Will Dove 0:00 Vaccine injuries are rampant. From recent studies which show that everyone, everyone, who has taken a Covid vaccine has suffered at least some heart damage, to those who are now unable to work, the tens of millions of doses that have been administered in Canada have caused immeasurable harm. What is worse, is that we still don’t know if the body can heal itself. If mitochondrial DNA which has been reprogrammed by the DNA in the shots, will ever stop manufacturing toxic spike proteins. While scientists around the world continue to research to find ways to reverse the damage, there are, right now, effective treatments for the vaccine injured. Dr. Peter McCullough may very well be the best known name in this area. From the creation of the McCullough Protocol, an effective early treatment for Covid that has saved countless people, to his association with The Wellness Company, Dr. McCullough has worked tirelessly to help those either at risk from Covid, or who have been injured by the vaccines. He joins me today with a list of effective, affordable treatments that are available now, without a prescription. If you or someone you know has been vaccine injured, or if you are often exposed to the vaccinated and are concerned about shedding, this is a must watch interview. It is for this reason that this interview is being released free in its entirety. With such a well known guest, I could have put most of this interview behind a paywall and used it to drive more memberships at Iron Will Report.com. Memberships, the purpose of which is not to enrich myself, but to finance our efforts at our freedom organization, Strong and Free Canada.org. But my wife and I founded Strong And Free Canada to help our fellow Canadians recover and defend their rights and freedoms and to help people who have been harmed by our government’s draconian mandates. And so, all I will ask with this interview with Dr. McCullough is that you share it widely. In so doing, you will help us to help others. Will Dove 2:26 Peter, it's a pleasure to have you back on the show. Dr. Peter McCullough 2:28 Thanks for having me. Will Dove 2:30 Now I was in Red Deer recently, had the pleasure of finally meeting you in person after doing so many interviews via zoom, where you were interviewed by Jamie Sale and Theo Fleury. And one of the things that you were talking about there was the spike supplement, spike support supplement from Wellness Company and the nattokinase. And this is this is real hope for people who have been vaxxed, who have problems with the spike proteins, people who are being exposed to people have been vaxxed. So would you please explain how that works. Dr. Peter McCullough 2:56 This is a giant breakthrough. We had a key publication in August of 2023 in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, it was on the European Commission preprint server. Now yesterday we have a fully peer reviewed paper in the journal Cureus, which will be indexed on the National Library of Medicine, and our innovation is called Base Spike Protein Detoxification. What we've learned is that patients with long COVID and with vaccine syndromes have too much spike protein in the body. This spike protein is the spine on the surface of the virus, that little spiny structure. And what happens with the infection as well as with the vaccine, the body gets loaded with the spike protein, we can't get rid of it. The spike protein was engineered in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. So it's an artificial protein, and it's not amenable to human proteases so we can't digest it ourselves. We need assistance. What we've learned from the Japanese is that nattokinase which is derived from the fermentation of soy by a bacteria called Bacillus subtilis natto. That nattokinase, as a natural enzyme, you can take it in a capsule format, it does dissolve the spike protein for sure. And also a family of enzymes derived from the stems of pineapples called Bromelain. It also, you know, dissolves the spike protein probably at different areas of proteolytic cleavage. And then we combined nattokinase and bromelain with curcumin, which is derived from tumeric and that actually reduces inflammation and damage from the spike protein, that's actually even been shown in human randomised trials. So three natural products appear to be the solution for a very unnatural protein getting installed in our bodies from the virus, from shedding, and certainly in huge quantities from the vaccine. This is a giant breakthrough. Now the doses are standard. Starting doses are nattokinase 2000 units twice a day. That's what's in Wellness Company's Spikes Support. Bromelain 500 milligrams a day, and curcumin 500 milligrams twice a day. Curcumin, typically combined with piperine for enhanced absorption. Wellness Company offers a trio of those three in separate bottles. You'll find them elsewhere, online as well. So they're widely available. Probably takes anywhere from three to 12 months. I think people with multiple exposures or symptoms, probably 12 months to make considerable progress, but we've consistently seen patients get better. I can't make any therapeutic claims because there are no large prospective randomized trials. But this is something people can do they can take matters into their own hands. Will, so many patients regret taking the vaccines. Now they have constructive steps they can take. Will Dove 5:50 Yes, of course, and because they've taken the vaccines, now their cells have been taken over, they've been turned into factories for the spike protein so it's as far as we know, they may continue to produce these for the rest of their lives. The spike proteins are toxic to the body, which is going to cause inflammation, but if you can stop the spike protein, if you can dissolve it as the nattokinase does, then that's... it's not a cure, it doesn't reverse what was done but it stops most of the damage. Is that correct? Dr. Peter McCullough 6:17 It's true. It stops any more spike protein accumulation in the body, actually starts to reduce it and we have to hope sooner or later the messenger RNA an adenoviral DNA burns out, although, you know, the Nobel Prize was was given to Kariko and Weissman recently because of, you know, their innovation um pseudouridination of messenger RNA, replacing uracil with pseudouridine. The messenger RNA also has synthetic three prime and five prime analog caps on each end and everything we know about it, Will, unfortunately, this appears to be indestructible. Kariko said and, you know, and Weissman said that while maybe it lasts in the body a couple of weeks, that was a guess. Now we have a [unintelligible]. Colleagues found it circulatory at least for a month, it's as long as they've looked. We're crossing and colleagues found messenger RNA stuck in the human heart for a month. Röltgen from Stanford found it in lymph nodes for two months. We haven't had any type of view of is the messenger RNA there a couple years later, we do have an inference from a recent study by Braga and colleagues that found the spike protein produced from the messenger RNA, and there's a way to figure that out because Pfizer, Maderna have a particular signature, it's called a double p it the two proteins that hold it in the prefusion conformation. So in the laboratory, we can tell what is spike protein from the vaccine and what's from the natural infection. Braga found spike protein from the vaccine in blood circulating at six months, could be longer. Will Dove 7:54 Now, the nattokinase, it's an enzyme, and enzymes break down proteins. And I'm, I have to say I'm gonna pat myself on the back a little bit, because when we first heard about the spike proteins, one of the first things I said to some of the doctors I know was could we find an enzyme that would break it down? But now here's the thing that I don't know, and I'm going to ask you. Enzymes break down proteins, and I know that they can. Some enzymes will target certain proteins. So clearly, the nattokinase targets the spike proteins, but doesn't target anything else. Is there any potential it's doing damage elsewhere in the body by breaking down healthy proteins that we would want? Dr. Peter McCullough 8:29 No, it, uh... Japanese have studied this pretty extensively. Now it is a thrombolytic, meaning that it does break down fibrin, so it does break up micro blood clots, which is an added advantage. It is anti atherosclerotic so it influences some of the enzymes that participate in cholesterol blockages, lowers cholesterol itself. So, yes, it does target some other areas in the body. But then it all appears to be beneficial. It's got a wonderful safety track record. We're advising 2000 units twice a day. Chinese recently did a study at 10,000 units a day. And the safety limit is 80,000 units a day. So we're well below any type of safety threshold concern with bromelain, bromelain targets a whole variety of proteins and the FDA approved it as an enzyme, as a topical treatment in deep burn wounds in 2022, because it helps remove some of that thick proteinaceous eschar and allows wounds to heal more naturally. It's also anti microbial. The trick is to get these absorbed in the bloodstream. A lot of enzymes just don't get in the bloodstream. Recently, Tanikawa and colleagues have actually developed a blood test to measure nattokinase in the bloodstream. So we're very convinced that nattokinase gets in the bloodstream because a) it's measurable, b) it raises the D-dimer level which is actually a normal response to nattokinase. Bromelain gets in the bloodstream because it elevates the prothrombin time, another measure of coagulation. Bromelain's a slight anticoagulant. Other enzymes, we don't have great evidence they get absorbed into the bloodstream. But these two do. We do need to advise that they should be taken in between meals on an empty stomach. Otherwise, the enzymes get preoccupied in the food stream. Will Dove 10:19 Now, you talked about bomelain raising the D-dimer levels. And I'm wondering, does this cause any problems with diagnosis of patients who may be getting micro blood clots from the vaccines? Because that will also raise D-dimer levels, if I'm correct. Dr. Peter McCullough 10:34 Well, so to clarify, at rest, if a D-dimer is a proxy for micro blood clotting, and we found that out during the COVID pandemic, for sure. And what we've learned is that once we start nattokinase, the D-dimer level go up, that's a normal response, we shouldn't actually measure it during the initial phase of using nattokinase. So we anticipate once patients are on it for three, six or nine months, the D-dimer level actually goes down, and as the blood clots are resolved. So it's simply a matter of interpreting the blood tests. Now with bromelain, it elevates the prothrombin time because it's an anticoagulant. Let me tell you what, the COVID 19 virus and the spike protein are the most thrombogenic proteins and infection I've ever seen in my life. I had somebody come in no vaccine, but two prior cases of COVID. I, well, and you know, what, three foot blood clot in his leg, three foot blood clot, blood clot pulmonary embolism in a young athlete, just had COVID, no vaccine. And clearly with a vaccine, we can see catastrophic blood clots. And that's been published in the literature paper by Yasmin and colleagues, summarized with the messenger RNA vaccines, 1000s upon 1000s of massive blood clots. So this is well established in the peer reviewed literature. So what I'm telling you is that while we're dissolving the spike protein, it's an added benefit to dissolve blood clots, and actually thin the blood. And we have so many patients who are on blood thinners like Eliquis, Xarelto, Pradaxa, even warfarin, and we still use these products, and we just give people adequate warning regarding bleeding. The bleeding typically is minor, it's pretty manageable with dose adjustment. Will Dove 12:23 I'd like to talk a little bit more about the safety of the spike prot- spike support supplement that you were talking about before, because you did mention this, it is very safe. But it's just we don't know yet whether or not the body's ever going to stop making the spike proteins. We know from Dr. McKernan's work that there's DNA in the vial that's probably rewriting the genetic code of, of, within the cells. So my curiosity here is, let's say that we find out that that is the case, that people who have been injected, have been vaxxed, that their body is going to keep making spike proteins for the rest of their lives. Are they safe to keep taking the spike support supplement for the rest of their lives? Dr. Peter McCullough 12:59 They are. You know, Japanese use it long term as a cardiovascular supplement over years, if not decades. Japanese had been eating natto for breakfast for over 1000 years. So it's definitely safe. It's in a sense, a kind of a heart healthy product. We anticipate bromelain will be equally safe. Now, curcumin is derived from turmeric, has been used for for centuries for its anti arthritis effects. So it is safe. Now the Spike Support from Wellness Company is the leading nattokinase product because it combines with five additional minor ingredients that are probably important, including a selenium, dandelion extract, Irish Sea moss, and black sativa. And there are you know, data actually, the reason why these are added is our data, showing that these also can have a beneficial effect. It's interesting that a natural combination is the solution for this very unnatural reality that we that we find ourselves in today. And you know, Will, you know, what happened is when I we initially published this as a team from my clinics, we've been working on this for a very long time. And we under careful observation. That's where we, you know, ultimately decided we have to pull the trigger and publish this. We did not have large scale funding to do randomized trials, we would have loved to do that. But we didn't have it. The Biden administration, by the way, blew a billion dollars among COVID didn't come up with a single solution. We had to basically bring this to the world. And when we published it, we received crushing censorship across all the platforms, fact checkers, health feedback, science feedback, they all said, You can't do this. This doesn't work. How do they know it doesn't work? There haven't been any large prospective double blind randomized trials. How do they know I can't do this. I'm a doctor. I can do this. I can publish. It was amazing. So we knew we hit the right idea. By the way these fact checking organizations which traced back to the biopharmaceutical complex, in our book, this is this syndicate that's driving this worldwide agenda of, you know, fear with the virus and vaccination as the only strategy. This biopharmaceutical complex, they seem to know the answers, one step ahead of us. And so when we had discovered nattokinase, bromelain, curcumin, that's when we were struck. So if I would have said, Oh, listen, you know, drink Juju juice or do something else. They could care less. They've only censored nasal sprays, virucidal nasal sprays, because they work. Hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin. They've censored colchicine, budesonide, and monoclonal antibodies. So all this stuff that really works has received censorship or a tremendous you know reprisal actually for for people actually using things at work. And now we're seeing that with, now it's actually trademarked, McCullough Protocol Base Spike Protein Detoxification. Will Dove 15:59 Very good. Now, of course, we've got an advantage here in that, as you were just talking about, they're censoring things that work to the point of making certain drugs unavailable. Hydroxychloroquine is an example. But the spike support supplement's all natural. So unless you're here in Canada, where Trudeau's government is trying very hard to kill natural health products, hasn't succeeded yet, anybody can get this, and you don't need a prescription. Dr. Peter McCullough 16:22 You don't need a prescription. And certainly check your online retailers. But we have heard both in United States and Canada, plans to actually have a sweeping reduction of over the counter products available. And, you know, I recently I was in France. And just out of interest, I went to one of the pharmacies to see if I could get nattokinase, bromelain, and curcumin. Nothing doing, couldn't find it on the shelves. So I think people ought to be looking for their supplies right now. Wellness Company's a great source. But I saw on Amazon, there was another company that already packaged a trio. And if you just type in McCullough protocol based buy protein detoxification, I think it comes up number one in Google, that's going to take you to a variety of sites that can provide the product. I think everybody needs to stock up, because I don't know what's going to happen. Now that we've hit this discovery, it seems to be terribly important. I'm seeing people who are shaking, who could barely function and walk come into the office back to normal in about six to nine months. And it's so gratifying to see. Will Dove 17:27 And that I assume is because the spike proteins, the toxicity from that that's attacking the myelin sheaths on the nerves, it's causing these neurological problems. And when you get rid of the spike proteins, the myelin sheaths repair themselves, and everything comes back. Excellent. Now I'd like to talk briefly about things other than the supplement because I know that we've discussed this briefly in the past, but since we're on this topic of treating people who've been injected, or people who are being exposed to the spike protein from people who are injected, something else that we have discussed in the past is intermittent fasting. Dr. Peter McCullough 18:00 Intermittent fasting has a great theoretical role, Will, because the idea is intermittent fasting assists the cells in apoptosis. Apoptosis is kind of the planned senescence and cell death of cells and if cells contain spike protein, and certainly they do, that'd be a way to have them turn off and then, you know, undergo kind of their natural clearance from the body. So that plays a role also, it's great for losing weight. I'm doing it right now. I'm not as buff as you are, Will, I can tell you, I'm, I'm just a doctor. But you know, I do it myself. Intermittent fasting, I think is is on base, it plays a role. Will Dove 18:37 Very much so and I practice intermittent fasting myself, most days, I don't eat until about two o'clock in the afternoon. And there's there's huge mental benefits as well as you know, that it really wakes up your brain and it makes you much more focused and clear. So is there anything else that we should cover talking about treating spike protein toxicity, Dr. Peter McCullough 18:56 Yeah, the couple other things. There are some some various agents that may manage symptoms. And this has been proposed, there's a paper by Lawrie and colleagues from the World Council for Health. I should mention, it's quite a long list. But and I can tell you in my clinical practice, I've worked on this for four years. So I do have a sense of what works and what's not. Nicotine can be used to help improve symptoms like a nicotine patch or nicotine gum. Low dose Naltrexone can help improve symptoms and neither one's going to touch the spike protein so it's purely for symptoms. I feel very strongly about this that if the blood test is anti nuclear antibody positive and a positive and the spike protein is triggered auto immunity, they should take hydroxychloroquine and patients can have a wonderful response with this. We learned recently that media personality Megyn Kelly had an autoimmune illness. I anticipate she's probably on hydroxychloroquine. If it's a cutaneous syndrome, slushing, sloughing, this dermatographia, these incredibly itchy rashes, ivermectin plays a role but it's pretty high dose for about three months, and I use it there. If it's plural pericardial chest syndromes, colchicine, like we used to treat myocarditis and pericarditis, plays a role. You know if there's clinical myocarditis that we use, I use a prolonged course of prednisone for three months full dose Colchicine. Japanese additionally use intravenous immunoglobulin or plasmapheresis. I've been following the Japanese on this. And then if there's early heart failure, we actually use beta blockers, ACE inhibitors, other drugs. So there is a whole field emerging of what's called post acute sequelae after the infection and after the vaccine. And it's ridiculous to argue one or the other since most people have both. A recent paper by Diexer and colleagues from Germany, 48,000 Germans with, quote, long COVID, 70% of them were vaccinated before and afterwards. So the bottom line, it's all mixed up together, patients are sick, and they need these solutions like we've discussed today. So I hope this interview is widely viewed by your by your huge audience. Will Dove 21:10 Now, I'm very curious about the nicotine because I'm a neuro hacker, which for my viewers, who don't know, is a variety of bio hacker. I use certain supplements to enhance my mental performance. And one of the ones that I do use occasionally is nicotine, a small dose of nicotine. It's an acetylcholine agonist, and acetylcholine is the most common neurotransmitter in the body. So how would this affect the symptoms in a positive way? How is raising the acetylcholine levels helping with that? Dr. Peter McCullough 21:35 The spike protein makes cells sluggish. And some some believe it's at the level of the various intracellular organelles like the mitochondria, but there's a sluggish there and people will complain of brain fog, just not feeling right, kind of out of sorts. And you know, nicotine, you know, nicotine available as a patch or gum is benign, is benign. Now, nicotine in cigarette smoke is harmful because the tar in the smoke causes harm, but nicotine itself is benign. And so I think it's worth it's worth trying. Will Dove 22:08 Yes, you know, as I say, I use it. It's a one milligram sublingual spray. If it's later in the day, and I'm feeling a little bit sluggish mentally, that'll wake you up for a couple of hours. It's it's really quite amazing what it does. Now, I wanted to address one more thing, because a few minutes ago, you were talking about myocarditis. Are there any new hopeful treatments? Because there was that study out of Japan, I'm sure you're aware of it, which showed that everyone who has been injected is showing signs of at least some heart damage. So do we have and you are of course, probably the world's number one heart specialist, so I'm asking the right person. Is there any kind of treatments that we're seeing now for that, for the people who have heart damage from these injections? Dr. Peter McCullough 22:50 The myocarditis story has been devastating. I had a physician in my office this week, Will, took the vaccine, didn't feel any chest symptoms, but it went into heart failure. Over the course of several months, his heart pumping function was down to nearly zero, and he was in deep trouble, hospitalized, pulmonary edema. And fortunately the medicines brought him back. But but you know, and now he's in a state of shock that the Pfizer vaccine did this to him. Two shots and a booster. What we know is that 90% of myocarditis is in men, it happens on the first second third shot, there's even a published fatal case on the fifth shot. So there's no there's no you know, acceptance of this. Krauson and colleagues found the messenger RNA in the heart. Baumeier has stained for it, found the spike protein in the heart, so for sure it's spike protein damaging the heart. And when it develops, you know, early on if we can hit patients with prednisone and colchicine, we can begin to reduce the inflammation. We have to treat heart failure early. Sadly, this man received no beta blockers. No ACE inhibitors, he slipped deep into heart failure. So I'm pretty aggressive on this. Heart transplantation is no answer. I've had one patient need a heart transplant. And that's just trading one disease for another. When I was on Joe Rogan, Joe presented the case of Simone, who, Northwestern University student who took 2 Modernas, went into complete heart failure, did a heart transplant at Northwestern and she died after the transplant. So we have to catch it early. I think that's a principal start treatment now we're very hopeful that the detoxification will be therapeutic for for the myocarditis since the spike protein is in the heart. We have seen people improve with other cardiovascular syndromes called POTS, Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome, atrial fibrillation, which is like an irritant type of abnormal heart rhythm that can be due to the spike protein. But those are the principles for management. There's no other immediate Silver Bullet now for this myocarditis. Will Dove 24:57 And I just wanted to ask one last question. It's about the spike protein, the myocarditis, because the spike protein is causing that heart damage. And as I, as I said earlier in this interview, we don't know yet, just how long the body is going to keep producing those spike proteins. So I'm going to assume that if a person has suffered some kind of heart damage from the injections, taking the spike support supplement, nattokinase, curcumin, bromelain, that that could prevent further damage. Dr. Peter McCullough 25:26 That's a theoretical basis. We can't prove it. I can't make any therapeutic claims. But that's the theoretical basis. I'm so worried about people presenting with the first manifestation of myocarditis being cardiac arrest. And that's the reason why it's critical. We believe in in this kind of practice, this theory and practice of medicine now, to get on detoxification now, to try to do everything we can to reduce this risk of spontaneous cardiac arrest in the future. Will Dove 25:57 Alright. Peter, thank you so much for your time. I know it's a very busy day, you you were with a patient just before you came on with me. Now you're off to testify. You're a very busy man. So thank you so much for taking time out of your schedule for this interview. Dr. Peter McCullough 26:09 Thank you