Will: Those of you who have watched my interviews know that I'm not only concerned with bringing you the truth, but also with featuring guests on my show who can offer advice on how to not only survive, but thrive during this era of COVID oppression. I have with me today, Dr. Christiane Northrop, Dr. Northrop practiced as an OB GYN for 25 years. She is a multiple New York Times best selling author and has appeared on Oprah, The Today Show. NBC Nightly News, Good Morning, America and 2020 among many others. And like many of my guests, she has been the target of cancel culture for telling people the truth about the COVID vaccines. Christiane can be found online at www.drnorthrup.com while much of Dr. Northrop's work focuses on women's health, she's here today to discuss her 2016 book 'Making Life Easy" in which she discusses how all of us, both women and men can proof ourselves against fear and depression. Dr. Northrop, thanks so much for joining us. Christiane: Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. Will: And I have to say, I genuinely enjoyed reading your book. And the first thing that hit me, because I will admit to being a very right brained, rational science-based person, not that I discount the spiritual, but you made reference many times in your book to epigenetics, the ability of all of us to change our genetics, to switch certain genes on and off based upon our environment. Would you start by talking about that? Christiane: Yes. First of all, I'm good friends with Bruce Lipton who wrote "The Biology of Belief". And so Bruce has actually been one of the primary what would we call it? Translators of that science. He was a former medical school professor to the masters of people. He's in fact rewriting Darwin's "Origin of the Species" to make it what it should be, which is that we have come as probably as far as we can come with cell surface. So as he points out, the brain of the cell is the membrane of the cell. The nucleus is just the gonad, but it is the membrane of the cell where that's like the brain. And that's what interacts with the environment. And the reason that our brain has so many convoluted areas, it's got all these folds and so on is that we needed that much brain surface to interact with the environment. Now we need groups of people. That's the latest evolution where we will be working together, not just individually in order to move the needle forward. That's epigenetics is one's ability to take the environment and by the way, the environment includes your thoughts and emotions. This is the part I wanna get across, your thoughts and emotions are the environment because every thought, every emotion is accompanied by a cascade of chemicals that go throughout the body or as Deepak said years ago, Deepak Chopra, we have a thinking immune system that eavesdrops on our thoughts. So we have receptors on every immune system cell for neurochemicals, the chemicals that the brain makes when it thinks. And, but there's more, and that is every cell in the body produces those same neurochemicals. So we need to, one of the things that I have noticed for my entire career, and that is that people in yoga class or in their daily lives, they'll talk about the mind body connection until it comes to their physical body and their physical health. And then that all goes out the window. They go to the doctor and the doctor says. I have been stunned by this for four decades. It's like, I’ll give you an example from my practice. A woman came in once and she said, is it me? Or is it my hormones as though those two things exist in separate universes your hormones are in Iowa and you're in Quebec. It doesn't work that way. And I just listened to Tucker Carlson, do an amazing piece on antidepressants. There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance in your brain, it does not exist. And so what big pharma has done through the SSRIs, the serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac was the first one. It has changed on the entire generation. It's brainwashed them into thinking they have a chemical imbalance, and then they've been given the most addictive drugs on the planet. And the minute they start to come off them, all of their symptoms come back because they've never actually dealt with whatever it is. What they've done instead is just put duct tape over the indicator lights on their dashboard. And that, my friends, is most of modern medicine. It's giving women birth control pills to regulate their period. That's what all of the GYNs do. Oh, they gave me birth control pills to regulate my period. No, all they did was make you start to cycle with ortho pharmaceutical or whatever it is instead of with the moon. That's been my whole career. Listen, your health is like it is because of the environment in which you are living. And the first step to change the environment is change the way you're thinking. Now, is that easy? No, you have forces that are massive doing everything in their power to take you away from where the real power is. It's the power behind your eyes. It's the way you interpret things. So Bernie Siegel years ago, we were co-presidents of the American Holistic Medical Association. Bernie was a Yale pediatric surgeon. He wrote "Love, Medicine and Miracles" and he tells a wonderful story about a guy who overheard the nurses or the doctors at the nurse’s station of the coronary intensive care unit say that man has a Gallup rhythm. The Gallup rhythm is deadly. In this man, he heard my heart is healthy as horse and he recovered totally. It's that, it's how we interpret our environment. And so you need to get in the habit particularly now when we've had the fear porn at us 24/7. So the first thing you need to do everybody: Do not - And I'm not kidding - do not watch mainstream news or mainstream anything except maybe Tucker Carlson on Fox. That's it don't watch anything else because it is - and I've known this for years and you read my bio. So I've been on all those programs. Before I got canceled, and so I know how they cut something. I know how they bring in the worst news from all over the planet. And then put evocative background music in there, and it is all to hypnotize you into an MK Ultra Mind control so that you will line up and do whatever they want you to do in the matrix. But you have the power to get out of there. The leadership has to begin with you. And that's what 'Making Life Easy' is all about. Cuz as long as you are looking for your doctor or your husband or your bank or your what or your mother to save you, that's okay. I call that's a booze cruise on steroids. That is no fun at all. You're just literally, you're like a boat in the water. You don't have the rudder in the center board's not in there. The sail is flapping. When you get that, you get the rudder in and the center board in and you trim the sails and you know where you're going. Yeah, you'll be off course, just like a plane going from here to San Diego is off course all the time. It just keeps recalibrating. And that's what emotions are for. They're your inner guidance system, okay? So we've got all that we need. We're powerful beyond our knowing, as the Bible says, we are fearfully and wonderfully made in the image of God. And Jesus said these things and more ye shall do also, you think he was lying? So we, I think we're in a time it's a very exciting time because the whole human race is in a crucible where all of the dross is being burned off. You all know this you have a whole group of friends, you no longer have. It's a vetting process. So I let's start by let's look at all the good things that this pandemic has done. It has brought together people like you and me. I now know all the doctors that I didn't know before: Robert Malone, Brian Ardis, Peter McCullough, we've all met being backstage at the Reawaken America Tour by Clay Clark Clay is hilarious. We've brought together spiritual leaders. Christians, Muslims, Jews, because everybody knows that we are dealing with powers and principalities that are not of this world, who else could orchestrate this kind of craziness. And now everybody not just me knows about the Flexner report, where John D Rockefeller closed down all the natural medical schools in about 1910 we even have data from my colleague, Dr. Lee Merrit that the giant flu epidemic of 1918 was orchestrated by the same goons. Now here's the thing you don't need to be afraid of them. You need to understand your own power and they exist by virtue of keeping you, now get this, everybody, their job is to keep you angry and depressed and fearful. And then these negative beings feed on that. It's called loosh, but they harvest human emotion. I actually, I don't think that we're dealing with humans here. This is a regressive species called sociopaths and there are way more of us than there are of them. Now you Canadians are particularly nice people. And I grew up in a town south of Buffalo, where most of the houses are owned by Canadians who would come down to ski. It's a beautiful, peaceful place that supports the art and great music and Joni Mitchell and all the rest of it. But what you haven't had is this sort of independent spirit of we're packing heat here. We're gonna get a, a, we're gonna get a pistol permit and you're not, but when you guys did the truckers thing, we were all cheering. Alright, Canada! Cuz when you bring everything together like that, it's so enlivening to the rest of the world it's and so the Canadians did that and it was one beautiful thing and I don't care what you say. You won. Will: Thank you. Christiane: So we have to that's the other for wins. We have to look for what is good about today. I'll give you a big win. This is a big one for me because I am one of the infamous disinformation dozen. There's a attorney general from Missouri who sued Biden and Fauci over their co-opting of social media to censor everything that didn't go against didn't come with the narrative. I, back in 2020, right? I'd post something about masks or I'd post something about the Zelenko Protocol or I would post, and then I'd get all the bots coming in. Oh my God, you are dangerous. You, I can't believe you're doing whoa. And I knew something was really wrong. Now this attorney general has gotten a federal judge to grant discovery. We've been looking for this for discovery here for a couple years. So the Biden administration by August 17th is going to have to hand over the documents that show that they worked with Mark Zuckerberg and all the rest of them to silence the Great Barrington Declaration, the best epidemiologists and scientists in the world. So the chickens are coming home to roost is what I wanna say here. Will: Christiane, you've said so much in the last few minutes that I could, would love to pursue, but I know you have limited time and I wanted to keep this interview focused on practical steps for people to, as I've said in the introduction, proof themselves against fear and depression. And I really love the fact that you talked about epigenetics and our environment, because I talked about, this is a passion of my own. I talked about people all the time and as well as I do, as soon as you say the environment the picture most people get is, well, around me, everything's going on around me. And they don't understand that no, your environment really is what's happening in here because that's right. How do we see all of this? It's through our eyes and our ears, our senses, and all of that's connected to our brain. And so the environment is this in here, and that's what we have to change. Now. I've always believed that you can't fix a problem until you identify the problem. And one of the tactics that you talked about in your book for finding out where you are right now was proprioceptive writing. Could you start with a description of that and how it works. Christiane: Yes, I would love to. Okay. Now these instruction can be found in my teacher's book, "Writing the Mind Alive" by Linda Trickter Metcalf who taught English at NYU, and she began to realize that there are no tourists in the mind. This is so interesting. So the process that she invented is this, you light a candle, so you're really creating a ceremony. You light a candle, you put on a Baroque second movement, a baroque addagio movement about 60 cycles per second. So that would be Mozart and it would be Bach and this kind of music, any Baroque person music. You take three deep breaths and you come up writing and all you're doing is listening. Now. See, when I say listening, I'm listening here. I can feel that I'm listening like a secretary. You're not your thoughts. Your thoughts can be changed. So you light the candle, you play the music you come up writing and every now and again, you're gonna come up on a word that has a charge. And for me for about a year, the word with the charge was worthy. What do I mean? And then you ask the proprioceptive question. What do I mean by worthy? And then you do a dive on it. You pay attention to the imagery that comes up a story that comes up and you just write it. You just write it like a secretary. Now, when you're done with the, let's say 10 minutes or 20 minutes or however, when you're done with that and you've asked the proprioceptive question over and over, what do I mean by love? What do I mean by torture? What do I mean by whatever, you get to the end, and then you say, what, how do I feel now? And then, what story am I telling? Now I did this for seven years to find my writer's voice before I first wrote "Women's Bodies, Women's Wisdom". And I started to take that course from Linda because I noticed that I could not seem to write a scientific paper. It never made sense to me because I have the kind of brain that relates this to this and that's not allowed in the medical system. We're looking for linear, logical and this other stuff doesn't count. It's like my whole career has been this. Okay. What you're saying here makes all kinds of sense, but there's a missing piece and that would be a woman's emotions and her generational history. And who's the aunt who had a stillborn that is still affecting her fertility, but she doesn't know it. That kind of thing. Proprioceptive writing is a way to use the mind to identify what's in the mind. Most people do not know what they're thinking. They're just literally being puppeted by whatever the mainstream is telling you to think. A perfect example of that is a set of mailboxes near me. On one side is BLM black lives matter. And then of course we change the narrative. So now on the other side, is a Ukrainian flag, because whoever put those out there is just going along with the woke mainstream narrative. If you're a good person, this is what you're supposed to believe in. Will: And I, that proprioceptive writing. Some of us are fortunate enough to be introspective people and we're inside of our heads and we, usually know what we're thinking and feeling, but a lot of people aren't. And so I like that concept that you can start with that proprioceptive writing because you can't fix the problem until you know where you are now. So we've got somebody who's listened to this interview they've gone and done this exercise. They've written all this out in the gone 'oh, okay. So this is what I'm afraid of. This is how I define these terms. This is what's important to me. This is where I want to be. So now we have to get into the practical steps of how do we get there, because, and this is a really important concept, and I know you're well aware of it. And you made reference earlier to it. So the fear porn. And this causes and I'm sure, the human brain, at least as well as I do that when the fear centers are firing the upper, the higher reasoning centers are not. And so if you put somebody in that state of constant fear, they're not thinking. They're not able to rationally plan their own future. They're not able to change that environment. So what strategy do you suggest for people who are in that state of, they've come awake, they've done the appropriate step of exercise. They say, okay, this is where I am. I need to get out of this, but I'm afraid. How do they deal with that fear? Christiane: The first thing you wanna, there's another step to the proprioceptive writing thing, and this is the incredible power of fellowship, of community. No man is an island. We were never supposed to be isolated. They wouldn't even do that to prisoners. You cannot do solitary confinement by law, in a prison. We did solitary confinement for the entire planet, or at least, England, Canada, the United States. So the first thing you do after you've written this out, find someone to read it to and ask them not to try to fix it, but to simply reflect back to you what they're hearing. So you read it to them and they respond in the same fashion as if they were writing, like what, they'll hear a certain word and they will write down their response. So that's where the two become one and where we join and where we are reflected in another's eyes. When I started this thing called main stands up in my living room in December of 2020, I knew that the most gangster thing I could do at that time was bring people together in my home even though we were all afraid that the police would shut us down. So we put on the door, peaceful protest in progress because it looked like you could go out and burn down the city of Minneapolis. And that was a peaceful protest. So we were gonna use that same strategy. But what I wanna say is that the very act of getting together with just one like-minded person can save your life. So what you wanna do at this time, when you're in fear, you need to have a couple sources that you go to just if you're in a 12 step program, what they tell you to do is pick up the phone and call somebody. I remember Sandra Bullock was in a movie called I think it was called 48 Days or whatever. It was 28 Days. And it was about her rehab and there was a sign on her back that she had to wear. And it says, confront me if I don't ask for help. Many of us have brought, been brought to believe that we should be able to figure it out on our own. Otherwise, we are weak and I will tell you, nobody can figure it out on their own. Nobody. And remember, we're back to Bruce Lipton, where he said, we are evolving into a multi organelle of humanity where some person does this. The other person does that. We are going to be forming communities that are not what the World Economic Forum wants them to be. We're going to, they're gonna be organic communities. And so you've got to have at least one other person, and I want people to take the risk, and this is a risk. You're afraid and you reach out to someone and you say, I'm afraid. Can you help me? Will: And of course what happens there and I love what you did with people meeting at your house because in our own way we did our own same thing. We started this organization, this freedom organization two years ago, and we were just a small, first, first we were just the city of Calgary and then we expanded to the province of Alberta. And eventually we went nationwide, but in our early days, we would have meetings with our volunteer team every Wednesday night at our house. And I would say, I don't care if the police show fine show up, gimme a ticket. I don't care. I'm not participating in this because the thing that was so important about what you said was the isolation is intentional. They are intentionally separating people and that makes people far more susceptible to fear. And so I love your solution that you have to reach out and contact other people. And an amazing thing will happen when you do. You're gonna encounter people who feel the same way you do. That's where you start to build that support group. And when you've and because we are social animals and we are susceptible to fear when we are isolated, when you start to build that support group of people who feel the same way, you do. Watch the fear of vanish. Christiane: That's right. Supporting each other. And you did the same thing, so you know how that is. And You're not gonna be alone. If something happens. I now have three different farms that I can go to right around me. One, one tank of gas or less. And we have people who are intent on growing food for the whole community or whatever. We had one woman who came down with whatever that thing is from the bio weapon. And she was literally dying. Our whole community went out. We helped her with oxygen and IV vitamin C and all the rest, because our goal during this was to make sure we kept everybody in our group out of the hospital. And so what we found is we had resources to do that and there's okay. You want something practical? You want nurture an attitude of this: I have no idea how we're gonna do this. I do not know, but I know that God will show up or my higher self or whatever you wanna say, or by the law of attraction, the right people will show up so that this will get done. And that's been how it's been for me since March of 2020. I call it God's internet. And suddenly I was doing podcasts with all these Patriot groups that I had never heard of before. Meeting naturopaths throughout Canada who were doing the work. So finding the right people always, but very often, you had to take the first step, everyone's kind of waiting for permission cuz we've been taught that. So don't wait for permission. But just, well, here's another example. Back in the early days, I have a good friend who called me. He hadn't hugged anyone in like months. And I said, look, just find the one person at the grocery store who's not wearing a mask. And so he, he did. And the two, it was like, we laugh about it now. It was like one of those romantic movies where they see each other across the lettuce aisle, and run and give each other a hug. The two of them have become very solid players in our new community. So this is another thing when you are frozen in fear, this just like depression, by the way, what works? Take an action. Any action, clean a drawer, clean a closet, any action, just get out of stasis, just do one thing. And and you might, when you're cleaning the drawer, do it as an act of service and turn it over to God to say, I'm doing this for God, and that will get you unstuck but just remaining in stasis that is depression. It doesn't work for blood circulation. It doesn't work for your breathing. It doesn't work for anything. We have to stay in the flow, stay moving. Think of yourself, everybody listening. Where were you in March of 2020? Where are you now? And yes. Yes, we've all had losses. So you need to also grieve. You have to grieve for your losses. Chances are very good that you've lost family members, possibly children. You've lost jobs. You've lost- I've lost relationships that were going on 30 years because I've just been canceled, but I realize that they don't get it. They don't get it. I'm not angry. They don't get it. And you go back on your old teaching, father forgive them for, they know not what they do. They don't see it. What amazes me is how can I be one of the hundred most trusted people in America in 2013 and now be vilified as the disinformation dozen. If you, one of my friends said I was in a group where they were wondering, has she lost her mind? And she said to me, I wanted to find out where your mind went, because I have noticed you've been ahead of the curve for many years. What and let, the other thing is this, you are not responsible for bringing someone up to speed if they are not interested, do not waste your time and energy. The heart can only be opened from the inside. Don't answer questions that have not been asked. It will lead to nothing but heartache for you. There are plenty of us. In fact, you'll be shocked at how many of us there are, but they don't dare say anything. So you're gonna make the first move. That's another practical thing: you make the first move. Will: And then I'm glad that you made that transition from fear to depression. And most of our viewers know I have experienced depression despite the fact that I'm typically a very positive person. Six years ago, I went through treatment for stage four throat cancer. And one of the primary side effects of that treatment was severe depression. So I know what it is. And for those of you who haven't experienced it, depression is not being really sad. What it is a sense of hopelessness, worthlessness that nothing you do matters. And so I loved what you said. Go do something that in my mind, and I want your thoughts on this is the cure the way to prevent depression, because if you're out contributing, if you're doing something of value and you know you are, you've prooofed yourself against that feeling of worthlessness, what do you think? Christiane: I completely agree. I remember someone saying to a depressed person, a psychiatrist said to them, sweep your front step. Just start in with the smallest thing then if you can, get involved in a community garden, or we have one woman in our group, and she said, when I first came here, I was really hopeless. And then she began to make liposomal vitamin C for the group and it gave her purpose. And I have watched that woman blossom. She's a different person because she fits in now with the group before she was a widow, didn't. And many people listening to me now you've probably lost a wife or a husband or somebody. And so you have to - you're at this fertile void, we could call it or maybe the desert. So when you're there you must absolutely force yourself to understand that affirmations saying affirmations, right as Napoleon Hill said thoughts have the peculiar quality of becoming their physical equivalents. And when you're in grief, you've got to be in grief. You've got to be there. And what you usually find is that if you weep, if you literally - movement sound and tears, you literally get into that. Give, set a timer, give yourself 10 minutes to wail, okay, you've moved it through the body. Cause you don't wanna get stuck there. Many people are just stuck there. So set a timer. You've moved it through your body. Good. Thank you. And then you go do something, anything, and very often, if you can help someone else, it will get you out of that self centeredness that is depression. It's very self-centered, but it also can be I had it after my second child about the third day that, where all the hormones just bottom out. And I remember this for about a day, I wanted to walk into the river and drown myself. I'll never forget it because when you're in that, when you've experienced it, it really is you cannot believe it. It's absolute, utter hopelessness. Now I also knew that I wouldn't do that. I knew that I wouldn't do that, but I experienced it. So that's the other thing. I want you to cultivate a witness part of yourself that watches yourself. You could call that your Higher Power or God. Will: And I think what you're talking you're a great deal about is our internal dialogue. And in the book you made reference to Dr. Joe Dispenza and his talk about repetitive thoughts and feelings. You touched on a really important point that when we get hit with that depression some people just get mired there and it's really hard to get out. And of course, yes, one step is, go do something. But even if you go do something, I don't think that's enough. You have to go do something and you have to start changing your thought patterns as you do it. So how would you advise people who have gotten into that depressed state with this just continual repetition in their heads of negative thoughts that are keeping them down? How do they break out of that? Christiane: First of all, I would acknowledge with great humor that repetitive thought. So I would say to myself, holy mother, you get the Olympic medal for the most depressive negative thoughts on planet earth. So let me congratulate you. Nobody does it better. So you wanna stare it down. You wanna look at it and then do a state shift into humor. Okay. So you do that. And then the other thing that you do is you begin to, you should have a set of physical things you can do. One is using the breath. So I want you to put on sticky notes, maybe that just say breathe. And if one takes a deep breath through their nose and out through their nose, they'll instantly engage the parasympathetic rest and restore nervous system. Mostly when we're in that fear thing, we're breathing through our. Our breath is limited to the upper lobes of the lungs. The vagus nerve never gets activated and therefore you're in a stress cycle of fight or flight, and only producing epinephrine cortisol. But if you take a moment and let's just do this together, where you take just breathe through your mouth. Okay. You're breathing through your mouth. You're watching CNN. You're getting scared. It's your usual state and then you decide, alright, I'm gonna breathe fully. So let's take a full, deep breath through our nose and let it out. Now. I want you to breathe through your mouth again. All right. Now let's do one more deep breath through our nose. Now you notice how much deeper that breath through the nose goes. The nasal bones are like venturis and they send the air down to where the diaphragm is. And that's where the vagus nerve travels through the diaphragm. It instantly puts your body into parasympathetic rest, digest, restore from flight or flight. So you have that, but you'll forget. And that's why just little sticky notes, breathe. You can do that. The other thing you might do is just have a set of a couple exercises. I do something called jungle 30 and that's three sets of 10 pushups, 10 squats, 10 sit-ups. And after you do that, and there's always resistance. I always have resistance to do it, but every time I do it, I feel instantly better. You've moved emotion, emotions have to be moved through the body. Now here's the other thing, though, let's be clear, negative emotions and watching the fear porn is highly addictive. It's highly addictive. So like any addict, you gotta want to be better because let's be clear about something birds of a feather flock together. And there are people who just thrive on negativity. I said to my daughters once - my adult daughters now, why is it that you never got into drugs? And they said you told us that the people who smoked and did drugs and all that were by and large depressed and kind of losers, they weren't at the top of their game. And what we noticed is you were right. Will: Indeed, you are. And I, I love that you're talking about breathing and folks, if there's people out there who are poo pooing, that whole idea, I would urge you to go and watch my recent interview with Dr. Rob Verkerk, where we talked about breathing and the importance of it. And this is something I only learned about myself just a few years ago, despite having been into fitness and nutrition exercise, not my entire life. And I was shocked to discover I had been breathing wrong. I was because I was, was a body builder. I was wanted to have the tight stomach and, show off the abs. And so I was doing all this chest breathing and it's very shallow and it just does not work. And when I finally discovered proper breathing, diaphragmatic breathing through the nose, it was. It was like somebody flipped a switch. I think I did three or four breaths like that. And I swear I could feel my blood pressure dropped 20 points. So that can be a good starting point too, if you're in a fearful, depressed state and you're not sure where to start my own advice. And Dr. Northrop can add her own thoughts to this. Just sit down and do that diaphragmatic breathing exercise, breathe in slowly through your nose for, and actually some of the breathing exercises will tell you, hold it for four seconds at the top, hold it for four seconds at the bottom. But I found that doesn't work for everybody. I'm one of the ones that doesn't work for. I can't, if I tried to hold at the top, I find that causes my stress levels to go up. But if I hold at the - I breathe out and I just wait five, six seconds. And something that Dr. Verkerk discussed is you wait until your body's starting to give you a signal that says you need to breathe, just until, you don't push it too far, but just until you get that, and then you breathe in slowly. And I first discovered this about three, four years ago. And as I said, the first time I did it, it was all of four or five breathes. And they're just like, oh my God, I've been breathing wrong my whole life. And it's amazing what this can do for you to get you into that parasympathetic state, where you can start to think and take control of your thoughts and move forward from there. Christiane: So that's right. Will: I wanted though to address because we are getting close to the end of our time. Unfortunately, you know as well as I do, a lot of people have already died from these injections. Dr. Malone predicts 700 million will die in the next six years. Which means just about everybody watching this is gonna lose someone they love. Christiane: Yes. Will: And I know that this is something you know about, cuz I know you've lost two siblings in your life. What advice are you gonna give to people who are gonna lose someone that they care deeply about? And especially if they tried to warn them not to take those shots. Christiane: Oh, Ugh. All right. The only way around this is to understand that we don't actually die. We change form, but the soul is eternal. And one of the people I would listen to is Dannion Brinkley. And he wrote a book "Saved by the Light". He was hit by lightning in 1975 while talking on the phone. The rivets in his shoes melted, and he was dead for 20 minutes and then came back and he is had, I think, three other near-death experiences. So Dannion says, I've been dead a lot, so I know what it's like, he's also very funny. And I have worked with various mediums and so on and being in touch with my loved ones who passed to the other side and had really interesting things where once you're open to this, then you realize, I talked to a friend last night who told me about his brother. And he my grandmother showed up last night and he said, I know, you'll think I'm crazy, but she was there and she told me, this is your life purpose to help people learn how to walk. And now he's a biomechanical engineer working on these devices and the grandmother had been dead. So we live in a culture where you're told from an early age, you're making this up. You got an imaginary friend, oh honey, you're making this up. But people have mystical experiences, angelic encounters all the time. So the only way you're gonna be okay with these deaths is to understand a couple things. One, there's a thing called a soul choice. I have spent years telling people that the things we call vaccines and that's the conventional vaccines are neither a hundred percent safe or a hundred percent effective. And that just includes polio and all the rest of 'em. Now we get to this one and it isn’t even a conventional thing in any way, and yet with all of my credentials and New York times bestsellers and all in this kind of huge global audience. The powers that be were able to denigrate me and a whole bunch of people like me and they just, they found it so much easier. Just take the shot. This is a, what did Biden call it? This is an epidemic of the un-vaccinated. Now they're all changing their tune. We, all of us in this, we wonder when the apologies are gonna start, but we don't need them. And we all wish that we weren't right. We wish we weren't right about what we've been saying. You need to understand that it's a soul decision. We are in a moment in human history, that is completely unprecedented. We are moving into not the great reset of Klaus Schwab, but the great awakening of humanity and where we're going is glorious. So I believe that if you came here now you came to be part of this. If you're leaving, here's what I think you're leaving and you're gonna get over the other side and you're gonna go, what was I thinking? And then you'll be there. From the other side to help those of us who are still here building a new society that is truly free and doesn't involve the debt slave system or the Rockefellers or the Rothchilds or what, whatever the Kazarian mafia is doing and has been doing for thousands of years. I want people to know this is not new. They've been doing it. But since their plan has been speeded up they're throwing everything against us that they possibly can. And what does that do back to epigenetics? What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. And I remember listening to Zach Bush at the very beginning of this, he said something so profound. He said, okay, Wuhan. He knew about Wuhan. It is the most polluted place on planet earth. And he said anything that comes out of there. Anything that's living that comes out of there is going to be so powerful with new information that grows out of such death soup. That'll be very powerful in evolution because what does life want life wants to live. So we're moving from a death focus system to a life focus system. And this is how life is. So let the dead bury the dead and pay attention to where we're going and take the time to grieve when that comes up. And then anyone whose grieving knows that you go down first way deep into the grief, and then each time you go a little less deep and a little less deep. And in general, it takes a full season to get over grief and two years to really be back on your feet. So be very gentle with yourself. Will: Christiane. Thank you. There's so much that I could pursue just from this one book, but I know your time is limited and it was my intent with this interview to simply give people a starting point. Folks. I would very much urge you to read the book "Making Life Easy". You can find it at Amazon. You can find it at Dr. Northrup's website at www.drnorthrop.com, where you can also watch many of her videos, which she's produced quite a lot of. Christiane, could I ask you in that sense of proofing people against fear, against depression, against what's coming? And we all know that we've only seen the opening rounds. There's more, yeah. That we're all gonna have to live through. What will be your final thoughts for our viewers on how to prep themselves for that and be able to not just survive it, but thrive through it. Christiane: Find your group, understand that what's coming is glorious beyond anything you can ever imagine. And spend time every single day, asking yourself the question. If anything at all were possible quickly, easily, now, what would my life look like? And then spend about five minutes thinking about it, writing about it, clean air, clean water, children playing, everyone fit, no obesity, no diabetes, all humans coming together in celebration of who we really are. You have power, your imagination is power. Understand thoughts become things. Pick the good ones. Will: Dr. Northrop, thank you so much for your book and for your time. Christiane: Thank you so much.