids. He's not even looking at them, the system don't even recognize them, they take them and bury them. And if they don't have any ID, they put number till they discover who they are. And trust me, you don't want to be the mother or the father of your son to die because of the confusion getting into our schools, confusing those kids and tell him she could be he or he she could be or at the end this kid if he doesn't accept or he thinks he's not accepted by you, you just think, which is I know every mother out there, or every father, especially the mother would never leave her son or her daughter. Doesn't matter what they do or what kind of condition they are in. But if those kids were to think, based off the teacher advice, they are not accepted by you, they may leave you they might go do that system change and stuff, the reversible decision. And at the end they'll be dying either overdose or committed suicide. Don't let your kids be the prey for the medical system for the pharmacist for any politician. Because they are predators looking at our kids as a prey, they will take them away from us the second we turn the blind eye and take it easy in things. Yeah, there's nothing there's no problem. Many of us said there's nothing wrong with our kids. A lot of us lost their kids and now they're crying and are so sad and upset about it. My advice to every parent if that was your sob put your social media aside, be if it was your daughter, listen to her what she has to tell you and be the first counselor of your kid's life because no one cares about your kids more than you because you're the parent you're the first one of that kid's life. Take a part of it and be with your kids all the time.