(0:00 - 5:02) In the past five years, many Canadians have suffered at the hands of our tyrannical government, and many of them still are. Witness the sentencing of Tamara Lich and Chris Barber for leading a peaceful resistance movement in the form of the Freedom Convoy, or the Coutts 4 in Alberta wrongfully imprisoned for years under false charges for the same crime, organizing peaceful resistance to the violations of our rights and freedoms. And two of the Coutts 4, Anthony Olienick and Chris Carbert, are still in prison. Aside from the Coutts 4, however, there is no one in Canada who has been persecuted more than Pastor Artur Pawlowski, arrested five times for simply holding church services and feeding the poor, practicing his constitutional rights to freedom of religion, speech, and assembly, and like the Coutts 4, imprisoned for speaking out against the narrative, often under barbaric conditions. And now, Pastor Art, whose video ejecting the police from his church in April of 2021 went viral around the world, has written a book on his experiences and on the conclusions he has drawn from that. What is wrong with a society that will so easily surrender their rights and freedoms and stand by passively while those who stand up to tyranny are persecuted? And how do we prevent this from happening again? The simple answer lies in the book. And we've done a couple of interviews now. In fact, very extensive ones. The first one, I think, was way back in 2021, when we just about covered the story of your life up to that point, and growing up in Poland under communist rule. And then the efforts of your street church here in Canada, and in fact, around the world, and how you were persecuted because you were actually getting people off the street, which the government funded shelters don't like, because they get paid by the head, so you were taking their business away. But then things really came to a head in 2021. And I want to start there, because unintentionally, the tyrants did you a favor when they sent police to your church on an Easter Sunday to shut down the service, but somebody recorded it. You threw them out. And that went viral. That was really what brought you to global attention. So let's start with that story. Well, people have to understand that this whole craziness of the past five years did not start during that Passover celebration. It started a year before. The Canadian government decided that for our own good, and for the good of the people, they need to shut down shelters and soup kitchens. So believe it or not, I became the first Canadian with another lady from Lethbridge to receive their crazy ticket for feeding the poor. It was a big shocker. About 12 agents of the Crown, police officers, high ranking bylaw services and health inspectors came to our soup kitchen, and they decided to shut it down. And they told me that if I don't do it, I will be arrested and I will receive millions of dollars worth of tickets. So the millions of dollars worth of tickets came later. But it was a crazy, crazy situation because I've appealed their decision beforehand to the ministers, to every cabinet minister in the province of Alberta, to the premier and to the mayor, and no one replied to me. No one cared. I told them, you people do not make any sense. If we're truly in the middle of this crisis, then my services are now needed more than ever. Because what do you think is going to happen to 15 to 20,000 different individuals facing homelessness if you will deny them the necessity supply? Because I'll tell you what is going to happen because I've seen it. They will turn into violence. They will turn into crying. They will break into people's houses, garages, grocery stores. I mean, people need to eat. Simple. And if you will not provide them the necessities of life, they're going to get it this way or that way. So you don't make any sense. (5:02 - 10:28) But they didn't care. At that moment, I knew, well, that this whole thing is a sham. It's exactly the tactics, the propaganda that we witnessed during that time. It was what we remember growing up behind the Iron Curtain. That's why I started to call Canada China. And soon after, when we were literally hunted down, every church service, every soup kitchen giving necessities of life to hurting people, you got to remember, shelters are shut down. Other soup kitchens are shut down. People are literally living under the bridges in the bushes, dying. Thousands of homeless people died. Do you know that? Thousands of people, homeless died during that time because of the actions of the government. Government murdered those people by their actions. So we were saving lives. But of course, the government was not happy. So they were sending police officers. 2020, well, it was an ongoing, nonstop police, bylaws, health inspectors, harassment, threats. I was followed by helicopters. I was followed by undercover police officers. I was followed by the cruisers, marked vehicles. I had police at my services from three, four police officers to our record, as you remember, of 120 few police officers, 20 cops on bicycles, anti-terrorists, SWAT team, chief of police that just resigned this last Friday, Newfield, and 52 or 54 police cars at our Christmas celebration. Because you got to remember at that time, the Canadian government decided that they're canceling Christmas. We just had Halloween, remember? And the same people encouraged children to have great time and fun. But a few days after, they said, we have to regret, but we're canceling Christmas. It was such a hypocrisy. And I'm going to let you point this out. What's the difference between Halloween and Christmas, Artur? Well, Halloween is worshiping evil, is glorifying zombies and just horrible ghosts, horrible things. Christmas, of course, elevates family, God, Jesus. It's a great celebration. It's a good reminder that we're not alone on this side of eternity, that there is a loving God. Christmas is a time for families to come together. And people are very lonely during that time. So every year we organize Christmas festival for the most vulnerable people. And they said, no, you're not allowed to do it. If you do it, you will be arrested. So that really ticked me off. So I went on television too, and I invited people to the biggest Christmas celebration in the country. And I said, if I am to go down, I'll go down with a big splash. I didn't know, well, thousands of people are going to show up. And we had, like I said, over 120, 40 police officers. And according to them, I did something that was unthinkable at that time. I did something so horrible that those officers came bearing gifts. It was Christmas after all. They came with 15 tickets. And they said, I've done something that is going to cost people's lives. I had carolers. You got to remember, Canadian government outlawed singing. They outlawed Lord's Supper, Holy Communion. They outlawed gatherings. They outlawed everything, pretty much. I was even told, and the chief of police came on television and said, I'm going to send my constables, and they're going to be monitoring driveways. And if they will see extra cars, they'll break the doors, and they will arrest everyone in it. Because you could not even have a brother or a sister for coffee. I could take you and hundreds of others to Walmart, to IKEA, to Costco, and that would be perfectly fine and okay. I remember during that time, we had to buy a bed for our son, and we had to go, you know, to look around. We went to IKEA. I will never forget this, because the moment we parked at the parking lot of IKEA, and we started to walk, there was a huge sign that said only 500 people allowed. I could not have my brother for coffee, but I could take my brother and 400 other people to IKEA, and that would be perfectly fine. It was a sham. It was a psychological, you know, test, if you will. And anyway, that's 2020. I mean, there's so much. That's why I wrote the book. There's so much, you know, behind the scenes, the stories. I started to call them Nazis. I started to call them Gestapo. People don't understand why. What I was trying to achieve, it was my way of communicating a message to the Canadian people, because you have never faced this on your soil. (10:28 - 13:22) You never had Nazis taking over your country. We had. You never had communism and socialism, the Soviets taking over your country. We had. So you should pay attention to immigrants that escaped hell, because you have never faced that in this country. But of course, Canadians are refusing to listen to people like us, so it looks like the repetition of history is happening in front of our very eyes. But going back to the story, I saw the same tactics that my grandparents were telling me in the older generation of what Gestapo was doing. So what Gestapo means, it means simply political police. That's what the Gestapo is. So I was trying my best to shake them out of their slumber by using words that I knew are going to trigger them. And it did. It did. I said, you're acting like Gestapo. You got to remember 2021, that's one year after we were literally hunted down every service for over a year when our parking lots were blocked by the police and the peace officers, where our people were intimidated, when they were taking pictures of our women and children, just trying to put the pressure on us. When I was getting ticket after ticket, I got probably over 50 tickets during that time for just doing my my job. So I had conversations with the police. I had conversations with the health inspectors, services for over a year. But when they decided to break Section 176 of the Criminal Code of Canada and trespass, even though I told them you're not welcome in this capacity, you're welcome to come to join us in a church service. But if you're coming with your tasers, your guns and your uniforms to intimidate people and to shut us down, you're not welcome. You want to come and worship with us? Everyone is welcome to come to the church, but not in this capacity. Leave your uniforms and your whatever authorities you think you have outside and come and join us. But of course, you know that their intention was to shut us down. So Section 176, 1, 2 and 3 clearly states that they're not allowed to do what they did, but they did it anyway, because during totalitarian regime, during a takeover of dictatorship, law means nothing to those people. And that's exactly what we're observing in Canada. It's lawlessness, no checks and balances, zero accountability. If it comes to law enforcement agents, if it comes to health inspectors, if it comes to politicians and the media, there is absolutely zero accountability. They can lie, they can cheat. (13:22 - 13:35) And a perfect example of that is a man named Steven Johnston. Steven Johnston is from the Special Crime Prosecutors Unit. He's in my book and his picture is there as well. (13:36 - 14:16) If you google him up, there are no pictures. Some of those agents are undercover. No one knows who they are, where they came from. There's no background. But he is from a special, I call it Gestapo unit. Under the watchful eyes of the conservative government, they established this Gestapo unit. And his job, just for the viewers who might be confused, because we're Canada-wide, when you say conservative government, what you're referring to is the Alberta conservative government at the time under Jason Kenney, not the Liberal federal government. Yeah. So he is, his job and his unit's job is to literally hunt down any opposition to the government. (14:16 - 15:04) So in other words, his job, just like the Gestapo of old, is to go after the political dissidents. And he is doing a great job. One after another, he hunts us down. To this day, there are trials. And to this day, we have political prisoners, as you know, from that era, rotting in prison. So going back to the story, when they entered it, when they entered the church, they broke the law and after a year of harassment, I had only one thing for those people. Just get out. Right. Just get out. And it came naturally. I was not preparing. I was shocked. Well, I was shocked that they entered the church in that capacity. I was absolutely shocked. I was taken by surprise. (15:04 - 15:54) I just did not believe that they will break the law openly without any consideration to our God and state-given rights. Because at that time, I was very naive. My wife thinks I'm the most naive person that ever lived because I actually believe in a law and order. I believe in decency of humans, less and less now. But I thought that they're not going to openly break every law that there is, Constitution, Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Well, it says in a preamble, whereas Canada acknowledges the supremacy of God and the rule of law, those people broke everything of fundamentally guaranteed rights do not exist in Canada. That's why I refer to our nation as China right now, because it's lawlessness. There's no rule of law. Look at the judges. (15:55 - 16:29) The judges are woke and rogue and they don't even follow their own rules. It's shocking. The police officers don't follow their own rules. The chief of police is breaking law left and right and there is nothing we can do about it. Politicians, remember at that time, because when I recorded the interaction with authorities, I did it for my own protection because police officers have no problem, no problem to lie on stand under oath. No problem whatsoever. (16:29 - 17:07) How do I know that? Because I faced over 120 court cases so far and over 360 citations so far. And of course, multiple arrests. So I, out of experience, I try my best to have someone record or our holder a cell phone to record a conversation. I was light of yelling, screaming, resisting arrest, being violent, assaulting. I was accused of everything by the police officers. If I didn't have the camera, I would still be in prison because they have no problem to lie. (17:09 - 19:16) I kicked them out, but they came back with a vengeance. As you remember, they found crooked judges like David Gates of Alberta. And again, I don't know if he's related to the American devil, Bill Gates, but David Gates of Alberta, the judge, which right after this decision resigned, my wife says with a pail of money, allegedly. And then David Gates of Alberta gave them the power to enter our church anytime they want with whomever they wanted to. So they came with SWAT team, anti-terrorists. They dropped some package on the ground. It was not even properly served. And apparently, at that time, I didn't know he had a court order from another crooked judge, John Rook, the crook, which resigned after this as well. Interestingly, right? All those people, you can't even go after them because they're no longer here. Who knows what happened to them? And so John Rook, the crook gave them the power to arrest anyone that would dare to oppose them. Yes. Four and a half million Albertans automatically became slaves of the state. So they came, dropped some package. A few days later, it was three weeks later or four weeks later after the incident of me kicking them out. And of course, the recording of that incident, I posted it and I forgot about it because I had so many interactions with authorities. I'll just post them and forget about it. And next day, next day was another interaction with some other crooked cop or health inspector or bylaw services. But this one, because I shot my cell phone after the service, when we were done praying and worshiping and preaching, I was shocked. Hundreds of comments and invitations were coming from Fox News and other international authors. I said to my wife, like, what have I done? I didn't even know what I did. It didn't click that it was related to this little interaction of me kicking them out. (19:16 - 22:36) But you know, here is what, now I know what happened. People were so tired of this tyranny for over a year that my simple get out resonated with what they had in their hearts. It was the simplicity of the interaction, just get out, get out of my church, get out of my restaurant, get out of my life, get out of my grandparents, you know, get out, you evil, wicked psychopaths, just get out. And it resonated with people so much internationally that that video was watched over a billion times. Billion people watched this video. And I was offered lots of money to sell that video to some outlets. And I said, no, I want the people to see it, to hear it, because I didn't do it to get rich. I did it to spark courage into the people's hearts because they have been subjected by tyranny. It's like the enemy blanketed the whole world with fear and tyranny and this just dark clouds of evil. So going back to the story, a few weeks after the anti-terrorist scheme, we got arrested with my brother David in the middle of the highway. And that's the picture from that arrest that was kind of turning into a cartoonish, you know, little, because the actual picture looks very brutal. And it's like, so we've decided to tone it down a little bit for the younger generation as well. And we got arrested, charged with the insane charges, inciting people to come to church. Can you believe it? Well, that's what I do for a living. I incite people to come to church because I want people to receive hope. We were charged with officiating in illegal gathering, participating in illegal gathering. And you will remember, I was calling those people Nazis, communists, socialists. Why? Because the language they were using, the Canadian government, the global now government, the language that they were using and still are using is identical to the one I remember growing up. Illegal gathering, participating, officiating, illegal, illegal, this. I remember the Nazis were calling Polish patriots bandits, criminals, lawbreakers, troublemakers. That's exactly how we were called during this time by the media, by the politicians, troublemakers, lawbreakers. No one is above the law. This is not law. This is lawlessness, right? Yes. So we end up in prison. I mean, there's so much to talk about all the arrests and legality, you know, of what they've done to us. But we end up in jail three days, two nights on concrete, every half hour officer would come and bang on the doors. The lights were so bright. I mean, those, those lights are nothing in comparison to what they did to us. The lights are so, so crazy bright that you, you close your eyes and you can't, you cover your eyes and you still see the light coming through. That's how crazy it is. Three days, two nights, we couldn't sleep. We faced on Monday, another Krukowicz. (22:37 - 22:44) And arrest was brutal. They've cut my wrist. I still have scars all around my wrist. (22:46 - 23:24) They put me in a paddy wagon. It was just for one person. It was so small, my feet were sticking out and the police officers were talking that they're going to charge me with kicking them and assaulting them and all kinds of stuff because they could not fit me inside that, that little space. So I was transported to jail with my face on the ground, my head on the ground and my feet up like a piece of meat. And they would stop in the middle of downtown. I could see through a little window, I could see the apartment buildings, which is totally not the way to jail. (23:24 - 23:58) The way to jail is, is a different road, but they went to downtown just for the fun. They went for coffee. Other officers came and it was like, I was like a monkey on the display and they were laughing and they, because I was like a piece of meat hurting my entire body on my twisted wrists on the ground. It was horrible. It's the most painful thing I've ever, I ever faced in my life actually. And that tells you a lot because I was a professional boxer and a martial arts expert. (23:58 - 24:41) This, what they did to me, it was crazy. Anyway, on Monday we face another crooked judge, shackled like animals, taken to, to the courts, Adam Germain. Adam Germain ultimately, I'm, you know, cutting the story, ultimately found us guilty on everything. Give us a monetary punishment, some insane, insane thing. And we have become the first Canadians to have this compelled speech order where the government using the crooked judge, Adam Germain, ordered us to pirate CBC, CNN, and crooked politicians. And we were listening to this with my brother, David Media, everywhere. (24:41 - 25:50) And, uh, it was a big protest of that, uh, that they, um, at the sentencing. Of course, between, I went to the States to tell the American people what is happening in China now to warn them that you're next, that your biggest enemy is not on the Southern border. Your biggest enemy is being built right now at the Northern border when the Chinese have completely taken over Canadian government. So I spent four years, as you remember, upon arrival, I was immediately arrested on the tarmac. I mean, this was crazy. It was like a takedown of El Chapo of Calgary, Al Capone of Canada. I've never seen anyone being arrested on a, on a plane or on the tarmac. I mean, that's crazy for what? Well, I was charged with criminal offenses, the same offenses that Adam Germain and, um, others charged us, but this time criminal, they made it, they upped their game. They made it criminal offense, inciting people to come to an illegal gathering, participating. (25:50 - 26:58) I was even charged criminally for baptizing my daughter, officiating in church service outside and not wearing a muzzle. So I went to jail, released on bail, then arrested by RCMP, went to jail and then arrested again for attending a peaceful rally. As you remember at that time, the rallies were getting bigger and bigger and bigger. We started with four, five, six people. By the time I was arrested, we had 20,000 people on the streets of Calgary. And I was traveling all over this country. I was, uh, you know, doing rallies. Um, I was doing church services at the Supreme court in British Columbia, in Edmonton. I was doing rallies in Ottawa, everywhere. I was doing my best to go everywhere. And the truck convoy started. And as you remember, the truckers called me and they asked me if I would become their pastor. So I said, yes. And, um, they came to Calgary. I did church services. Our church fed them and we raised truckloads of food for them and other things. Off they go to Ottawa. I wanted to go with them. (26:59 - 28:23) I had the rights and people wanted me to come, but my wife, you know, thank God for good wives because we're, you know, hot blood. Sometimes it's just, well, we want to go. But she says, if every man will go to Ottawa, who's going to organize rallies here, who's going to stay here and raise this support for them. And I think something that we have to insert for the viewers outside of Alberta is, you know, here we are five years later from the beginning of this whole COVID narrative. And today Alberta is recognized. It's not perfect, but it's probably recognized as being the freest province in Canada. That's very relative of course. Um, but at the time under Jason Kenney, it was every bit as tyrannical here as everywhere else. I think it was more so, you know, when we start talking about the Coutts border crossing and the fact that, and it hasn't gotten any better. I'm a little disappointed in Daniel Smith that she hasn't stepped in on this because two of the Coutts 4 are still in prison as you know. That's right. And they're probably the only people in this country who've been persecuted more than you have for standing up for our rights, for just simply doing what was right. And so, yeah, they came along. And so there was that, that Easter service where the police showed up, you threw them out, that video went viral, which made you a huge threat to their plans because yes, you were resonating with people. You were doing what they wanted to do. And they just needed to see somebody do it. And then some of them would start doing it and they couldn't have that.