(0:00 - 2:03) With a federal election very likely to happen within the next few months, Canadians will be going to the polls with a long list of concerns. In fact, there may be no other election in Canadian history when there were so many points of contention between the right and the left. Carbon taxes and environmental policies, immigration and the societal and economic impacts of mass immigration, potential tariffs of 25% from Trump's government, DEI hiring policies, the housing and cost of living crisis, and the state of our military are just a few. Adding to the debate are observations of Donald Trump's actions as U.S. president since taking office on January 20th, where President Trump has signed a laundry list of executive orders to return America to financial responsibility and government for the majority by the majority. Many small-c conservative Canadians are very much in agreement with Trump's decisions and openly lament that we don't have a party here in Canada with much the same platform. But in fact, we do. The People's Party of Canada, led by Maxime Bernier, openly posts their policies on their website in very plain and direct language. And those policies are very similar to those of Trump's Republican government. And furthermore, those policies were in place long before Trump was elected. Maxime joins me today to discuss the issues facing us in the next election and how the People's Party would restore Canada for Canadians. Maxime, it's a pleasure to have you back on the show. Thank you for having me. I'm very pleased to be with you today. And I'm really looking forward to your insights because I'm not sure if there's been a time in recent Canadian history when there's been so much upheaval in politics in this country and what's going on right now. So I wanted to start with the prorogation of Parliament. (2:03 - 2:19) January 6th, Trudeau announces his resignation. He prorogues Parliament in what to me is an extremely obvious ploy to avoid a non-confidence vote that would lead to an early election. Your opinion on this and what impact it's having on Canada because the very good case has been made. (2:19 - 5:27) Well, the Parliament's not in session. Nothing's happening. Yeah. Yeah. It's sad that Trudeau did that. You're right. He did it to be sure to stay in government. And actually, that's not a precedent. Stephen Harper did it in 2008 to actually be able to stay in government. At that time, the Liberals wanted to have a coalition with the Bloc Québécois. And they were ready to do a confidence vote. And Harper did prorogue the federal Parliament. So that being said, it is constitutional. You know, it is constitutional. And that's why the Governor General said yes. But the good news about that, the new or the future leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, Mark Carney, he will be the leader March 9. And he said in an interview that he will call the election as soon as he is elected. So that's a good news for us. I don't think that the Parliament will resume March 24 because we will be in election at that time. So for me, we needed to have an election as soon as possible. And it is looking like we will have that election. The election must be in April, maybe the second or third week of April. But yeah, we'll have an election. And we'll have a government that will be elected. And Carney wants to do that because he for sure wants to win. But he will ask for a mandate to be able to negotiate with Donald Trump. And Poilievre will do the same. So let's have an election as soon as possible. We are ready at the People's Party. And we will fight for real conservative family ideas, free market ideas, bold policies. And we may have time to speak about that today. Now, I certainly hope we will. But I do want one more comment from you on this, because when we look at the polls, where prior to Trudeau announcing his resignation, there was a wide gap between the conservatives and liberals. They were predicting a conservative majority. And then as soon as Trudeau announces his resignation, the liberal polls start to climb to the point where recently they're almost closed with the conservatives. And the thing that I think is significant about this is despite Carney's supposed popularity, the climb didn't start when Carney announced his campaign. It started when Trudeau announced his resignation. So what do you think is going through the minds of liberal voters? Is it Carney or is it just that we've gotten rid of Trudeau? Yeah, but what we can see right now, you're right about what you said in the polls. If you look at the polls right now, Polyev may be able to win with a majority, but Carney is doing very well. So that is showing me that the Conservative Party of Canada is splitting the vote with the liberals. (5:27 - 7:37) So not the People's Party, they are splitting the liberal votes. And what would happen, I still believe that Polyev will be elected with a majority. Look, if you look in the history of our country, you have nine years of liberals and people are fed up, and nine years of conservatives, people are fed up. Look, when Brian Mulroney, in 1993, when he resigned, he was not that popular and the party was not popular. And they decided to have a leadership contest. They put Kim Campbell, the first lady, the first woman leader of a national political party. She went up in the polls and she was very popular and the Conservative Party of Canada was able to grow in the polls and being competitive. But what happened, the liberal won with a huge majority and Jean Chrétien was the next prime minister. So people will vote, answering your questions, people will vote against the liberals, not for Poilievre, against the liberals. And now Carney is doing well in the polls. He has the support of the mainstream media. For the mainstream media, you know, the mainstream media is putting Carney, you know, like the new one and the best prime minister. So, but that will do a time and during the election campaign, the People's Party would be able to show why we must have a seat and people must support us and why, you know, the liberals under Carney won't change anything on big issues that are important for the future of this country. Thank you, Maxime, for your insights on that. I wanted to get that question out of the way because it's the only one where the People's Party of Canada's platform isn't directly relevant to the question. So now we can get into talking about not only what is happening, but what in your view should be happening. The carbon tax has been the most contentious issue. It's probably the single largest thing that this election is going to be based upon. (7:37 - 7:50) Obviously, it's Trudeau who's been pushing this thing. Carney was very much behind it, but now he's saying he'll scrap it. Although if you listen closely, what he really said was he'll scrap the consumer carbon tax and he's going to replace it with some sort of green initiative. (7:50 - 8:13) And he hasn't given us any details on that. Poilievre, of course, is saying scrap the tax entirely. I have two questions for you, Maxime. Number one, what has been the economic impact on Canada of these carbon taxes and what will be the benefit of getting rid of them? Because I know that you are in favor of completely scrapping them. Yeah. And so the cost for Canadians was huge. (8:13 - 8:47) You know, we are paying a lot of taxes and they added that tax. We are paying that tax at the pump every day when Canadians are going to put gas in their cars. So, you know, it's a little bit funny that Poilievre tried to do a campaign around the carbon tax. Axe the tax. Axe the tax. That was his slogan. Now, you know, the Liberals are in agreement with him. They are saying, yeah, we're going to axe the tax also. So there is no more election about axing the carbon tax. (8:47 - 9:21) Both Poilievre and Trudeau agree that we will follow the Paris accord. They will do everything to for our country to achieve the Paris accord targets. And Poilievre won't impose a tax. He may impose more regulations on businesses. And all these regulations, it's always a cost for the consumers. He will do everything to fight climate change. He will give subsidies to the green industry. And Carney will do the same. And like you said, he may come back with another kind of a tax. (9:22 - 10:44) We are the only party that is very different. It's not that we want to impose a carbon tax. We won't sign the Paris accord. We will withdraw from the Paris accord. We won't do anything for the climate. We don't believe that there's a climate emergency in this country. We will save a lot of money. We won't give subsidies to the green industry. We will promote oil and gas and build pipelines. That's the most important. But on climate change, Poilievre and Carney, the conservatives and the liberals agree. They want us to fight climate change. And they think that there's a climate emergency in this country. Right. And you know, from speaking to me in the past, I completely agree with me. The entire global warming, man-made global warming narrative is utter bull. It's not happening. It could be easily disproven. But you've got a problem there, Maxime, with scrapping it, withdrawing from the Paris accord, and that a lot of Canadians are still buying it. So how would you address that? How are you going to get across to these Canadians who still believe in this? I've spoken to especially young people, teenagers, who are not planning for their future because they're absolutely convinced we're all going to be dead in 10 years. That's just how infected with this idea they are. How do you get through to somebody like that? I'll do like you. I will speak about the truth based on facts. And yes, educate people on that. (10:45 - 13:06) You know, that's why we are in politics and not because, you know, against the Paris accord, because that is popular. We are not doing politics based on ideas if they are popular or not today. We believe we have a strong vision for this country. We are telling the truth based on facts to Canadians. And we believe that, you know, if it's not that popular today, the more we speak about that ideas, the more we speak about, you know, the fact that if if we can do everything in Canada and we won't save the planet, you know, Canada produce less than 2% of the greenhouse gases. But I want to educate people and to tell them CO2 is not a pollutant. It is a gas necessary for life. We need CO2. With more CO2, the planet would be greener. You know, so let's let's let's tell the truth. And it may take time, but it is more and more popular. And I must say, it's like immigration. When I started to speak against mass immigration in 2019, it was not popular, but that was the right thing to do. Now more people understand more more than 60% of the population, including immigrants, are saying enough is enough. We want to end mass immigration. So that's the way we are doing politics. We are not looking at the polls. We don't do any polls. And you know, our ideas based on the Western civilization values will win. It's a question of time. And that's why at every election, it's always the same electoral platform. We are doing politics based on ideas and conviction, and our time will come. Now in regards to immigration, you had in the past made statements about capping it about 100 to 150,000 people per year. But recently, you suggested that we need a moratorium on it. What's your reasoning behind that? Yeah, no, you're right about that. In 2019, in our platform, that was a maximum of 150,000 a year. And we said we must do that because we don't want to have gatos in our country. We need to control our immigration. We need to do an interview with each one of them that will come to our country face to face and asking the real questions if they share our values. That was our position. (13:06 - 15:38) Now, because the government didn't do that the last nine years, Trudeau did the opposite, opened our borders to everybody, more than 1.2 million foreigners in Canada last week, last week, sorry, last year. And so we cannot afford that. But with all these years, now we are at a point that we must have a moratorium for a couple of years, a pause on immigration to be sure that we will solve the housing crisis. Our standard of living will go up. The people who will come here will integrate into our society and not live in a ghetto. So that's why they didn't listen to us nine years ago when Trudeau was elected. And now we are in a position that we must do that. And it's in line with the population and Poilievre who are not in line with the population. Because for Poilievre, after, you know, I don't know how many years, he decided to put a number on immigrants and he said 250,000 a year, every year. For me, it is mass immigration. That won't solve anything. We need to stop that. You know, that's having an impact on our standard of living, our healthcare system. More people are coming. They need to have access to healthcare like Canadians. So it's having an impact not only on the economy of our society, but also on the social foundment of our society. When you have people who are coming here and they don't speak French, they cannot integrate our society, be part of our society. When they don't have jobs, when they're coming here and they're bringing their conflicts in their country of origin, we need to stop all that. 250,000 a year, it is too much. Now it's time for a moratorium and also deportation. Like Trump is speaking in the US, like Marine Le Pen in France, like the Reform Party of Nigel Farage in UK. They are all speaking about ending mass immigration and we know the impact of mass immigration. We can see it right now in Canada. And if we don't do anything, if we still open our doors to immigrants, 250 a year, that would be worse. (15:38 - 16:58) I don't want our country to be like in UK or in France, when you have no go zone there, when it's too dangerous to go there. So let's stop that. And at the same time, I must add that we must repeal also the Multiculturalism Act. That is destroying our country because we are telling to foreigners and immigrants, come here, it's okay. Don't integrate into our society. You can celebrate your culture, but you know, every culture is not equal. We need to stop that. We need to promote our identity, our history, our own culture in Canada. And we are not doing that right now. And the liberals like to justify this mass immigration by pointing to the GDP and saying, well, look, immigration is good for our economy. What they're ignoring is the gross domestic product per capita, which is being very negatively impacted by this mass immigration. Your comments on that. You're absolutely right. What is happening? Yes, the economy will grow when you have more people, but you know, the population is growing faster than the economy. And yes, I can say that the economic pie is growing, but our piece of the pie is smarter. (16:58 - 17:28) The GDP per capita is smarter. So our standard of living went down for the last 10 years. So we have the same GDP per capita that we are having today than we had 10 years ago. We are poor because of mass immigration. Now let's move on to tariffs. And I know that this is sort of the hot topic of today, but I think the other three topics we've already discussed are actually more relevant to the election, because this is one way or another, this is a temporary issue. (17:29 - 18:10) But obviously a lot of Canadians are rightly very concerned about the possibility of 25% tariffs. In fact, Trump even suggested there might be 100% tariffs on automobiles. You are the only party leader that opposes retaliatory tariffs. What do you think we should be doing, Maxime? What we should do? Trump wants us to reopen the free trade agreement that we have with the U.S. Actually, it is the free trade agreement that Trump himself negotiated a couple of years ago. And after that deal, Trump said when he was president, his first term, that is the best deal that U.S. can have with the Canadians and Mexico. That was the best deal. (18:10 - 18:34) And now it's the worst deal. What he wants, he wants to reopen that deal. That deal is supposed to be reopened and having another negotiation in 2026. He wants us to reopen that right now. What I will do, I will say to President Trump, OK, we are ready. Let's open that deal right now. (18:35 - 20:02) And we won't wait until 2026. And let's have this discussion. And we must put everything on the table. Yes, the automobile industry, the cartel of supply management in dairy, poultry and eggs. And I'm pretty sure that we'll be able to have a good deal with Trump. So what he's doing with the tariffs right now is a negotiation. And instead of telling him, reopen the deal, we'll have that negotiation. No, our leaders, Poilievre, Carney, Freeland and also former Prime Minister Harper, they're saying we must impose retaliation tariffs dollar for dollar. You know, when you do that, you will tax Canadians the tariffs that Trump wants to impose. That will be the American, American people, American businesses who will pay that. The tariffs that our government and our leaders want us to impose as a retaliation measures, it will be us Canadians who will pay for that. And Harper said, you know, there's a cost for our independence and we must impose these tariffs. So these leaders, Poilievre, Harper and Carney, they love us so much. They like us. They love us. And what they're doing for us, they will impose us. They will tax us more. That's the kind of love that they want to give us. (20:03 - 20:14) I don't want that. It won't be efficient. You won't win a trade war against the U.S. Let's sit at the table, put everything and start the negotiation right now. (20:14 - 20:29) And actually, Harper wrote a letter last weekend and he said, yeah, we will impose the tariffs dollar for dollar. That may create a recession, but that's OK. So they're OK to create a recession. (20:30 - 21:37) You know, Canadians would be poor. Some Canadians will lose their job. And that's OK for these leaders. That's not OK for me. And they're telling us that they're putting our country first and Canadian first. They're doing the opposite. They are taxing us. We are putting Canadian first. That's why we need to sit at the table, put everything at the table. And actually, if Trump is imposing these tariffs, he may impose the tariff only for a couple of months because he did fight inflation in the U.S. during his campaign. And Americans will pay higher prices for, you know, the products that are coming from Canada if he imposed a 25 percent tariff. So he's speaking about that to be sure that we'll open the free trade agreement right now and sit at the table instead of doing that. They're saying, oh, no, no, we will sit at the table only in 2026. But we will impose a territory tariff, 25 percent. That will kill our economy. (21:38 - 22:16) And that would be very, very bad for Canadians. And you're right by saying we are the only national political party in Canada. That is, I think, the interest of Canadians first. And we don't want to tax Canadians more by imposing tariffs. That would be us who will pay for it. Now, a couple of minutes ago, you said Harper wrote a letter. Did you mean Trudeau wrote a letter? No, Harper did write a letter. That was in the Global Mail. He wrote a letter and he said that for the tariffs, we must be everybody must be behind that idea to impose tariffs on Canadians. (22:16 - 25:31) And he said in that letter that that may cause a recession. But it's OK. That was Harper last weekend. OK, now, do you think, Maxime, that there's OK, I first of all, I agree with you that this is a negotiating tactic on the part of Donald Trump. But do you think that there should have been some greater humility on the part of our government? Because, quite frankly, he has a point. Our open borders, immigration policy and our loose control of our southern border has very likely led to the possibility that terrorists are getting into the US from Canada. Should we perhaps have had a more mature response and said, you're right, we've been poor neighbours. We'll fix it. Give us three months and here's our plan. Do you think that would have been a better response? Absolutely. And that's why Trump said to Trudeau, OK, the 25 percent tariffs, I want to impose it. I'll give you a month. What Trump is telling us, I'm giving you a month to show me that you are serious to protect your borders, that you are serious to fight crimes and drug traffickers, that you're serious to stop fentanyl. So I'm giving you a month. And if you show me that you're serious, I want to impose this tariff. That's a little bit bizarre that, you know, President Trump has the future of Canadians for him. It's more important than Trudeau. If you're the prime minister of a country, your first job is to protect your own citizens, to be sure that people will live in a secure country. But Trudeau did nothing the last nine years. And because of Trump, now Trudeau is acting in our own interests as Canadians by protecting our borders, fighting crimes, fighting drug traffickers and fentanyl. It took Trump to for him to do that. So and yeah, so that's that's a negotiation. And I believe that Trump won't impose that 25 percent because the Trudeau government is showing that he's ready to invest and protect our borders and reinvest in our own security. So that's the good news. We'll see in the beginning of March what will happen. But that was the solution. Sit down with Trump and he's right about that. Canada is a threat, a national threat for the security of the U.S. The last three years, you know, the the U.S. administration was able to arrest every year about 400 terrorist suspects, terrorists at the borders, and 80 percent of them were coming from Canada. And actually last year, they arrested 200,000 illegals coming from Canada. They don't want that. We don't want that. We need to be serious. And, you know, we need to do that for also national security interests. And now after nine years, Trudeau decided to act because of Trump. We may thank President Trump for that. Our country would be more secure because of him. (25:31 - 27:11) And I'm suspecting from things you've already said that had you been in a position to deal with this negotiating tactic from Donald Trump, your response would have been, well, number one, we're going to put a moratorium on immigration to this country. And number two, we're going to deport all the people who shouldn't be here. And that right there will fix 95 percent of the problem. Absolutely, absolutely. They're coming here. So now Trudeau is doing just the minimum because you're right. The big problem is our immigration policy. Let's have that moratorium and deportation like we have in our platform. For sure, you know, we'll be able to be sure that Trump will be happy and he would have to impose these tariffs. The problem is our immigration policy, the security of our borders, the fact that we don't reinvest in our own national security. We don't invest two percent of our GDP to protect our country, two percent of our GDP in our Canadian forces. Our Canadian forces are a joke. It's a woke organization. And, you know, we need to change all that. Now, one of the executive orders that Donald Trump signed on January 20th was withdrawing the U.S. from the W.H.O. And it was following W.H.O. directives that led to the disastrous economic impacts of the lockdowns, both here in Canada and the U.S. Should we be withdrawing from the W.H.O. as well? Yes, that's part of our policy since the creation of that party. And it's still on. People can go and read our policy on our website, People's Party of Canada. The answer is yes, we will withdraw from the World Health Organization. (27:12 - 27:58) We will withdraw from the Paris Accord. We won't give money to the U.N. for their socialist and globalist projects. We can save a lot of money by doing that. Yes, because we are putting our country first. And for us, it is not an empty slogan like Poilievre. It is the reality based on strong pro-Canada policies. There are people who believe that globalist forces are attempting to start World War III over Ukraine. And if Ukraine does get NATO membership, then all the other NATO members are obligated to come to their aid, which essentially means World War III. Do you think that should be withdrawing from NATO? I think Canada is an independent country and we must act like that. (27:58 - 29:31) We did that in the past. You know, remember Jean Chrétien in the war in Iraq. He said to our allies, the U.S., we won't participate in that. It's not our war. And that was the best decision. And I agree with you that Ukraine must not be part of NATO. Russia said that more than 10 years ago. You know, Kennedy didn't want the Soviet to have a base in Cuba in the 1960s. That was the Cuban crisis. And, you know, that was good. And Khrushchev said at that time, you're right. We won't put missiles in Cuba. We won't have a base in Cuba. And we said the same thing. And now we are doing the opposite. And the West said, yeah, it would be good if we have if Ukraine is part of NATO, if Ukraine is part of NATO, as you know, we will have a NATO base over there at the door of the Russian. So that was not good for the American in the 1960s. And now that we that they would change their policy and that would be OK for the Russian to have a NATO base at their doors when it was not OK for the US. So that's important. And I'm very pleased when Trump said Ukraine won't be part of NATO. We will have a peace with in Ukraine. And that's it. But for us, we did spend 20 billion dollars. You know, we gave that to a corrupt democracy in Ukraine. (29:31 - 29:44) I was the only one who said we must not participate in that war. Poilievre was saying to Trudeau that Trudeau must give more money to Ukraine. So I don't like what NATO is doing there. (29:44 - 30:49) And the question about us not being part of NATO, maybe we must think about that. But we must not participate in in NATO in the war in Ukraine or other wars. And I'm questioning our participation in NATO, because NATO in the beginning, that was supposed to be a defense organization. And, you know, it's not like that right now. They're at war. NATO is at war with Ukraine. And that must not be that. So I'm answering your question. I'm questioning our relationship with NATO. And that's not in our national interest to participate in these wars and for peace and prosperity. And so let's let's have a real national discussion about our role in NATO. You've already made comments about our military being a woke organization. And you are absolutely right. So whether we were members of NATO or not, NATO wants us to commit 2% of our gross domestic product to our military, which we are not doing. We're falling far short of that. (30:49 - 36:26) I'm certain most Canadians would agree, however, that our military right now is in very bad shape. We don't have nearly enough people in there. They've opened up the doors through their DEI policies, bringing it, I mean, they even, this one got me, I reported on this last week, they dropped the requirement for an IQ test, which just, I can't understand that one. It was the American military in World War I that popularized the IQ test because they were looking for a way to identify the people who would make good officers. And out of that, they determined that if you had an IQ of less than 83, you were not a candidate to be in the military because you were so abysmally stupid that you wouldn't even be able to dig a latrine properly. And now we've got our Canadian military dropping the IQ test requirement, as well as basically just opening the doors to non-citizens. Who knows who these people are? Seriously, Maxime, our military is, it's a disaster. How do we fix this? Yeah, it is a real disaster. Everything that you said, you're right about that. I agree with you for that. And also, you know, the 2%, I'm okay with that. Now the Americans are protecting us. They're the ones who will defend us if we have an invasion. So Trump is right about that. You know, be serious. You are an independent country, but act like an independent and sovereign country and protect yourself and invest the money to protect yourself. He's right about that. Now, before investing money in our Canadian forces, we need to, you know, lay off all these generals. They're woke, they're incompetent, having a new leadership, and that would promote people based on meritocracy. And yes, you know, if you want to be part of the Canadian forces, you need to have a good IQ. You need also to pass the physical test. We need to put the high standard if we want to have a good and a great Canadian forces. That's not the case anymore. So I'm absolutely right. We will reverse that organization that would be based on meritocracy, lay off all these generals that are incompetent, put people who are competent there, and asking, you know, if you want to be a member of the Canadian forces, you know, there's criteria to respect, and if you don't respect them, that's it. You won't be able to be part of the Canadian forces. Now, that does bring us to DEI directly, as we were just talking about in regards to the military. But another thing that Trump did on January 20th, he signed two executive orders to shut down DEI hiring policies in the US. Very shortly thereafter, Mark Carney made a public statement about how, well, it doesn't matter if our American neighbors are going to go to the right on this, Canada is going to remain committed to diversity, which basically is saying, well, we're just going to keep right on going with these DEI hiring policies that put in place people who simply not qualified for the job. Obviously, it would be great if your party could form the government, because I know that you'd shut that down. But realistically speaking, what can we as Canadians do to push back against this DEI lunacy? What they can do, they will be able to do something as soon as the election would be called. They just have to vote for the People's Party and send a strong message. We are the only one and the first one who spoke against that when it was not popular to speak against that. I spoke against that before Trump, you know, because that was right. DEI policies are not part of the Western civilization values. They are not. It's a of promoting people because of the color of their skin, their sexual orientation. We don't want that. We want to promote somebody that would be competent. And I don't care if you're black or white. It's not important if you're gay or not. It's not important. Are you competent in what you're doing? If you're competent, you must be able to be promoted. So that being said, yes, and you can save a lot of money by cutting all the funding that the federal government is giving to third party organizations promoting the DEI policies in the civil society. It's everywhere right now at the federal government. But at the federal government, it's easy. You're in government. You stop that. You do like Trump. In the private sector, you cut the funding to these organizations who are out there and promoting that in our schools, in our municipalities, everywhere. So that's our policy. And just bring a real common sense. And actually, right now, you have a majority of Canadians who agree with that. They're saying, yes, meritocracy, it's the foundation of our civilization. Let's do it. Let's do it. So I hope that by voting for the People's Party, you will send it. I won't be prime minister tomorrow. I know that. But we had 5% of the vote. If we can double that to 10%, we'll be more influential and we will win the battle of ideas. And we are there for the long term. But about that DEI, we must promote unity over diversity. We must promote equality of rights over equity. And we must promote meritocracy over inclusion. So that's our policy. (36:27 - 39:17) A major part of Pierre Poilievre's platform has been defunding the CBC. But if you listen closely, he's talking about defunding the English speaking CBC, not the French. What are your thoughts on that? Because Poilievre is doing politics based on survey and polling. Poilievre is not a leader, he is a follower. He is following the public opinion and that has been manipulated by the radical left. We are not following the public opinion. We have a vision. We want to educate them. Canceling your question about that is not speaking about defunding Radio-Canada in French, because that is not popular right now in Quebec. For us, it's not only defunding the CBC, it's defunding CBC, Radio-Canada in French, and all the money that the federal government is giving to other mainstream media like the Global Mail, like CTV. There's about $2 billion that you can save there. That's our policy. But Poilievre, he knows that CBC is not that popular in English Canada. So there's no big risks over there. He's saying that because that is popular, but following his logic. You don't want the media to be dependent on the government. You want the media to be independent. And if they're not able to be independent, if they're not able to raise money with their viewers, they will go bankrupt. That's it. And if they want to raise money with their viewers, maybe they will change their editorial policy to be able to be more in line with the population. So let's cut everybody, all these mainstream media, and we'll have better media. In regards to the housing crisis, if we did put a moratorium on immigration, if we did deport a few million people who are not Canadian citizens and don't really belong here, that would probably take some of the pressure off. But we'd still have a major problem in that housing prices have become so expensive that many young people believe they'll never be able to afford a home and they might very well be right. So let's assume that we were to get to that point of sanity where we shut down the immigration, we deported a whole bunch of people. How do we still fix this problem of the housing being priced way out of what the average young person would ever be able to afford? Yeah. So the question is, they are not able to afford that right now because of mass immigration, but also because of taxation. They are paying a lot of taxes. That's why we want to have a smaller government. We will balance the budget in one year by cutting, I said, corporate welfare, $10 billion, foreign aid, $10 billion. We'll be able to balance the budget in one year. (39:18 - 40:10) When that will be done, we will lower taxes to everybody. They will have more of their own money in their own pockets. That will help them to reinvest and buy a house if they want. So give more money to Canadians and they will be able to buy a house by also having a moratorium on immigration. On the other side, because we will balance the budget, we will have surplus, we will be able to ask the Bank of Canada to stop having that inflation target of 2% a year, 20% inflation is bad, 2% inflation is bad. When you have inflation, your purchasing power is going down. Your standard of living is going down. We need to tell the Bank of Canada, zero percent inflation target. Like that, you won't have inflation in our country. (40:11 - 40:48) The Bank of Canada won't be able to create money out of thin air. That's what they're doing right now. You have a balanced budget and you don't need to have the Bank of Canada that will buy Canadian bonds because you will have surplus and they will be able to have a zero percent inflation target. You won't have general inflation and do all that together. That will help families in Canada and they will be able to buy a house when we'll do all these reforms together. Elon Musk's DOGE has already cut billions from the American government expenditures. (40:48 - 44:06) Javier Milei of Argentina had balanced their budget in two months. How long do you think it would take if we had a government that was really committed to doing this, to doing what's been done in these other countries, cutting all the unnecessary expenses, being responsible, being transparent? How long do you think it would take Canada to balance our budget? A year. It can take a maximum of a year. Poilievre won't say that. Poilievre is saying that he will balance the budget in a term, you know, four years. Carney is saying the same thing. If you're serious, you do that in one year. And speaking about DOGE in the US, I said that when it was not popular in 2020. I did say that we need to have a department in Ottawa that will be in charge of downsizing the government, having a smaller government. That department must ask questions. The first one, if the government is doing one function, is it a function that is better done by the government or the private sector? If it's the private sector, you give that to the private sector. The second question, if it's a function that the government must do, you must ask the question, which government, the federal one or the provincial ones? If it's the provincial governments, you give that function to the provincial level. And that's why you have a smaller government. By doing that, you respect the constitution and you don't interfere in provincial jurisdictions. You are giving more autonomy to every province. So yes, that department of downsizing the government will be in charge of that. And you'll be able to have a smaller government and more freedom and more money in your own pockets because we'll have a surplus and we'll lower taxes to everybody. Narshin, my last question. You've made comments about either scrapping or doing a major reform of the Indian Act. Your reasoning behind that and your comments on UNDRIP, please. We must not go ahead with UNDRIP and all these ideas or treaties coming from the UN. We are a sovereign country. Yes, we want to get rid of the Indian Act. We don't have systemic racism in this country, but we have racist legislation. That is the Indian Act. It is based on race. We must abolish that. And we must have a new agreement with the First Nation based on the Western civilization values, respect. And I want them to be in charge of their future. Now, you know, in some reserve First Nations, they don't have drinking water, clean drinking water. And that's supposed to be the federal government in charge of that. No, that must be them. We must have that new agreement. And that's why, you know, I don't want the UN telling us what to do. So we won't sign any treaty with the UN. We won't go on. We will fight back because it's against our own sovereignty. Yes, our goal is to protect the sovereignty of our country and our territory. And that's why we won't participate in these projects promoted by the UN. (44:07 - 48:50) We won't do anything. We are sovereign and we want to do things that would be good for Canadians, not for the UN. And I think I should point out that at least one of the chiefs has come out publicly in support of that idea. Oh, yes. I was able to meet some chiefs across the country, a lot in B.C., and they want to have more autonomy. They're ready to, you know, have a new agreement with the federal government. Let's do that. Let's have negotiation. And we will be able to solve that together here in Canada. We don't need the UN for that. Now, I'd like to finish this out with your final thoughts for our viewers and fairly open-ended, but I want to put into a certain context first. As you pointed out earlier, 2019, the People's Party of Canada, 1.6% of the popular vote. 2021, up to 4.9% of the popular vote, almost tripling it in just two years. I'm a little bit puzzled because I speak to a lot of conservatives, and I mean conservatives of small C, who are very much in favour of the People's Party of Canada's policies, platforms. They make a great deal of sense. And yet, you're really having a hard time getting traction. Why do you think that is? Why are not more Canadians going, well, yes, look at the policies. This is what Canada needs. Yeah, that's a big challenge. Actually, first, because a lot of Canadians don't know that we exist. We are cancelled by the mainstream media. And you know, I want to thank you for inviting me at your show. That's what I'm doing, a lot of podcasts and meeting people in person, but also on social media. And when people can look at our platform, usually they will support us when they know our platform. Sometimes some conservative voters coming from Western Canada, they're going to say, oh, you know, we don't want to split the vote. We will vote for the conservative. Actually, you don't split the vote. I don't split the vote. The liberals and the conservative are splitting the vote together. Look at the polls. Poilievre wants to have the support in the big cities like Vancouver and Toronto, where the leftists are. And I'm telling Western conservatives, Poilievre is taking your vote for granted. He won't withdraw from the Paris Accord. He won't fix the equalization formula by being radically less generous and fair for every province. He won't stop the mass immigration. So a lot of important issues. Poilievre won't address that because he's taking your vote out West for granted. What I'm telling you, you know, we will support Poilievre when he will be a real conservative. But you need us because we're going to keep him honest. We're going to push him in the right direction. And we will be your insurance policy that Poilievre will do what is good for you. So there's no risk voting for us because, you know, if you want something, you have more chances to have what you want if you vote for what you want. If we grow our percentage of the vote from 5 percent to 10, we will be more influential. And 10 is an average across the country. Around 10 percent, that will be the time when we may be able to have some candidates elected. And so that's why, you know, stick and be out there. There's no spitting the vote. We are so different. If you believe in our ideas, vote in line with your conscience and, you know, we will fix that country together. Maxime, thank you so much for your time today and for your continued hard work with the People's Party of Canada. I certainly hope that things do turn out to see a much greater popular vote in favor of your party in this next election and hopefully even some seats. Yeah, I appreciate that. Well, thank you very much for giving me that opportunity to be with you, to speak with your viewers. And my message to your viewers, if you're a podcaster or YouTubers and you want me at your show, I'm open to that. Write to us at info@peoplespartyofcanada.ca. And see if you want to know more about the People's Party, go on our website. You know, you'll be able to read our platform on all these issues. We have 21 policies there. It's on every issue. There's two pages, easy to read. And that would be very, very clear. We are fighting for you, but we need you to support us to be more influential and to change, to start that common sense revolution in this country. Thank you for again. And let's stay in touch, Will. If you need me another time, I'll be ready to be with you. Thank you so much, Maxime.