Will Dove 0:00 Last month, the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals Summit was held in New York City. Speakers from around the world laid out the UN plans to destroy our economy, shut down the fossil fuel industry, cut off our supply to essentials such as food, clothing and heat, and to imprison us all in 15 minute cities. Of course, they didn't say it in those words. The globalists pay marketing agencies to package these concepts in pleasant sounding words such as affordable and clean energy, Zero Hunger, quality education and sustainable cities. And much of what was said at that summit was not recorded or live streamed, and certainly not covered by mainstream media. Fortunately for us, two of Canada's top freedom fighters and investigative journalists, Jody Ledgerwood and Cris Vleck, attended the summit. They came away with reams of documents and videos that reveal the real agenda. In this interview, Cris and Jody show us some of the materials they obtained and videos they recorded while they were there, and reveal the truth that we must all be aware of. COVID didn't give them the control they wanted. And so now they will attack us with climate alarmism and agendas to steal our rights, and subject us to severe restrictions on our freedoms under the guise of saving the planet. From the money supply, to food, to heating fuel, to our very right to move freely, their plan is nothing less than absolute control. And they are accelerating those plans, pushing ever faster toward a totalitarian one world government. Will Dove 1:58 Cris, Jody, welcome to the show. Jody Ledgerwood 2:00 Thanks, Will. Cris Vleck 2:01 Thanks, Will. Will Dove 2:02 Now, recently, in September, you guys attended in New York City, the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals conference. And you sent me reams of absolutely beautiful information from that, video clips, documents. Today, we're just going to do a an overview because, Cris, as you said to me, there's a lot more that you have to go through yet that you brought back from that. And I think what I want to start with is this statement from from Mr. Guterres, who is the, of course, the Secretary-General of United Nations. And I'm just going to share my screen and play that little clip. Because I think it gives us a good launching point for this whole discussion. UN Secretary-General António Guterres 2:43 Yet today, only 15% of the targets are on track. And many are going in reverse. Instead of leaving no one behind, we risk leaving the SDGs behind. So, Excellencies, the SDGs need a global rescue plan. Will Dove 3:05 And Cris, you were telling, saying to me earlier, this was the impetus for you guys going to this conference, because basically what we've got here is you're going to António Guterres, coming right out and saying their plans basically aren't working. They're way behind. And now they're wanting to accelerate things, which is not going to be good news for any of us. Your comments on that. Cris Vleck 3:26 Well, that's, yeah, it was a couple points in there that, you know, this was right on the heels of António Guterres saying that when there's another pandemic or an emergency and maybe an emergency of unspecified origins, he's the one who should sort of oversee all of the, all of the global plans. So we we've been watching him. And then he said, Well, no, we need to do this summit, because we're behind on at least 30% of our goals. And so we need to find a way to speed things up, which if you'll remember, I think back to 2020, when, when Trudeau himself said, well, the pandemic was a great opportunity for us to speed up our plans. So it doesn't bode well when they say things like that. So Jody, and I knew stuff was not going to get covered. And so we went there to go cover all of the sub events that weren't getting televised and whatnot, because those are there's a lot of things that come out of those, those events. So, for us, it was very important to go there because he had said that but also because he had said that they were behind, which means that if it's an info war, we're winning. And that's really exciting for us as well. Will Dove 4:30 Yes, Jody, your thoughts? Jody Ledgerwood 4:33 Much like Cris said, we've been studying the UN Agenda 21. We know that 2030 is a marker to make sure that they are on track to meet their, all of their goals by 2050. And knowing that António Guterres has been putting together plans of who's going to run the World Health Organization, who's going to run the One World Government, who's going to run the One World banking system and all of his plans include him being the pinpoint man to run everything. So when we saw all of this happening, and we're reading and diving further into the UN Agenda 21 and we saw that they're going to be in New York, which is relatively close to us, we just said, you know, we have to go, we have to report on this. Because at the end of the day, all the tyranny and oppression that we're all experiencing, and especially in the last three years, it all stems from the UN agenda. And if we don't know what the UN agenda, if you don't know your enemy's agenda, how can you beat them? So it was a no brainer, it's this close to home, we're going Will Dove 5:40 I think a terrorist has been underestimated as part of the globalist cabal. You know, there's a lot of focus on Schwab and Gates and certain other people. And hardly anybody talks about this guy. And yet, he's really sitting at the focal point of power, as he's making clear here. And as your comments just stated, Cris, you made a very perceptive comment a few minutes ago, when you were talking about unspecified emergencies. So basically, what they're doing is they're setting up the UN to be the head of a one world government, to dictate to all of us for an unspecified emergency that they get to define... Cris Vleck 6:16 Uh um Will Dove 6:16 ...and that's really where they're headed with all of this. Cris Vleck 6:19 Exactly. Right. You know, people, they focus in on certain things, and a lot of people are focusing on the World Economic Forum. But the thing is, the World Economic Forum is nothing more than a project manager for someone else. And that someone else is the UN is a lot of us is figured out because it's all stems from Agenda 21 And that's another misconception. Agenda 21 never went away. It didn't turn into Agenda 2030 or Agenda 2050. Those were just markers to tell how Agenda 21 is doing. You know, we turned it, printed off Agenda 21, it's like that thick. It's and we're still going through it right. And so they're they're just milestones in this Agenda 21. But behind the UN, and people forget that there's also the BIS, the Bank of International Settlements, and the IMF. And at the end of the day, always follow the money. Right? So people are getting closer and closer. But as we detangle these things, it's a very complicated web that they've built over decades and decades and decades. So untangling that is really, really tricky. But you're right, António Guterres right now is making a giant play to be in control of any kind of emergency. And that's climate emergency. That is pandemics. Those are cyber attacks. And then he did, they did specify unspecified emergencies as well. So he's trying to set himself up as the the ruler and commander of any kind of emergency, which we well know that they're manufacturing on a daily basis. Will Dove 7:42 Yes, let's get into those goals that they've got, once again, do a screen share here and show us once again, information you sent to me, have here are the five key areas for urgent action as defined by this UN committee. And I've folks, I've highlighted certain things here. If you watch my show, you know, I'm pretty good at translating double speak. So I'm gonna do translation for you and Cris and Jodi, I'm going to invite your comments on each of these. One, heads of state and government should recommit to seven years of accelerated sustained and transformative action, that's basically what we've just been talking about. They're behind. And so now they're going to push extra hard. And that, as we've already said, is not going to bode well for all of us. Jody Ledgerwood 8:24 Exactly. Cris Vleck 8:25 Yes. Will Dove 8:26 Okay, all right. So if you don't, no comments on that, well, we'll just move on. Number Number two, government should advance concrete integrated and targeted policies and actions to eradicate poverty, oh that always sounds nice, doesn't it? Except it's never been done. People have done that for hundreds of years, you can't do it, reduce inequality and end the war on nature. And that's the big one here, folks, the the war on nature, basically, this is doublespeak for go green, destroy the energy sector. Jody Ledgerwood 8:51 Exactly, and anybody who remembers, you know, grade three science class, we all know there's a circle and a cycle of life that must exist. And carbon is super important to that cycle. Without carbon, our plants all die. And by them talking about carbon emissions and Net Zero, they're talking about killing plant life, which inevitably, will kill us. And when they mentioned reduce inequality, they're just talking about getting rid of the middle class and putting everybody into the poverty class. Now, we're all equal, because now we all owe nothing, and we're all going to potentially be happy in our nothingness. Will Dove 9:32 Yes. Cris, anything to add to that? Cris Vleck 9:35 No, that's about right. I mean, the the war on nature where there were never was a war on nature. And that's the problem like we, you know, in Canada, they're saying that we're we're huge, huge violators of climate change and green energy problems. And the problem is Canada has more plant life to human population. And apparently we're worse than India and China according to recent Canadian studies. So the I don't know what the war on nature is. And for me the war on nature looks like it's self imposed when they start messing with carbon balances and water tables and whatnot. I mean, we've, it was like a clock and we had it working really well. And now they're messing with them while they're modifying weather and messing with, with every sort of aspect of nature that they can and they're calling that the war on nature. And that was never caused by industry. Will Dove 10:29 Right. Statement number three, governments should strengthen national and sub national capacity, accountability in public institutions. What this means is essentially iron control over the populace. Jody Ledgerwood 10:43 Yes Cris Vleck 10:43 Yes Will Dove 10:44 Take away our freedoms, take away our ability to move, take away our ability to spend money as we wish, institute social credit scores, control everyone. Cris Vleck 10:55 Yes, the accountability, there is the key and all of that, you know, digital ID... Jody Ledgerwood 11:00 CBDC Cris Vleck 11:01 ...CBDCs, exactly and just make sure that we are within a system. And by accountability, they mean if we violate the rules, then we get penalized to their digital system, and everybody around us knows it, because they're going to use peer to peer policing as their enforcement plan. Jody Ledgerwood 11:20 And they're also going to punish those who surround themselves in the company of those who are not doing what they want. So, Will, by extension, you're going to be penalised by what I do, because you just had me on your show, Will Dove 11:34 Of course, yes, that's right. I'm not hiding, they know where I am. Neither are you guys, so we're on the same boat. Jody Ledgerwood 11:41 No Cris Vleck 11:41 Not really, we went right to the belly of the beast. Yeah. Will Dove 11:45 Now I've skipped over number four, simply because it didn't find anything too much there to pick on, so we move on to number five, because this this one was the one that really got me. Member States should facilitate the continued strengthening of the United Nations Development System and boost the capacity of the multilateral system to tackle emerging challenges and address sustainable development goals related gaps and weaknesses in the international architecture that have emerged since 2015. Basically, the doublespeak here is one world government. Cris Vleck 12:15 Yes Jody Ledgerwood 12:16 Yeah. Cris Vleck 12:17 Yeah. Jody Ledgerwood 12:17 They're also saying, take down the people such as us, that have alternatively popped up as the news source or truth for media that people are now turning to, this can't happen. And we know that in 2015, that's when people started paying attention. And all these alternative media sources started to pop up all these podcasts and broadcasts and newspapers. And in the last three years, I think our numbers have probably multiplied exponentially. And this is why they're failing at their, at meeting their goals. They need to wipe us out somehow. Will Dove 13:01 [unintelligible] ...of course, Trudeau is already working on that with his register, all the podcasters know, right now, that only applies to those making 10 million or more a year. So you know, once you once you get to that one, he'll lower it until he's coming after people like you and I. Will Dove 13:13 Right Jody Ledgerwood 13:14 Exactly Cris Vleck 13:15 Exactly. Right. Will Dove 13:16 Yes Cris Vleck 13:16 Yeah, it should be noted, number five is very much tied in with number one, you know, and the big word in number one for me is recommit. And that means a doubling down on what they're already doing to me. And so they're very much tied in together one and five, because this really does mean that they're going to find ways to turn the screws harder and harder and harder to get their job done. And a lot of talk about misinformation, disinformation was on the agenda. And that is directly related to the fact that we've been winning this info war, and they are going backwards on some of their goals. Will Dove 13:47 Yes, and I'm going to play a clip later, folks, that Cris and Jody provided. We're going to be talking just about exactly that, about how they're controlling the media and trying to shut up any of us that are telling the truth. Cris Vleck 13:57 Yeah, just want to make a little quick note to about number four, as we go through Agenda 21. There's a lot of references to other things. So it's very difficult to just read through Agenda 21 and know what they're doing. Because the SDG summit to deliver the Addis Ababa Action Agenda. Now you have to actually go source that out. And you have to find out what it is they're talking about. And they do that several times. They reference so many other documents. So it's very difficult to figure out exactly what they're doing. And I just wanted to highlight that. They've made it intentionally complex in order to figure out what it is they're doing. Will Dove 14:33 Yes, you're absolutely right. And they have, they're hiding information, make it very, very difficult to find things. So that later on of course, they can say, well, we published it all it was all out there. Cris Vleck 14:43 Yes. Will Dove 14:43 Yeah. Good luck. Finding all of the information you need to really understand what they were doing. Jody Ledgerwood 14:50 Exactly. Will Dove 14:51 Alright, let's move on to the next one. Because this is this is the graphic where they're showing all of their development goals. And once again, folks, I've highlighted those where I felt the doublespeak really needed to be pointed out. Quality education means controlling our educational systems so they can program our children. Affordability and clean energy and climate action, well, once again, that gets back to destroying the energy sector, making sure that none of us have gas for our cars, heat for our homes. Industry innovation infrastructure, this one's a little bit more difficult, but you're gonna see later on that they are going after small and businesses, again, small and medium sized enterprises. And of course, the infrastructure just gets back to what they were talking about with earlier with iron control, um, sustainable cities, and communities, responsible consumption and production that, well, that's getting into the 15-minute cities, and we're gonna play a video on that later. And peace, justice and strong institutions, this one jumped out to me because we you know, in number four, we're talking about our public schools. The strong institutions here that that I read into this are our universities where, once again, their programming our youth, with all of these, you know, social justice narratives that are basically based on lies and make no sense whatsoever. Cris Vleck 16:04 It is Jody Ledgerwood 16:05 Well, it also incorporates our justice, our legal system. And we've seen in the last, especially in the last year, how corrupt it actually is. And instead of applying the rule of law to cases, they're looking at the government and saying, well, the government called it and the government knows better than everybody. So we don't need evidence to back up with the government saying, which is completely the opposite of what our justice system used to be. It used to be based on evidence and innocence until proven guilty. And it's gone in a complete reversal. I'm sure António Guterres is extremely happy about this. Will Dove 16:45 And you make a very good point, Jody, not long ago, very, very recently. In fact, I entered did an interesting another interview with Leighton Grey, who was one of the two lawyers who was involved in the landmark case here in Alberta, that ruled all of the COVID mandates illegal. And I've interviewed Leighton several times. And my first interview with him was well over a year and a half ago, and at the time, I asked him if he felt that our courts were corrupt. And then at that point, he said, No, he didn't think they were. Well, he's completely changed his tune on that. Having worked through these systems, now he's saying exactly the same thing you are: that our courts have been captured. Jody Ledgerwood 17:18 Yap. Cris Vleck 17:18 It is. Jody Ledgerwood 17:20 Yeah. Cris Vleck 17:22 Yeah, and just go into your doublespeak. I mean, when you start realizing what those words actually mean, peace just means lack of resistance. It doesn't mean, you know, peaceful existence, justice means an evening of the scale, which, you know, when you take it to social justice, or human rights, in order to even that scale, you have to take rights away from someone else to balance that out for someone. So it's not, justice doesn't necessarily mean that it's a just application of the laws, it means their sense of balancing things out in their favor. And then strong institutions, we have a clip from the, a mine, mining company, saying that people don't trust mines, because mines are bad for the environment. So they need to go into universities now. And reframe the idea of free, of mines for these kids. And so they come out of it thinking that mines are good. And carbon energy is bad. Jody Ledgerwood 18:14 But it was mining minerals versus fossil fuel. Cris Vleck 18:16 Exactly. Jody Ledgerwood 18:17 If you mine minerals, it's okay. But if your mine fossil fuels, not okay, so that's the reframing of mining. Cris Vleck 18:24 Right. So yeah, we've got to break it down to the words because those words mean barely different things to you know the globalist than they do to us. Will Dove 18:32 And I think we're going to move on to the next one, because we could get mired down in analyzing this slide. But the next slide, which once again, is from information you guys provided, this gives us the details of just exactly how they're planning to do all of this. And I've highlighted a number of things. But reading through this, if you really understand what you're reading, it's horrifying. This this is a recipe for making all of us live, the government tells us to live, not drive anywhere, not have any freedoms, not be able to eat a decent diet. It's all here labeled and laid out for us. [unintelligible] to comment on this. Cris Vleck 19:08 Well, exactly right. I mean, you know, there are things for everybody here. And for some of them, you should look at the fact that they want to get rid of your pets, they want to take pets away. You know, there are a lot of pet lovers in the world. And so maybe they should just be focusing on that. Less transport by air means more control over your movement. Shift to public transport means shift away from transporting yourself and less control over where you go and how you get there. All of these are very much in that same vein. Jody Ledgerwood 19:36 Well, fewer purchases and durable items, like what Trudeau just announced, was it yesterday or the day before, with regards to grocery stores, putting a cap on what they're allowed to charge for certain things means that they're not going to be able to carry certain products anymore in their stores because of the cost to get it to the stores and then they still have to weigh in the cost of, you know their utilities and their wages, the cost of goods sold. So if there's not a big enough profit margin on on those products, they're not going to carry them anymore. So we're going to see our grocery stores with even bigger gaps on the shelves, because of the fewer purchases. Will Dove 20:19 That's an incredibly important comment, Jody, because this is a strategy that we're seeing everywhere. They label it as something that sounds good to people, we're gonna put a cap on certain grocery prices. But what they're really doing is driving those things out of business, so that they'll no longer be available at all. Jody Ledgerwood 20:35 Exactly. Cris Vleck 20:36 Yes. While not not focusing on the corporations for less animal products, for example, if you're worried about beef consumption, and you're worried about how many, how much beef everybody's going through, then, then just shut down McDonald's, you don't see them doing that. Right? Will Dove 20:50 Right. Cris Vleck 20:50 I mean, they don't go after the corporations, they're always, it's always us who have to pay the bills. Then on top of that, on a slide that I don't know if you have, but they're saying that people have voted, that they want brands to lead the way for them. So they don't know about climate change. And they don't know about sustainability. So they want major brands to guide them and teach them and show them, according to one of their studies. So there is no impetus on corporations to change, it's always the people that'd be paying the social bill on this one. Will Dove 21:22 Yes. And that, once again, is a very perceptive comment because it differentiates between the people who would watch an interview like this when the people were educating themselves, one understand what's going on. And the masses, who, they don't want to think about anything, they, like you said, they want to rely upon the brands to just package something and so I can buy and not think about it. Jody Ledgerwood 21:40 That's it. They want a 5 to 30 second commercial to tell them what to buy, because it's good for them. Cris Vleck 21:45 Yeah Will Dove 21:45 Right. And good for the environment and good. Yeah. It's just... Jody Ledgerwood 21:49 All those virtue tags that we've been seeing in the last three years. Will Dove 21:53 Yes, exactly. Cris Vleck 21:54 Oh and the biggest irony in that is 98% of the climate change problems that they're identifying are caused by consumerism. Period, that while they push more consumerism. Will Dove 22:06 Right, okay, let's, let's move on. Because I was talking about this one earlier, folks. This is very, very important. The damage that was done by the lockdowns where they destroyed small and medium sized businesses, while the big box stores got just ridiculous. And if you look at the grand total at the top, and this is their their, and they do these really nicely laid out documents, don't they? Jody Ledgerwood 22:31 Oh, yes Will Dove 22:31 Very, very pretty, yes. And this race to zero emissions by 2050. And when you look at the biggest chunk down there, I've circled that small and medium sized enterprises, they're going after people's livelihoods again. Jody Ledgerwood 22:46 Exactly. Yeah, they made no bones about it. One of the sessions we sat through was called greening cash. And they talked about how they're going to go after small businesses. One, if you weren't a green business than they were going to put the squeeze on banks to no longer invest in you or loan money to you. And if you banked with a bank that didn't have the majority of their investments in green, then they were urging you to pull your money out of those banks to squeeze the banks into squeezing the corporations. It was this nasty circle of squeezing everybody into this square when your circle. And so yeah, our small businesses are going to get the squeeze again. And there was a lady there from Apple talking about the newest release of the Apple Watch. And hey, if if Apple can go green with their new watch, then anybody can do it. So you're going to see, especially our butcher shops, you're going to see those start to disappear because they don't consider processing meat, meat being a key word, as a green type of energy. So they're going to be penalized massively with this carbon emission scorecard. And right now businesses are voluntarily submitting what their carbon emissions are. But they're now lobbying the government to put in legislation to make it mandatory. So it's not just your, what you specifically do immediate business as being your carbon emissions that you have to report on. It has to do with everybody, the employees that you bring in, what are their emission scorecards, because that's going to work for or against you. The delivery system, the UPS or FedEx is the trains that the truckers, those companies that you use, they're also going to either affect negatively or positively your emission scores where you put your bank where you'd make your deposit that's going to affect your carbon emission scores. And if your score is too high, you're going to pay a fine, a giant fine and right now New York City, put in Local Law 97. So if you are an owner of a building, you now have to, if your building is 25,000 square feet or more, you now must report your carbon emissions to the government. And you will be penalized $287 per square tonnage, or what have you, of emissions that you're over the allowable emissions for your 25,000 square foot building. So that includes your tenants. What business do they do? What shipping and handling do they use, because all of that is going to affect your carbon emissions as a building owner. So you're going to start booting people out that now are going to cause you fines within the government system. Yes. So that is already being played in New York City. And it's only a matter of time before they put that across everybody. And then they're going to take out that 25,000 square footage minimum. And it'll be if you own a building, you are going to have to submit. And we already know that government in the last probably 10 years, if you own a home, they now want to know what home you own and whether you sold a home or whatnot, and what the square footage etc. is and we know from the last consensus that was put out, they went down to how many bedrooms are in your home, how many bathrooms are in your home, how many kitchens were in your home, they want to know. And all of that information was collected for this very reason, so that they understand what your carbon emissions is. And not only that, all these immigrants that are sitting in our towns that have no home, they can now place them in your home because they know you have five, a five bedroom home and you only have two people living there. So again, it's a way to clamp down on your carbon emissions and be a better citizen. Will Dove 26:47 Wow. Okay, let's let's move on to, because, and I want to discuss some of this after we've watched some of these video clips. So I'm...you've made some good points, we're going to get back to some of that. So we're gonna move on now to some of these video clips. We're gonna start one with a clip that you guys got of David Miller, who was a former mayor of Toronto, and he, basically what he's talking about here, folks, is 15 minutes cities. David Miller (video clip) 27:11 I'm David Miller, Canada. I'm the managing director of the C40 Centre for City Climate Policy and Economy, which is a small and new think tank affiliated with C40 cities, which is the organization that all the mayors of world's largest cities who are working together to help avoid climate breakdown. New York earlier this year, wildfire smoke from Canada 1000s of miles away came in such concentrated, concentration, huge health hazard. Female Speaker (video clip) 27:42 Create a new vocabulary in what can design do, good or bad, in terms of decarbonisation. For example, I think it's super important that we find the new metrics for the cities that could be a currency. So carbon is one, but there's a lot of other currencies that needs to be unfolded. David Miller (video clip) 28:01 It's not just a technical exercise of decarbonizing, it's how do you build a movement of people that have a vision together of a city that's going to be a better place for all of them, because it's environmentally sustainable, because it's got great diversity, because low income neighborhoods are going to get green. And that allows the mayor to produce a plan and private sector developers and others are going to engage on that plan. But I think starting with the idea that we're building better neighborhoods for people to live in, and how you do that, you decarbonize. So you think about the 15 minutes city content concept, which has to be right, because the very nastiest people on the internet are opposed to it. Therefore, it has to be right, and also has to be right because most cities, including in the developing world, are built around the idea that car answers all the problems. And we now know, that's a horribly failed idea. It's very expensive. The idea that people should live a long way from their work and commute. So the idea that we build neighborhoods where all of people's needs can be met, that our green is consistent with climate change, consistent with social justice goals. It was announced in September 2022. There are over 40 cities participating in trying to decarbonize makers in a way that's socially just and inclusive, what there's 22 pilots that C40 is supporting. And there's a whole consortium of actors from the private sector, including our partners and then of course others who are working together on this and to me, that's the way you bring this all together, starts with people, city makes a plan, and that gives people a direction that they can get around [unintelligible] Science says we have to halve greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. The fossil fuel industry is fighting this tooth and nail in every way they can with lobbying with [unintelligible] else. My own message is, we need to do this in cities around the world, not even these C40 cities are enough which are more or less 700 million people. We need to, everywhere think about these ways and to act [unintelligible] involving people building nature and decarbonizing rapidly. Will Dove 30:19 There's a lot to unpack in that one. And he starts, you know, he's talking about cities around the world, though. C40 cities here in Canada, officially only Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal are members of the C40. Cris Vleck 30:31 Yes. Will Dove 30:31 He's talking about, you know, we need to do this in every city. And it's happening. Even in very conservative Alberta. We've got Edmonton and Calgary run by woke mayors that are pushing the 15-Minute City Agenda. And so you can't just look at, say the C40 cities list. Now a lot of these mayors are in on this. Cris Vleck 30:49 Well, some some good news, Jody, Jody is really on this. So I'll let her talk forever on this one. But that's c40.org if you want to go see more information about that. The good news is that one of the directors from Greece came in and they were talking and they they actually held a poll in our meeting, how many people think that we should just regulate people and forget about, you know, we should just force them into doing it? Or should we work with them. And this lady is like, whoa, you have to have democracy. And so she was big on the idea of not forcing people not pushing people. And we talked to her afterwards. And we said, you know, that actually encourages us, because we're seeing a lot of these people want to force this stuff on there. And she... no no no, freedom is really important to her. I'm sure she'll be gone pretty quick. But anyway. And then we talked to David Miller afterwards. And we said, C40 or 15-minute cities are really great, until they want to keep you in there, like Oxford is doing, they're fining you for leaving that zone. Because while that's just the way to get gas consumption down, and then all of a sudden, he had somewhere to go, you know, so he doesn't see it. But there are people working on the inside, who actually don't believe in forcing this this on people. And it's just a good idea. There's a lot of great aspects to it, for sure. It's just when they want to make it your prison that we have a problem with that, right? Will Dove 32:02 Jody, your comments. Jody Ledgerwood 32:04 And the blonde lady who was speaking, she's an architect that works with cities, developing cities and putting them into the 15 Minute city hubs. And she made a comment I don't know if you caught it or not about carbon is one currency that we can use to get people into the metrics or matrix of the 15 Minute city, there are many other currencies we can use. And that's where you start talking about the social credit scheme, and about your banking scheme, your CBDCs, your digital IDs, all that's going to come into play. So she kind of let the cat out of the bag without letting the cat out of the bag about how they're going to control human behavior in order to make this successful, because your behavior is a currency that they can clamp down on to make sure that everything goes according to Agenda 21, and that we meet that 2030 agenda 15 minute cities across the globe, not just here in Canada. Will Dove 33:03 And I thought that David Miller is permits where you really have to listen to them. And several times, he makes reference to decarbonize it. And what he's telling us right there is admitting that's what the 15 Minute cities concept is about, preventing people from moving around. Yes, rather decarbonize. When you stop people from driving, you stop them from heating their homes. And that was on the list. Folks, if you missed it earlier, we showed that detailed list of the plans they have is reducing the heat in your home. And it's all that and once again, they're using strategies there to make that unaffordable. Recently, I was interviewing Peter McIsaac, who lives in Nova Scotia where many homes are heated with heating oil. And he told me that the average person in Nova Scotia now is now looking at something like $1,600 for heating oil every six weeks. Yes, just to heat their homes in the winter. For those of us who live in the west, and areas where we're using natural gas, you're complaining about our natural gas prices going up, you know, four or $500 a month in the winter, but we're talking about people who were paying $1,200 a month. Cris Vleck 34:00 Yes Jody Ledgerwood 34:01 Exactly. Jody Ledgerwood 34:01 People can't afford that. And so of course what's going to happen, they're gonna have to shut off their heat. They're going to be at risk of freezing in their homes. Cris Vleck 34:07 Yeah, we we stayed in Utrecht and a funny little connection there as the mayor of Utrecht came and spoke at that same conference. So she was part of talking about the 15 Minute cities as well. Jody Ledgerwood 34:19 And she's a C40 city, too. Cris Vleck 34:21 Yes. And so when we were in Utrecht when we went to the Netherlands, the lady we were staying with there was frost on her windows. So it was so cold that her windows had frost on the inside. Because she couldn't afford to heat her place. We ended up she ended up turning the heat up. We ended up giving her like over 100 euros to help her with her heating bill because she turned the heat up for a couple of days while we were there. So it's not it's not like a fantasy. This is actually happening in places. Jody Ledgerwood 34:48 Exactly. Yeah. Well, the other thing that David Miller said too was, they know they must be on to something because of people like you and I. He mentioned several times which you, you talked a lot. But he mentioned several times that the conspiracy theorists, the liars, the nasty people, the nastiest people on the internet, so they know they must be on the right track because the nastiest people are shouting about it, and trying to stop them from moving forward. So again, more more confirmation that what we're doing getting the information out is working. And the mayor of Utrecht also said that, that we were in or they were in reverse of meeting their goals, because of the conspiracy theorists out there. So congratulations, Will, you're doing your job. Will Dove 35:43 As are you guys and yeah, it's very important to point that out. Because, yes, he makes that comment, and it reveals the psychology of these people that anybody who disagrees with us is a nutjob conspiracy theorist, hater, misinformation artist... Jody Ledgerwood 36:01 Liar and nasty Will Dove 36:03 ...whatsoever behind what they are doing. I mean, let's, sidestepping the fact that, you know, electric vehicles produce more carbon emissions than gas powered ones do. Jody Ledgerwood 36:14 Yeah Will Dove 36:15 The entire myth of manmade global warming via co2 emissions can be disproven in minutes. It's literally not happening. It's a complete myth. And there, and I left that lady in to that clip, because she talked about yes about the currencies. But she also talked about how they were branding things labeling how they were using words. Jody Ledgerwood 36:15 Yes Will Dove 36:15 It's very, very important for people to realize this. And this is why, folks, I often translate the doublespeak because they package things very, very nicely. They give a great deal of thought to how they're going to market all of this. And you really have to listen to what they're saying. Parse it, pull it apart, see what they really mean. Cris Vleck 36:51 Yep. Well, even on their Race to Zero slide that you that you put up just a little bit ago, there was the five Ps, what was it? Plan? Whatever. Anyway, they use the word persuade twice. And about 80% of the conversations we had when we were there was how to persuade people and move them along, Jody Ledgerwood 37:09 Didn't they, the one lady said, how we can force people, Oh, I'm sorry, no, incentivize. That's the word we're supposed to use now is incentivize people, because we didn't bite the carrot that they dangled in front of us. Now they have to figure out another way to force slash incentivize us moving forward. So instead of working on us little guys, they're going to hit the corporations and the banks, which will eventually trickle down to us. Will Dove 37:36 Right Cris Vleck 37:36 With an IPCC slide that you put up with the 61 behaviors to change, there's a company [unintelligible], and they are where we are going to play one of the clips that the future office, they were talking about how those were actually outcomes. So they've broken down each and every one of those, and they've created a behavior wheel, and how they've gone right down to the core behaviors and how to change behaviors to get to those outcomes. So they're releasing that in about a month. So we'll make sure that you get a copy of that when it comes out. But it's all about persuasion and manipulation and changing the populace. And as the carrots start to fail, and they will, they're talking about sticks, and what sticks do we use. Will Dove 38:17 Yes, and I think that's a perfect segue into this next clip, we're talking about, basically their propaganda machinery. Jody Ledgerwood 38:24 Yeah Will Dove 38:25 ...run that now. Male speaker (video clip) 38:26 One of the things that we've been investing in a lot is deep, deep audience engagement, audience research to understand more about where people are actually getting their information, what they're doing. And the truth is, if you are not watching news, you're not getting climate information. So the question then is like, how are we engaging large swaths of folks that are otherwise under or unengaged around climate action? And so for us, we've spent the last year doing intense work with digital content creators. Female Speaker (video clip) 38:57 We started with the research. So everything in my team is grounded in the science, whether it's the atmospheric science or the behavioral science. And so we established internally an internal service that creators can take advantage of at their discretion, which provides them with fact checking, support, as well as creative consultation. They are, I would say, if I can paint them as a monolith, generally intimidated by the subject matter. Don't want to get it wrong, because there is so much snark out there, including in our own climate community, not helpful, not helpful, which is why everyone has to confess their climate sins as they start talking about this work. Jody Ledgerwood 39:37 What is your climate sin Will? Will Dove 39:41 Confess my sins, oh, my, it's a bit, if I really wanted that comment in there, because what this reveals, is, as we've just been saying, this has nothing to do with science. This is basically a religion. They're a religion for people to believe in. And what's the important thing about religion? Don't question it. Jody Ledgerwood 40:00 That's it, and as she said, you know, these influencers that they have brought on board, they're afraid to get it wrong. So don't worry, we we've got our fact checkers who are going to give you the information. So you don't have to look, you don't have to read, you don't have to research, we're just going to tell you so you don't get it wrong. And that was so strong with what we're experiencing these days with censorship. Will Dove 40:24 That's extremely vital. Cris, just before I let you make your comment there, because what they're doing here is they're moving from censoring and canceling, to actually dictating the programming. Jody Ledgerwood 40:35 Exactly. Cris Vleck 40:36 Yeah. And, and that was that clip for me, throughout the whole thing was one of the biggest gotcha moments, because a whole lot, a lot came to light with how they do that. And there are people who say that this is a conspiracy that they can't possibly manipulate that many people, you can't have everybody on board, well, not everybody is on board. They just want to make money always follow the money. So they go to Netflix. And Netflix says we're greenlighting these sorts of things. Well, how do I do that we'll provide you with counsellors, and they're spreading the message unwittingly. And they just need to control Netflix, or with the slaughter with the farmers, they don't have to control all the meat farmers, they just control the slaughterhouses. Or with the pop music, we did a show on this recently, all of the artists aren't really aware of what's going on all of the pop music that you see now is written by four or five people. And so they just control the producers of the music, right? So they've really got it down to a science and Netflix really proved that for us. And that is they just target key areas. And the rest sort of takes care of itself. And then they add in the social aspect. So like with Apple saying, we need to get our carbon energy down, they go to their suppliers of the components, and they say, unless you're doing this, we can't use you who freak out because they're gonna lose their biggest client. And then they get on board. And that's how the wheel works. And then you know, the banks are financing only green stuff. One of the JP Morgan guys at one and we'll find this clip, I'll send it to you so you can play it. One of the JP Morgan guys said to one of the one of the boards that last clip was asked to chair and he said in all of the things you're talking about, will this not drive up inflation? And the head of Ericsson said, well, that's not really my department passed it off. And somebody else said, yeah, yeah, it probably will. Jody Ledgerwood 42:22 But it's worth the premium. Cris Vleck 42:23 Right. And so he pointed it out. This is going to drive costs, which will go back to the consumers. And they didn't care. Because it's the brands that are doing lead the way on this right? Will Dove 42:32 Well, and they don't care, they're largely wealthy people who aren't Jody Ledgerwood 42:36 Exactly Will Dove 42:37 They'll still be able to afford groceries, they'll still be able to afford their SUV in their giant home. Who cares if everybody else is starving? Jody Ledgerwood 42:44 Exactly. And they actually polled the audience to find out how many people would prefer to buy, say, a green raincoat over a normally manufactured raincoat. raincoat, and everybody put their hands up. And then they said, Well, would you pay a premium for the exact same green raincoat. And only about five people in the audience of probably 200 people put their hand up. So it's clear that even those who are 100%, in support of the SDG and green and oh, my gosh, there's a climate crisis, are not willing to pay the price, which again, will eradicate that inequality, because the rich will pay the price. So they'll stay rich, but the rest of us won't, so we won't have those things. So the rest of us, which is like 99% of the population will all come in line with each other because we won't have because we can't afford that premium, let alone be willing to pay the premium. Cris Vleck 43:42 Right. And so it goes with places like Apple because they can afford to take that loss for a year or two years. And because they they are pushing the the SDGs forward so they can afford to and we know there's a globalist plan to make sure they're buffered anyway, but you know, they can afford to absorb that loss for a while. Whereas the smaller people can't, you know, the smaller companies, they, they now then turn to the government say we need more regulations. And we need you to help us out if you create the regulations and you can create a support system for us to be able to supply somebody like Apple. So now they're screaming to the government to crack down on all of us, because they need to keep up with the you know, the the climate neighbors, right. And it's kind of ridiculous. That's we had this pointed out long time ago with G. Edward Griffin, who in the 60s pointed out this is what's called a pitcher move. You know, they get the people to demand it and then the government acquiesces and regulates it. Will Dove 44:39 Yeah. Alright, let's move on to the last clip that I've got. And I saved this one for last because because I found this one, quite frankly, to be the most frightening of them all, if you really listen to what they're talking about. Male speaker (video clip) 44:56 And so advertising and PR industry agencies are essential to create this disinformation, it all starts with the smart people who work in offices like this. They're very good at what they do. And when they do good work for good, they are very good at it. And when they do work for bad, it's very effective. So we've done research into what agencies are working with fossil fuel companies, and we found 294 of them around the world. This is climate strategy, this is a climate solution to say you won't work with fossil fuel companies is a way of contributing to the how we fix this problem. And we looked at these 11 banks and so what we found also was that it's not just for companies, this applies to individuals, applies to universities, applies to foundations, it really is for many of these organizations, when we would go to universities, their endowments are generating war missions and everything else that they're doing across the university. And so we were really curious how it also applied to everyday individuals. But so next month, we're releasing a report that is going to talk about what does this mean for individuals around their banking, in particular, and what we found with this new updated data, essentially, is that if you have $25,000, in one of those 11, banks, on average, you're going to be generating more emissions than by driving by flying. And based on the average American stats. And we're doing that by focusing on building the data tools and strategies that companies and individuals and organizations need to drive that transformation. Will Dove 46:21 You have to listen to what he's talking about there with the strategy with the banks. Not long ago, I interviewed Brett Oland, who is the CEO of Bow Valley Credit Union here in Alberta. And he was talking about CBDCs. And an essential step for them to make the CBDCs really work is they have to take out the commercial banks, Scotia Bank, TD, Bank of Montreal. And the reason is, folks, for those of you who don't realize this, those commercial banks, they're not part of the central banking system. They're just a storefront business that happens to deal in money. And they're not going to go along with this, because they have had now for almost the last 100 years, the right under fractional reserve banking to create money out of thin air, the fantastic business hard not to be a billionaire if you own a bank. But what the CBDCs would do is they would take that control away by moving all of the control of the money to that central bank digital currency system, which here in Canada would then be tied to the Bank of Canada, controlled directly by the government with no oversight. And if you take out those commercial banks, now you have removed their option. And so they have to do that. And so what we're talking about in this video, basically is talking about the ways the strategy they're going to use to take out those commercial banks, to convince people not to do business with them, to move them, I would suspect into alternative banks that are probably controlled directly by the IMF, by the globalists, and that's the interim step. And then once they've got enough people moved into that, and they they've shut down the commercial banks, because they've gone out of business. Well, now they can shut down those interim banks as well. And now all barriers to their absolute economic control have been removed. Jody Ledgerwood 47:55 Correct. That's exactly what he said as as the presentation went on. Cris Vleck 48:02 Yeah, and that's it, ironically, that was on the 63rd floor of the One World Trade Center. That's not an address, they've actually called it One World Trade Center now. And that's exactly what they're doing this is how to formulate a strategy to pull your money from banks, and make sure that they comply and the banks are complying, let's follow the money, then then move your bank into somewhere that is complying. So they want to, they actually trying to get people to shift their money into something that's going to take their money away quicker? Will Dove 48:31 Yes. Ironically. You've just triggered a question for me, Cris, I have to admit it not occurred to me before. You were in this One World Trade Center, which of course, is the replacement of the World Trade Centers that were destroyed back in 2001. I'm pretty sure all of my viewers are aware that was an inside job. Jody Ledgerwood 48:50 Yes Cris Vleck 48:50 Yes. Cris Vleck 48:50 Do you think they destroyed those buildings so that they could build these new ones around to this agenda? Cris Vleck 48:57 Well, I think I think it's a giant monument. It's it's very interesting. I'll send you some pictures. I think it is I think they took down the two World Trade Centers. And they put up the One World Trade Center. And it's literally One World Trade Center. It's not I thought it was an address. And I think it's a giant monolith to the new agenda. Yeah, that's exactly what I think it is. Jody Ledgerwood 49:18 And even the pictures that Cris took, he showed me afterward. They're phenomenal. When you actually take a picture looking up, it's all a mirrored building. So it reflects back at you. But as you get to the top, it actually looks like a pyramid. But from the from standing on the street, it doesn't look like a pyramid at all. But in the pictures the way they've got the angles, it looks identical to a pyramid at the top. It's a reflection of the sky of the heavens. And it's the most bizarre thing because it does not look like that in real life standing on the ground right in front of it. You know, so bizarre and when you take a picture depending on the angle, well, most angles, you can't even read One World Trade Center, it literally disappears into the mirrors. So it was really hard to try and find an angle where you could actually get the words One World Trade Center. And the security in that building was incredible. We had to bring in our passports, we had to sign in or send my, our information ahead of time. They then vetted us then sent us okay, you can come in. And then when we got there, we had to hand in our passports, they did another security check. Then they took our pictures, then they gave us our passports back and told us what elevator to get into to go to the floor that we wanted, and no other elevator would take us anywhere else. It's very crazy. Will Dove 50:50 Obviously, they didn't check deeply into who you are. Don't they know... Cris Vleck 50:55 They still let us in. Jody Ledgerwood 50:56 I think they did criminal background checks and we don't have a criminal record. So they were like, okay, they're good. Will Dove 51:01 So you got through, okay. Now, how many days were you there? Jody Ledgerwood 51:05 7? 8? Cris Vleck 51:06 Yeah, 7 or eight, but we only went to meetings for about three days. Jody Ledgerwood 51:10 Yeah. Yeah, we arrived on a Thursday. We came home on Thursday. But the summit itself began on the Sunday. Cris Vleck 51:21 Yeah Jody Ledgerwood 51:21 So we had Thursday, Friday, Saturday, where we just caught our bearings, figured out where we needed to go and where things were and how to work the subway system. And then this Sunday, we had the invitation to actually go to the UN open. And when we got there, they sent us from one UN building registration to another UN regis- visitors registration information place, then back to another. And then they we realized the address we had on the tickets didn't match these addresses. It said West versus East exact same address, but west versus east. So then we went all the way up to West and there was nothing there. But this apartment building that looked very derelict. So then we went back down. And this really wonderful lady that was working security in the one UN visitors registration office. She spent a lot of time with us and really tried to help us get badges so that we can get in and get down the streets. And then it turned out that the events that we were in West Side event, not actually in the UN anyway, so we didn't need badges. We just needed to be on the guest list and have our tickets. Will Dove 52:32 But you said you said badges to get down the streets. This isn't just in one building. They they cordoned off an entire section of New York City for this. Cris Vleck 52:41 Oh, blocked. Will Dove 52:41 And you can't go in unless you have your badges? Cris Vleck 52:44 Yeah. Yeah, though. We- The UN is on Number One First Avenue, basically. And they started blocking. They started security at Third Avenue. And you couldn't get past Second Avenue without security. Yeah. Jody Ledgerwood 52:59 But you needed your badge, your invitation with it and your passport. So you needed three types of identity in order to get in. And one gentleman he was the ambassador of some country, I can't remember which country and I happened to overhear what was going on the three other people that were with him, they had all all three of their identity. But he was missing one. Anyway, they would not let him down the street. They're like, I'm sorry, you need to have that or you can't get in. He's like, but I'm the ambassador, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, sorry, go get your Go get your badge. So even though he had all these other people, vouching for him, plus he had everything out. And he was the ambassador of one of the countries. Yeah, they wouldn't let him in. Will Dove 53:44 That, too, is significant, because our governments have been taking police security and basically turning them to jackbooted enforcers. Cris Vleck 53:53 Yes Jody Ledgerwood 53:54 Yes Will Dove 53:54 Don't don't think here's the requirements. And if they don't meet the requirements, they're not allowed there. Jody Ledgerwood 53:59 Yep. Cris Vleck 54:01 Yeah. And the other thing is behind the scenes, you pull the curtain back a little bit. This was a whole summit on how to reduce the carbon footprint. And people have pointed out rightfully that, though, the world leaders they go around the world, in their private planes or private jets, they're using carbon footprint. But if you pull back the curtain and you go to New York, what you start to see is there's also motorcades with at least five SUVs in them, and police escorts, there's police on every corner, there was security, Secret Service, every other like in the corners and in the middle of every block, the amount of security that was there that must have been flown in. There's all the news that was flown in. There's all the sub leaders that were flown in. There were all the SMEs and NGOs and Jody Ledgerwood 54:48 CEO Cris Vleck 54:48 and those guys that got flown in there were, most people couldn't even afford to stay in New York because it was fifteen, 500 bucks to 1500 bucks a night. They just jacked up the prices so other people like us had to go to New Jersey to stay. So would that was the extra transport there all the extra food they brought in. And we actually asked one of the marketing companies that figure out carbon footprint and how to market about that. We said, well, what do you think the carbon footprint is on the summit that's here to reduce the carbon footprint? And she goes, Yeah, I know. But you know, Biden needs to be protected. And she laughed and walked away. Jody Ledgerwood 55:22 It was crazy. And not only that, if you've been to New York City, there's no parking anywhere. So these Suburbans were driving around the blocks endlessly and tirelessly the entire time because they couldn't park anywhere. And if their, their VIP happened to come out, they needed to be available to pick them up. And they kept this other police van running all day long, blocking the street and letting them motorcade in if they had the proper ID, then he would reverse open up the street. So the motorcade could go in, and then he pulled back across. So that car was running 24/7 the entire time. So they have all these vehicles constantly circling. But we're the problem. All of us taking the subway where the problem. Cris Vleck 56:09 Yeah, exactly right. Will Dove 56:11 Simply struck me when watching the David Miller video that you provided, from what I can see of the room. And certainly from the acoustics it appears it was quite a small room. How well attended was this event. Cris Vleck 56:21 I was, there was about 100 people at each one of those. And they had to be shuffled out new ones shuffled in. That was at the Dutch consulate. So they had a whole blank, like, empty floor. Jody Ledgerwood 56:33 It was a whole floor Cris Vleck 56:34 Yeah. So that... Jody Ledgerwood 56:35 You were just seeing like the corner part of that floor, you walk around the corner, and it's all wide open. And they had food and people all there and media there and screens and interview places and what have you. So but each building, for each session, I guess, anywhere from 100 to probably 300 people each session would fit. And even some of the universities there were renting out their rooms for this summit. So we literally were jumping on buses and transport and running to get to the next meeting. So they literally were all over the city. Will Dove 57:14 Now obviously there would have been a lot of foreign dignitaries there people from foreign governments, CEOs of major corporations, but I'm curious how large was the representation of mainstream media? Jody Ledgerwood 57:27 Not very large. Cris Vleck 57:29 Well, not that we saw because they were all allowed with their media credits down, down past the security. When we got down to the UN the day before, they were still letting people through. Oh, as a matter of fact, we only got in because we got to the checkpoint. We said actually, we have to go get our badges and they let us in. So we actually walked around behind the secure lines for quite a while with the influx of Secret Service kind of swarming around us was was incredible. And we can see a lot of news down near the UN. So I would say there would be healthy representation of those news that was allowed to go down. Jody Ledgerwood 58:07 Exactly. They also had emergency veterinary mobile clinics down there for the security dogs that they had all over the place as well, which I found fascinating. Will Dove 58:18 Now, Cris, you said the media that was allowed to go certain places, and you went in with your cell phones, and you recorded a lot of what you heard, but was there mainstream media set up to record a lot of these presentations. Cris Vleck 58:33 Not where we were no, no, not where we were they offered web services. So the [unintelligible] one you can actually find online. But the Dutch consulate never did put any of their videos up online. So some of these things were completely untelevised. And that's where David Miller was. That's where the ambassadors were. That's where the politicians from around the globe were. And so they weren't big enough to rate at the UN meeting. But here they were, these were the people implementing all the plans that everyone else is talking about. And then the CEOs of corporations use, they were at future era. So these are a lot of the things that flew under the radar. And fortunately, especially the one at the World Trade Center. We fortunately are not the only footage coming out of those places. And those those talks would have gone completely unnoticed if we hadn't been there. Jody Ledgerwood 59:20 Yeah. And all the doctors were at the savannah building, which we we got into as well. That was a really interesting. Cris Vleck 59:27 That was very interesting. And the one big thing takeaway for me is there was one guy who is fully on board, you can tell he's completely on board. I won't get into all the details in Jody Ledgerwood 59:37 one of the countries Cris Vleck 59:38 something called Unite. Yeah. Which Jody Ledgerwood 59:41 No, he was the president of one of the countries during the pandemic. And he was talking about how crazy it was to lead a country during the pandemic. He's no longer the president. He's been one of the ones that have been switched out since. Cris Vleck 59:53 But he was talking about the treaty, that UN treaty and the World Health Organization treaty that we all thought it sort of died. He's talking about having to pressure your politicians. So they can be on board with it in May of 2024. So that's just coming right back. So they're not taking that off the table at all. They're just regrouping and putting more pressure on to get it brought in in May of 2024. Will Dove 1:00:17 Yes. And what I was getting out with my questions about mainstream media, and coverage, is it once again, it appears that they are working very hard to control what information is available to the public. And guess what discussions happen. Essentially, behind closed doors to a small group of interested parties. And if people like you hadn't been there and record it, we'd never heard any of that. Jody Ledgerwood 1:00:39 No, exactly. And in the one where you had the PR, you sort of see that video between shoulders, Cris had actually asked them because it was at the One World Trade Center, if we were allowed to record and they said, No. And I said, well, they told you no, they didn't tell me no. So I had to record like, kind of secretly. And that's why the recording's not as great as some of the other recordings that we had. But when we looked around, there was nobody else recording either. So we were literally in I think Cris Vleck 1:01:13 Right. There was no secret video taken. We were there open and weird. Nobody has asked us to stop. So it's not like we can't show any of this stuff. Because we were there. And it was it's on public record as far as we're concerned. But at the Dutch consulate, yeah, nobody was filming, the One World Trade Center, nobody was filming. And so we did get the only the only footage out of those places, for sure. And again, these are the people who are actually day to day making this work. So what really got revealed was how the machine is going to work and how they're going to bring it in with minimal effort. And a lot of the did, what is it judicial notice is the thing that I've learned lately, and that's what these people are doing, they're talking about all these great things are bragging about all their great plans, but nobody's actually questioning the science anymore, they just assume the science is settled. And now they're gonna go about how to how to make this, you bring this all this climate change about this climate change solutions about. Will Dove 1:02:09 And as we alluded to, earlier on this interview of the information we've seen today, just the tip of the iceberg, you guys collected a great deal of it, you still have to go through a lot of it. And I'm hoping I can have you back. Once you have, we can once again go into greater depth. But for now, I'd like your final thoughts on your observations. While you were there. Things that we've discussed today. Your final thoughts for our viewers. Jody Ledgerwood 1:02:32 Final thoughts. The UN Agenda 21 is not dead. It is the the actual goal. 2030 2050 are just the markers. They are going to come at us hard. We did not take the carrots that they offered the last three years. So congratulations to everybody what you've done your standing up your voice, your information, your ability to question and discernment is working. We are ahead of the game. We are beating them at their own game, because we're willing to question and we're not afraid to question and not only being afraid to question, we're not afraid to share the information that we learn from those questions. So keep diving, keep researching. Keep asking why. And keep the pressure on in your local regions, at your school boards at your local municipal town hall meetings, keep the pressure on keep the pressure on with your MPs and your MPPs it's the only way we are going to stay ahead of the call, stay ahead of the curve and possibly smash that curve. Will Dove 1:03:46 Cris? Cris Vleck 1:03:46 Yeah, I mean, going into it, I almost shared the belief that the globalist that it's a giant machine. They've been doing it for decades and decades and decades. They know what they're doing. And they're way ahead of us. But coming out of that summit it I realized just how easy it is to pull the narrative apart. They don't have control everywhere. They don't have eyes on everything. They've just gotten very good at selecting a few places that are going to be thought leaders, and then everyone else falls in line. And if we kind of adopt the same strategy, this whole narrative falls apart. And it's actually not as hard as we thought it would be. And so we're we're pretty clear on their strategies now coming out of this summit. And it's really not that complicated. And the encouraging part for me is that they're there because [unintelligible]. So you know, other than the desperate acts of some desperate people, we just stay the course and push the inertia. You know, coming back with the information we got out of that summit. You know, there are very simple things we can do to pull this whole thing apart. It's much more of a house of cards than people think it is. Will Dove 1:04:56 Yes. And I know both of you quite well and I joked with you prior to the interview I thank you very much for going to this as investigative journalist because you're two of the only people I know who would have the stomach to listen to the constant stream of BS and be able to continue to do what you did. Thank you so much for taking the time the expenditure to do this and to bring us this information. Cris Vleck 1:05:19 Well, thanks for having us on, Will, if we can get this word out, we can win this thing within a year. So Jody Ledgerwood 1:05:26 ever the optimist