Will Dove  00:00 As many of you are familiar with Josh Alexander, the young man from Ontario, who has been harassed and arrested for protesting the trans agenda, but he's hardly the only young person in our country who's fighting for our rights. I have with me today, Devlin Gannon, some of you will recognize Devlin. There was an incident here in March last year at a protest in Calgary, where Devlin was accused of assaulting a police officer. But that's hardly the whole story. Devlin, thanks for being on the show.   Devlin Gannon  00:35 Thanks for having me, honestly. And you're right, Josh has really stood up for some important rights. And people of our age and of his age are kind of quiet in this day and age right now, as far as the things that we see going wrong. Go. And I just hope that more of us see the light and kind of come forward to bring the fire for freedom, front and center in the world.   Will Dove  01:01 Right. But I think to put things in context, I should tell people that this is sort of the first time we've met you. We actually met at a demonstration in Calgary prior to this incident. So you've been active in the freedom movement for some time. Now, on the day that this incident occurred, you were there in a capacity as an independent journalist? Yes, you're filling what's going on? You were interviewing people who were there. Yeah. There was an altercation with the police that they started. Yeah. After which you were accused of assaulting a police officer. Now, folks to give your context. For those of you who haven't yet seen it, we're going to run that clip right now. Devlin, I've reported on this shortly after it happened in my news report. Right. And this was before you had taken the time to highlight on that video, the fact that you clearly tripped over somebody else's foot, you can see clearly in the video, I could see it. You were six feet away from it at the time. Yeah. And so I'm thinking this is absolutely ridiculous that you've been charged with assault for somebody you weren't even standing close to. But it turns out, that's not really the story.   Devlin Gannon  02:36 No, it's actually a little more curious than that. To be honest. The story has been an evolving one over the the time in which I've been, you know, going in and out of the court and having lawyers represent me. There's, there's new details that have come to light over recent months that have changed the view I have on this whole assault charge, still, obviously an assault charge, but they're claiming something else entirely, then the video, you can't really see in any of the video footage, because from what happens like I get kind of drugged pretty far back, a lot of police are on top of me just dogpiling. And during that time, I get tased and I'm being punched by them. And that's the time in which now they're claiming the assault took place. And the details in which surrounds this assault are kind of laughable, but they are they're serious, because you know, I'm facing a seven day trial over this. But   Will Dove  03:39 let's fill it in a seven day trial with potentially What if they find you guilty?   Devlin Gannon  03:43 Jail time of upwards of three years. So then that's, you know, no criminal record in my history. So that's what I'm facing with my first ever   Will Dove  03:52 And how old are you?   Devlin Gannon  03:53 I'm 27. Yeah, right. So yeah, there are so claim is during this time, which I'm being dog piled on and manipulated into a pretzel and have no control over my limbs that I grabbed the private parts of one of the officers who was in this dog pile, again, in which I have like, no control over my limbs. They're like, behind me being manipulated in every way. And yeah, they're claiming that his junk was grabbed during that time, and that's what my assault charge is.   Will Dove  04:26 Okay. So now you've you've been through courts so far. Yeah. But your actual hearing the seven day trial we're talking about?   Devlin Gannon  04:35 Yeah, that's not scheduled to happen until well, March of 2024. So right, two years, like it's actually March 18 of 2024. And the incident happened on March 19 of 2022. So we're one day short of exactly two years from the incident taking place. Yeah. And then the trial actually starting so but   Will Dove  04:59 you've you've looked at the law on this and made reference before we started the interview when we were chatting, that the right to have a fair and speedy trial means what?   Devlin Gannon  05:10 Well, 18 months, right? You didn't want maximum? Yeah. And so they're putting it two years 24. So it's already past that. And it's gone through multiple different judges for these dates, right, so that they're aware of the Jordan period, which is what they call the right to speedy trial. It's not written in our like, in our Bill of Rights or constitution or anything. It's it's a previous precedent set in, you know, federal court, or someone went against the court saying, I have a right to a speedy trial. And the court ruled, yes, you do. And they said it at 18 months. So it's kind of like a case law thing where you bring up and say, here's the case where the court ruled that individuals have a right to a speedy trial of 18 months. And that's just a precedent that's already been set. So any judges should be like, Okay, that's a law, that's something that we have to abide by. And it's not being abided by here. And personally, like I've been in the courts myself during periods of self representing because I've been in between lawyers. And I've sat there waiting for my turn to speak with the judge and and heard him dealing with other cases in the courtroom that day, where a date would come up for the next or for trial for this, you know, individual and it would be longer than 18 months. And the judge would bring up specifically the right to speedy trial, the Jordan period and how it needs to be before that. I've literally heard this mentioned by a judge multiple times in the courtroom. And then whenever my case comes up and is dealt with, it's just silence crickets, nothing mentioned about it. So.   Will Dove  06:44 So I think we have to move on to the very important point that the officers claimed to the assault in his own statement, doesn't clearly identify you.   Devlin Gannon  06:52 Yeah, no, he, in his written words, specifically says someone. And that's it. Like he says, specifically because he's got me in a headlock. He's taking me down on top of them pinning me on the ground while other officers are manipulating me and he's headlock and me against his chest. And he says that he feels someone grabbed his junk, right? And that when I get tased, and when he hears the tasers being initiated, that's when he feels it stopping. Which I mean, if you really think about it, I'd be tensing up grabbing harder anything on grabbing on to well being tased, which I can attest to, I was tense and not grabbing on to anything because my, my arms were manipulated. And I've received body cam footage through my disclosure, right. So I have lots of my own footage. But I've also seen their footage, and I've had to ask for more and more and more because they never provide you with everything. And but even from what I've received. Again, the footage I had was limited, I couldn't really hear or see what was going on in the dogpile until I received this body cam footage. And you can hear at one point, the officer yells out, he's grabbing my cock, he's grabbing my car. That's what he says. And I had like, obviously, in the midst of it, I didn't even hear this going on. I'm like being abused at the point that this is happening. But anyway, so having learned this, I'm going through the footage second by second trying to find out like proving them not. And through the footage I have. One officer has my right arm, it's up. And my hand is literally bashing against his body cam footage, like you can see my hand and fingers just mashed up against his hand as he's pinning it. And then so that eliminates that hand. And that's during the time you can hear him yelling out that his junk is being grabbed. So right hand eliminated. It's up against this body cam   Will Dove  08:45 that he said you have that footage? Yes. All right, folks, can we can we share that?   Devlin Gannon  08:50 I can't unfortunately. I mean, at this point, you'll have to write your description. Yeah, it's just it's done. I understand that that has to do with the court case. So yeah, but I'd like to make a couple of points here. Okay, of course.   Will Dove  09:03 I'm obviously a fairly physical guy myself. I've got training in martial arts. And I can tell you that when you get to half a dozen cops laying on top of you, who are all substantially outweighed to you and trained and trained. First of all, there's a very low chance that you could even really feel what your hands are touching, even if they're free. Yeah. Because of all the pressure that's on you, and all the ways that people are moving around. Yeah. This is absolutely in my mind ridiculous that what we're talking about here is hearsay, on the part of a single cop with no witnesses. In a situation where it's extremely unlikely that you would even have been aware of what you would have been touching if you even had a handfree which have already said you didn't hear because both of them were canned. Yeah. And yet they continue with this persecution. Yes. And so I have to ask the question, because you've been in the freedom movement for a long time. What do you think this is really about? because it doesn't make any sense.   Devlin Gannon  10:01 No, it doesn't. I mean, truthfully, like, if I was to really go and tell you what I think about this whole situation is like it's a prime situation for them to set an example to make a precedent set for independent journalism, even if I'm on the smaller side of that. I mean, we've seen the federal government, government, sorry, put out the rule. Now, we're essentially in you, if you don't get accreditation through the federal government, you're not a news agency, right? You don't get to go to their meetings and be there to ask the questions to our political members, unless you're an accredited news agency. And you don't get that license unless you get that now through our federal government who decides, right? So that being said, like, under their eyes, or in their eyes, I'm not a journalist, I don't run a news organization or a news website. I'm just a person. They don't I'm not accredited. So again, that's like pretty large scale to really look at this like, but it was very recently, when the government made that a thing when this happened to me, it was only like maybe a couple months after that when this whole situation occurred. And so obviously, I'm going at this to the courts from the angle of being a journalist being there, having covered us of this stuff going to everywhere, all over Alberta, being at Coots being anywhere, I could be right, and always covering things. So obviously that's how I'm going to the courts with this says I was there as a journalist, I wasn't there protesting I was there working. And this is what happened. And so they don't see me as the journalist. And on top of that, they don't like what we stood for. Right. So it's, it's an example for them to say, I think,   Will Dove  11:46 no, that's the comment about not seeing you as a journalist. Right. None of us in the freedom movement, who are journalists are accredited. So yeah, you're calling about that. Yeah. And even if we did get accreditation, all that would take us one question they don't like before they pull that exactly. Right. So let's forget about that. Yeah. I think you should explain what led to this altercation. While you were there exactly what you were doing at the time that all of this started,   Devlin Gannon  12:10 right? Well, so I mean, on the day of I was doing my normal typical thing of interviewing people, I had got like four or five that day, covered the events of the rally in the speeches like I always did. And to cover a bit of context of what was occurring in the city, these rallies had been growing and growing and getting quite large. The police were having to deal with them every weekend. And obviously the city council was fed up with it, they were doing anything they could to try and stop this stuff. So an injunction was put out on the city were essentially like these rallies couldn't happen in a public park anymore, because you weren't allowed a sound system. You couldn't use megaphones. And you couldn't disturb the enjoyment of the park for other individuals is essentially what they're trying to say. So with that being said, people showed up in the normal Park where the rallies happened. The announcement was essentially made where this is going to happen at City Hall. And it was done like this, you know, no, no megaphones, no loudspeakers, people yelled out, everybody walked to City Hall. So we all went to City Hall. It wasn't a park, because it's not a park. It's a public space. So they had the loud system and sound system set up there. The rally went on as normal speeches happen, there was a bit of singing even and it ended. But, you know, over half, if not more of the attendees of the rally that day, had initially parked in the area around the park where it usually happens. So after it ended at City Hall, everybody travels back to the park where they were around to get to their vehicles. And during that march back there, even you know, we weren't allowed to be on the streets for this injunction as well. There was no disturbing the flow of traffic and everything. Because prior to this, the streets were getting shut down because it was like 1000s of people marching down them. So this time around, it was you know, legal walking on the crosswalks, lots of people on the sidewalks and getting there properly. Once we got there, we come to find out and this is something I've learned after the fact through like research through different news organizations that have provided the information that Antifa had showed up in the park that day, we had all left the park to go to the rally at City Hall, but Antifa had showed up in the park we initially were at and we're probably confused as to where we went because this park was the park we had rallied at for like months on end every day. And even the police chief the day before with this injunction said the rally will still happen at this park central Memorial as long as we don't use loudspeakers and everything. So anyways, Antifa shows up there they're probably confused why nobody's there but the police are there and they do You know, deal with Antifa, as you say, there were a couple of arrests made on that end, like a couple Antifa members were arrested. And by the time our rally ended, we had zero knowledge of that even happening. Like personally, I had no idea that Antifa had even showed up in this park blocks and blocks away from where we were, we march back there, that's where my vehicle is. And once we get there, I see that there's a lot of police there. And I'm a little bit confused, because that's not where we were. And then I see that they have like a group of people kind of quarantined off in the corner, and I come do you know, to learn, oh, that's definitely anti Antifa. I had seen them at rallies before they, you know, wear masks and have flags, blah, blah, blah. So we just stay on the other side of the park, the police had already made a line across the park where we couldn't go over there. So that was what it was, I kind of looked for a couple more people interview and was about to leave to my vehicle. And then I see the police are pushing their way, like across the park into the crowd of people that I had come there with   Will Dove  16:02 about how many police were there. And about how many people were left, I would   Devlin Gannon  16:06 I would say the crowd size would would be a conservative, maybe 1000. The rally size that day in total, was probably about 2500 to 3000. And after it ended at City Hall, there was like a big dispersal. And a fair bit of people came back to that park, but not everybody. So it had definitely   Will Dove  16:29 at least 1000 people there. Oh, yes. No. Ops were put ops   Devlin Gannon  16:33 wise, I'd say like 100, there was a large line of police all the way across, there was still a huge group of police with the crowd of Antifa behind that line way over there. And then they also had a line, like kind of like a square, you know, pushing the whole park out.   Will Dove  16:53 I gotta ask you as somebody who's probably been to even more demonstrations than I have, right? Doesn't one cop every 10 People seem a little excessive for peaceful demonstrators.   Devlin Gannon  17:03 Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, as far as the precedent that had been set with our protests at that point was peaceful 1,000%, right. There was families, elderly kids, dogs, like every single kind of demographic that you can picture was there for freedom peacefully. And there had never been problems from our end ever. The police, many of them had even, you know, on the smaller side of things like the everyday cop that was there would say that they appreciated the cooperation and peacefulness of the group that had been rallying in the city for so long.   Will Dove  17:41 Okay. But before we get to more detail system, this is important, because I've been to plenty of demonstrations. Yeah, with three 5000 10,000 people. They're never seen more than a dozen cops. Yeah. Now, either. There were changes made to the rules, just prior to this   Devlin Gannon  17:56 demonstration, literally the night before for the night. Yes. So   Will Dove  18:00 let's explain what those were.   Devlin Gannon  18:03 What the rules were, like the whole, no sound systems, no loud speakers, even like megaphones that you can hold in your hand that was not allowed to be used in the park. And you weren't allowed to be disturbing the use of the park for other individuals. So you weren't, you know, like, you weren't allowed to be blasting sound out of a sound system. While a family's trying to have a picnic. You know what I mean? But then it's not like there was ever a people even trying to use the like these. There were 1000s of people at these things. The car was full. And it's a peaceful right to assemble it like that. It's it's a public park,   Will Dove  18:43 the demonstrator I've been to the only time a megaphone was ever used was to announce it was time to marching to let people know where we're going. And if there was a sound system, it was for speeches. That's and that was at City Hall.   Devlin Gannon  18:55 Yeah, the Well, at this point there. The park rallies did have sound systems like the central Memorial Park, we had been there for months. And there had been a sound system set up for the use of speeches. That was it.   Will Dove  19:06 Okay. But just just speeches mean, we're not talking about blaring like   Devlin Gannon  19:10 I sound like No, no, it was not a concert. It was voice. That's it. And and you know, it would end and the March would happen. And that was it. The night before this rally, they put out the even the police chief tweeted and had the whole statement saying that the rally can still take place in central Memorial Park still allowed to happen there. We just can't use the sound system or megaphones. And then the other aspect of that was we weren't allowed to march on the street because prior to this, the police had been shutting down major streets for the 1000s of people to walk down. And this time they said no streets shutting down so people had to use the sidewalks and stuff so I mean, everybody abided by that it was not hard to   Will Dove  19:53

100. So but it's very clearly an agenda to stifle stifle that's a good word. Yeah. Don't stifle the people who are demonstrating for their freedoms. Yeah. And as you and I have both said at all the demonstrations you've been to before that we've never seen more than about a dozen cops there. Yeah. And then now suddenly, the next morning is like a home at least 100. Cops there. Yeah. And they're pushing people. And that's

  Devlin Gannon  20:17 the point in which I see I see that happening. They're starting to push people. And I mean, everybody like women children out, like all the demographic I explained before, they don't care who it is, if you're there and their way they're pushing you out. And I just keep saying, move, move. And that's it move over and over, like, I have the footage, you can see it. And so when I see that happening, I take my camera person, I'm like, we got to see what's going on here. And I see behind this line of police is the Deputy Chief of Police. His name's Chad Tawfik. Prior to this, I knew who he was. That's why when I saw him, I I'm like, there's the second in command of Calgary, the guy underneath the chief of police. So I'm like, if anybody is going to have answers about what's going on here, it's not going to be the goons who are pushing people right now. It's, it's going to be him. And so I see him I walk right up to him. He's standing behind the line of goons, so I have to be close to this police line. But I see him and I asked him, I   Will Dove  21:13 know you and you have the footage of it. Yes, I have so that we can share. Yes. All right. So folks, we're going to insert that footage right here.   21:21 We're not breaking any laws here with that injunction. What is it? What is it to be in the park? Yes, we are more   Devlin Gannon  21:29 worried, I'm by myself by myself. So after that conversation happens. And I mean, he even blatantly lies during it saying the group of 50 that's not on the injunction that he says you can't be in a group of more than 50. And it's not part of this injunction anywhere group size is never mentioned. But aside from that, like you can hear me saying I came here alone. And then things just escalate from there, as I'm standing there asking him the questions that he's answering. I'm not just talking to him, the goons that are there pushing people back, one of them grabs the color of my shirt. And so I tell him, like don't touch me, and I kind of like push his hand off my shirt. Don't grab him or anything. But I'm like, Don't touch me. And then he picks me up, he walks me back about four steps, you know, but my clothing and then tosses me back into a group of people and I land on my feet. And I'm like, Whoa, like all the footage shows from that point forward. Really the whole interaction of him, having grabbed me walking back from me. And then by the time I land on my feet, I'm like, standing there like, whoa, what was that about? And I say that, like, what, what the heck was that for it do anything? And why are you pushing me I was talking to literally the guy in charge of them was answering my questions. Yeah. And and so at that point, I'm standing there. And I'm like, What was that for? And then they surround me and they grabbed me and they, they pull my shirt off me. And then by the time they pull my shirt off me, they don't have control of me still, I stand back up. I take a couple steps back because I'm like, What is going on? And then I don't even run. I'm like, over and over again. In the footer. You can hear me say what did I do? What did I do? I'm looking around at any cop. I can see like, what do I do what's going on, and they just pounce and surround me and take me down to the ground and so on and so forth. Everything escalates from there. But you know, the the assault charge claim happens. Like I said, during the dogpile, where they're claiming, I grabbed a dude, the footage showed and, and the statements even say that I became assaultive towards an officer and pushed him to the ground. I assumed that was what you can see in the footage of the officer falling and tripping over someone entirely, not even me. But that's not even what the assault charges claiming the actual assault charges him claiming that his you know, private area was grabbed. So   Will Dove  23:53 Devlin doesn't seem odd to you that in our society, it's perfectly okay for cops to push peaceful demonstrators who are not armed, who have not committed an act of violence, who are not about to commit an act of violence. They can commit assault. Yeah, we are not allowed to defend ourselves.   Devlin Gannon  24:08 You're not even allowed to like ask what they're assaulting you over at the moment, apparently, because that's what I was doing. You know, I simply was inquiring. So what reason? Are you pushing these people out of the park? Maybe you could tell us why you are pushing us out of the park. You know, that was the whole purpose of the interaction in the first place was if you're going to push us out. Why? And it just, I couldn't even get a straight answer from there. And obviously, they didn't like my questions. And if   Will Dove  24:39 people haven't connected the dots yet, it's fairly clearly intended to do that, because they wouldn't have shown up with 100 Cops if they didn't.   Devlin Gannon  24:45 Yeah, and it clearly the moment there was any little morsel of something for them to jump on. They were all over it and clearly, like, literally they were jumping all over it so   Will Dove  24:59 so I'm not a lawyer. And I'm not involved in the case. So I can say what I think. And what I think is they were looking for someone to persecute that day. Yeah, you had a camera. Yeah. And that made you an easy target.   Devlin Gannon  25:13 Yeah. And I had been, like at these rallies front and center with my camera and my microphone, many times, and, like, not specifically interacting with police, but they knew who I was, like, I had seen them, I had spoken with multiple of them different times, never a negative light, as we see here, but they knew who I was. And they knew I was covering these things. And like I had been, I had pointed out things they've had done wrong in the past with certain situations, much more minor than this. But, you know, revolving around things that have happened here in Calgary, like, times down at the without papers, pizza rallies, where they got a little more aggressive than they should have with other people. And you know, I documented it, I put out videos about it, and named the police doing it. So they knew who I was. And I guarantee you that it wasn't just like, oh, this is a, this is the guy that we're going to do right now. They're like, this is the perfect guy, this is the guy that has been here has tried to paint us in a bad light, or paint the truth of the situation as they see in a bad way. Because we know they don't want the truth to come to light. So it was a prime opportunity for them to do it. And I realize now that maybe my my aggressive fu against the government, and being in the face of them has put me in the situation. But it's the situation that someone would have have to be in no matter what, it doesn't matter who like you said they were looking for it that day, it would have happened to somebody I think no matter what, if even if it was just your fiery, spirited freedom lover, who asked them, why you're pushing us out of the park and didn't want to keep getting pushed back by a police officer, they would have pounced all over him too. I just happened to be the guy who walked up with a camera to try and really expose what they were doing is wrong and you know, became an opportunity for them to make an example, I think,   Will Dove  27:17 definitely the final question, I'm gonna ask you something that so far, I've only asked to people who are closer to my age, you're the first person under 30. I've asked this question. But I think you're probably have a pretty good answer for it. Because you've been in this freedom movement for a while you've seen the direction our country's going in, you've stood up, you're doing what is right to try to recover our rights and freedoms. The question is this. How do you think we got here?   Devlin Gannon  27:42 Honestly, it can be said in a pretty simple quote, and I believe as Thomas Jefferson, its freedoms lost gradually by an uninterested in uninvolved people. And that's kind of the way that not only Canada, but the world as a whole has gone they've become uninterested in uninvolved in their government, it's become this, this overarching picture that they have in their head of just, that's the government, they'll do their government thing. And I'm the person, I'll do the person thing, where it's the other way around, like they work for us, we, we control them, they are only there because of us. And that's why they were established in the first place. And people are just not involved. They are distracted with all sorts of, you know, unimportant and divisive things that are meant to distract and divide society and they've become uninvolved entirely with government and, and the legal system. Truthfully, like most people only interact with this legal system on the most surface level ever, a parking ticket, a traffic ticket, a speeding ticket, maybe you didn't move for the street cleaner, like it's something so simple, then that's all they ever interact with. And they're never in the depths of the legal system. And they call it a justice system. But I truthfully, believe there's like no justice to be found there. It's a bureaucratic legal system where you find more illegal things happening than anything legal, and the backbone of the whole legal system is not morals and ethics and justice, it's dollar bills. That's it. And people have become entirely uninvolved in both of these things with society, government and the legal system. Like I don't know any lawyers and myself I didn't ever want to be a lawyer or be involved in this legal system. I can say I took part in the not wanting to be involved. I didn't have Faith in our government. So I uninvolved myself with it, I didn't have faith in our legal system. So I would never ever want to interact with it and would more so go the route of common law and law of the land before I ever tried to take part in this bureaucratic system that we've all accepted. And I can say, it's just been a big con. And part of that con has been to uninvolved us from the system. So we don't know that it is a con. So I can't blame people for being uninvolved. And, and not taking part because truthfully, why would you want to take part of something like this, but I choose to, truthfully say that like, the anarchist view of, we need to burn it down and rebuild from those ashes is going to be a lot more painful of a process than if we could just have not let this get to where it is, you know what I mean? And so if we could just turn it around and use what was built for what it actually was meant for, and not let it be hijacked to become what it has become now and just be manipulating all of us, as essentially slaves under the system, like, I truthfully don't want to be an employee for the corporation of Canada anymore, because that's what they've created here. And people don't understand that because they are not involved. And I've only come to learn this through seeing all the wrong and just seeing how much of what they are saying is proper and what is right, is truthfully wrong. And and like, I know that on a moral and spiritual level that it's wrong. And so by seeing all of that wrong, I've decided that it's important that I take part in pointing out the wrong so that we know what's right, and that we can use the system and the way that it was designed, because it's not how it's being used now. And truthfully, it's because people are just not involved at all,   Will Dove  31:58 Devlin and how much have you spent so far on legal costs?   Devlin Gannon  32:04 It's been around like 15,000.   Will Dove  32:06 So and you have yet been able to unable to find a pro bono lawyer. And I was saying to Devlin, before the interview, I'm going to try to find him one. But I can't promise no expectations. So you're doing a fundraiser? Yes? And will you be able to provide us with a link for that that we can provide to people when this interview comes out?   Devlin Gannon  32:23 Absolutely. There is there's been during the time when this happened, it was very close to the trucker movement. So GoFundMe and gifts and go those crowdsourcing third party websites kind of had a very bad taboo to them. At that point, a lot of people, you know, had their bank accounts locked, because they were tracked through these third party websites for having donated to the cause. So just through the community, and through people I knew I was, you know, avidly told not to use them. So through this whole time, there's been an E transfer campaign for donations that has been set up. And that is where most of these legal fees have come from. Right, like I have paid out of my own savings, for retainer and for different payments here and there, obviously, but most of it has been crowd sourced because like I, the first one was $107,000 quote, for representation at this seven day trial. So that's like money. I've never I've never seen in my life, I could put downpayment on a really nice home for that thing, right. But outside of that, like I was banned from rallies and protests, my release conditions after the arrest included a band from rallies and protests. So it was kind of hard to crowdsource in the community that I was involved in without being able to go there. And so another aspect of besides email transfer was I you know, I built a wagon that had a TV screen on it, that you know, had a wooden arm with a microphone and a laptop and wireless Internet connection. So I could sit at home and live call to the screen on the wagon and interview people still down at the rallies and the other arm had a bucket on it for donations, and that was all going to legal fees. And you know, every dollar went to the to the legal fees so far, and then trial got set, and then I got the quotes for trial. And so the quotes for trial have just been pretty large. And now I'm essentially just trying to fundraise so that I can get enough of a payment to a lawyer to essentially convince them to take on this trial, like whether I can get the exact amount that they're quoting me for or you know, a little less or find someone else who will take whatever amount I can get to them. The fundraiser we are planning like an in person event fundraiser. It's the end of August, August 26. It's a Saturday and it's a full day like carnival event. There'll be a midway Lots of games, dunk tank live music, like food trucks bar, a movie at night with, you know, projected onto a big screen under the stars, it's going to be a whole big event, we got a big property that it's going to be hosted on here, right local in Calgary, so people don't have to travel far. It's literally like five minutes on the edge of the city. There'll be animals petting, zoo, horseback riding all sorts of stuff. And that's the main thing that we're planning here. And personally, like, I don't ask for help. I've never been someone to ask for help. I've always gotten my life on, like, I've lived my life very independently. And I hate asking for help in the situation. But truthfully, I feel like this is like a David versus Goliath situation where I have to ask for help now, and I'm learning to ask for help through this whole situation. But the best way I can picture asking for help is providing a experience for somebody. And that's what I view this as is this fundraiser is not only just a fundraiser for my legal fees, but it's a family friendly, full day event that I really want people to enjoy and have a great time at. And there's gonna be lots of things to do. And you know, if everything went perfectly, we'd do the freedom festival 2.0 in a year when my legal fees are all dealt with, just because people want it to happen again. And like I said, I don't want to ask for help. So I want to make a situation where people can come and have an excellent experience and have that go towards a cause that I believe is important. And that's well fighting for freedom. And in this case, it's my freedom. So   Will Dove  36:45 yes, definitely want to thank you for your courage and your integrity, for standing up for not just your rights, all of our rights, and for continuing to do so even in the midst of this persecution. You have my deepest respect and gratitude. Thank you.   Devlin Gannon  36:59 Thank you. Well, and I just want to thank you for what you you've done through this whole time, because, truthfully, we know that the mainstream media, is it just a source of lies, and my inspiration to even become a journalist and start with because of all the lies that I saw. And for you to be continuing to do this and spreading the word to anybody and everybody that you can, knowing what they're trying to do to the people who are doing that. It's something even above the act of doing it because you know that the cost and even though it's truth that you're saying the cost of truth right now seems to be exponentially more than lies and to keep to keep pushing. The truth is it's very inspiring, and I appreciate it. Thank you.   Will Dove  37:52 Thank you, Dublin. It's very kind of you