(0:00 - 0:28) The world that is presented to us is a carefully constructed fantasy. Almost everything we are told, almost everything that the majority of people believe, serves only the purpose of controlling those same people. The rich and the powerful construct this fantasy so that the people they govern will comply of their own volition, because they don't have sufficient jackboots to point guns at all of our heads and force our compliance. (0:29 - 2:02) But the truth can be found, if you ask the right people, or look in the right places. For example, you may believe, as I did, that the Internet was first created by a group of scientists at MIT. It wasn't. MIT scientists did come up with the idea, but the Internet's inception happened in 1969, when the U.S. military created ARPANET. It was made free and public in 1995 by Bill Gates. But not for your benefit. You also likely believe that cryptocurrencies, or at least most of them, can't be monitored by governments. As you will discover in this interview, that is also not true. Financial experts Adrian Spitters and Peter Merrick, best-selling authors of It Starts With Gold, recently published a paper which shows how the Internet, the financial sector, and cryptocurrencies are all part of the globalist plan to monitor and control us all. Furthermore, there's strong evidence that CBDCs themselves may be a psy-op to push you into cryptocurrencies, believing that they can't control those. But they can, and the structure to do so is already in place. Adrian, Peter, welcome back to the show. (2:03 - 3:46) Thank you, Elliot. Now, you contacted me, Adrian and Peter, because, as you guys do, you've done a lot of research into finance and how things are working, as you're working very hard to help people protect themselves against what's coming. And you have found some very interesting and disturbing information about cryptocurrency. So I'm going to ask you, just to talk about that, give us a general outline. Well, well, I wish we are wrong. We've never wanted to be more wrong. And if our assumptions that we're building on, which we have documented in a 49-page paper, that if anyone looks at the QR code, they can actually download it. It's on both Adrian and mine. We started looking at crypto in our last book, It Starts With Gold. And we found some disturbing questions that couldn't be answered regarding it. And everything about crypto and the internet and everything that happens online, we can directly tie back to either the US military or the CIA or to the NSA. And it all goes back towards that. And I just want to share something for your audience, because they might say crypto is the great off-ramp. Nothing is allowed to exist in society unless it is allowed. Now, so far, anywhere from $3 trillion to $5 trillion have gone into cryptos. (3:46 - 4:54) And everything about crypto is built on a US technical infrastructure. And that's what we're going to talk about with you and share with you. And we believe that it's a huge trap, because at the same time, while over a billion people have dabbled in crypto and it's become really popular amongst people who know that there's something wrong with the US dollar, the central banks and the governments of this world have been suppressing gold as they purchase record amounts. And we wrote a paper that we're talking about on a program tonight, which is called The Last Asset Standing, where we're laying out the fact that they're planning to do a reset on the currency, because we've talked about fiat currency before, and they're going to link it to gold, not crypto. Okay. Adrian, do you have anything to add to that? He pretty well covered it, so we'll move on. (4:55 - 6:23) Okay. So now, just before the interview, gentlemen, we were talking about this, and you've uncovered a timeline that raises some very serious concerns about cryptocurrency. So let's walk through that timeline, please. Well, can we just go and give a prism to look at this first? Because there's two prisms that we're using as we look through this. One is a Hegelian dialectic. And for those who are not familiar with Hegel, he was a 17th century philosopher, and he came out with something to look at how things are positioned and how people are just hoodwinked. And it happens to be a three-step process that's called problem, reaction, solution. So someone who wants to manipulate society or manipulate you, they have a solution, a certain act they want you to take, a certain path they need you to go. So what they do is they think of a problem and they get you reacting. And then people start yelling for a solution. They react to it. And the pre-packaged solution is presented. It just drops in. And that is how I want your viewers to actually look at what we're going to share through that problem, reaction, solution, and constantly look through that prism, because I think that's going to allow them to understand how we came to our understanding. And it's not that we think we're right. (6:23 - 9:05) We're hoping to be proven wrong. And the other prism we'd like your listeners to look at is something called operation trust. Adrian, can you share what that is? It's some background to the audience. Yeah. This is something that I've been referring to in a number of my articles for the past year. And I believe we did touch upon it in the book. It starts with gold. And that is the crowd that is currently running Davos are the ancestors, I guess you want to call them, or sorry, the descendants, descendants is the right word, of the people who were responsible for operation trust. During the Bolshevik revolution, there was the Soviet Union counterintelligence operations that was run by the Cheka. And what they did with operation trust was their version of creating something called their version of the freedom movement, where they were identifying anybody that was resisting the takeover. And they would infiltrate the groups. And then eventually they slaughtered. So operation trust really was infiltrating the opposition and getting them comfortable with what they're doing and then jailing them and or executing them. I'd like to add, well, regarding operation trust, it was Lenin who created it. And it ended up being taken over what became the KGB. And what it was, it's by those of you who read in 1984, there was Goldstein, he ran the resistance and was actually big brother, who had actually created it. And this is something that we're looking at as crypto and a lot of things that have happened in society that we've all experienced, that this is created to actually find those people who have a problem and to direct them in a certain way. So the solution that the power is to be, and the power is to be, we've identified going to the Bank of International Settlements and going to the central bankers, because in past conversations that we've had with you, Will, and they've been really good ones, we pointed out that the system is about to fall apart. And one of the premises that we've looked at is if you've got unruly animals, you want to actually go in the herd and you want to get them under control before it all falls apart. And you need to distract them before you're going to do a major, major change and get them under control. So, Will, we're ready to go into the timeline whenever you're ready. (9:05 - 9:47) Absolutely. Go ahead, Adrian. I just want to add that basically we are experiencing today operation trust through controlled opposition. There are many different groups, a lot of disagreeing groups within our movement now. And we're at a point where it's very hard to trust who's really legit and who is controlled by the government and giving the appearance that they're out there standing up for us. So we all have to be very, very skeptical about who you align yourself with and do a lot of research and come to a conclusion that the only way to know is question everything and trust nothing. (9:48 - 9:51) Right. Absolutely. All right, gentlemen, the timeline. (9:52 - 13:57) Well, starting in 1969, there was a creation of ARPANET. I'm not going to go and share what it stands for, but this is the precursor to the internet that was introduced by the U.S. military to if communications went down in the U.S., you would have decentralized communications that if one node went down, you would have other ones being able to get the information. Now, this was perfected up until 1995 when it was opened up to the rest of us and that many of us who aren't so young will remember when Microsoft introduced Explorer on its Windows 95. It was a big launch. I remember being in Toronto. They had a big Windows 95 up the CN Tower. It was like this was a big announcement. And one of the questions that Adrian and I asked if this was a military communications, why would it be opened up? And it had been perfected. It had started to be opened up in 95 only for research departments, military research departments in select universities, and they opened it up to everybody in 95. Now, you have to remember, and this is arguments I heard about the internet, especially when they started censoring us, because all of us, you well included, have been put in the bad boys corner, right? Because we say truths that are not popular. If it wasn't free, and I mean by free, of course, it costs money for internet and dial-up. We all remember AOL and our ear is doing, you know, hearing that noise as it connected. Not for the young people. They don't remember those days. If it wasn't free, all of us would say, screw this. I'm not using this. Meaning, if I couldn't just talk and share my opinions and do things, it's sort of like you get people engaged in this and then you dial back. And we have to look at that because problem, reaction, solution, right? We're going to offer something that's going to be free and it's going to be freeing to humanity. Reaction, everybody jumps onto it and their solution is now we got you all in the pen. We're going to close the gate and we're going to slaughter you. And that's what many of us discovered starting in October of 2020. They kicked everyone off the YouTube who had a voice that was not pairing the official narrative, right? But YouTube said we're going to be free speech. That's what they told everyone and they stopped. Same with LinkedIn, same with Facebook. Everybody, they said that these were going to be free platforms and they changed this. They pulled it out and they were able to get people, instead of building their own networks, he used these other networks to be silenced. And this is something that many pundits who've looked at the internet said, well, this was always what was planned. And we listened to Snowden, who is a truth teller who didn't break the law, meaning that you are allowed to be a whistler blower. That was not supposed to be shared with us. Everything that was happening on the internet was being monitored. And what makes people think that if you're using someone's toll road, they don't have cameras watching you, even though you got a car called Bitcoin or Ethereum or something like that. So that's the first part of a very important part. The basis, the foundation that all this crypto is being used on is a government platform. (13:57 - 14:25) Right. Before we move on with the timeline, there's a question I know is going through the viewer's mind, because my understanding, and I'm sure for many of the viewers, is you've told us the basis of the internet was ARPANET that was started in 1969 by the US military. But what all of us have been told is that the internet was actually started at a university, I think it was MIT. I'm not sure about that one. And that they were the first ones to do this. So that information then is incorrect, that this was actually a US military operation. (14:26 - 14:35) Yes, it was ARPANET. Okay. Now then the second thing that comes to my mind is 1995, we get Windows Explorer coming out. (14:35 - 15:00) Well, who owns Microsoft? Mr. Bill Gates. Yes. And we can go down rabbit holes with this man. It's best that we don't. No, I don't think we need to, but I wanted to make that point to the viewers to add credence to what you're saying and what you're going to say. Because viewers, you all know what Bill Gates is like, you know what this man does. (15:01 - 15:46) And so it makes perfect sense that he would be the first one to put out a public internet. Let me just make a little connection we made in It Starts With Gold, because the financial industry is deeply tied into all of this. And so is the pharmaceutical industry. One of the directors or one of the founders of the Federal Reserve back in 1913 was a director, I can't remember the fellow's name, you got to better remember. It was Wahlberg, and he's the one who really pushed for the Federal Reserve. And he was a director for- IG Farben. (15:46 - 16:04) IG Farben, the company that created the gas that's used in the chambers. And then through a number of mergers and acquisitions through history, one of the companies that came out of that company is Pfizer. And so many others. (16:04 - 16:18) The Federal Reserve has a direct connection to the pharmaceuticals today. And who are the most powerful organizations today are the financial services industry and the pharmaceutical industry. And Bill Gates is tied to a pharmaceutical side. (16:19 - 17:29) Well, one of the things that we should go back to the internet, going back to that. So in 1995, the internet is introduced to the world and it's a wonderful thing. And it sort of stalled out because we all were told that the world was going to blow up with, what was it, 2000 when the zeros went, right? So the developments. So what happened was in 1996, and this is key. Y2K. Y2K, yes. But in 1996, MIT and the NSA, they released a paper. And the paper is an art paper. We have it cited and we also have an art link. So if anybody looks, for example, on either Adrian or my screen, they can have direct access to a free download of It Starts With Gold. And they can also get this 49-page paper. And this paper is called How to Create a Mint. (17:29 - 19:13) And it was created by MIT and the NSA. And one of the things which is really interesting about this paper, that it describes something that is very similar. We discussed this in our paper and our upcoming book, The Last Asset Standing, that is very similar to the same paper that happened to drop in 2008. But I don't want to jump ahead to that timeline. But it was the 2008 paper had to do with Bitcoin. But the next thing that we should look at is in 2001, the NSA changed the encryption for the Internet that they had only released five years earlier. And they introduced SHA-256. Can you just share what that is, Adrian? The description of SHA-256 is part of a family of cryptographic hash functions. It was published through the United States National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST, and was promoted as an improvement over earlier hash standards. SHA-256 was rapidly adopted across digital authentication systems, certificate validation protocols, and secure data integrity applications. So it's just become the standard that all crypto or what's that word I'm looking for, that encryption is based on. Okay. (19:13 - 19:34) And it's very interesting. So two of the things, Will, that we have to take into consideration is the Internet is based on a military infrastructure that was perfected over a 26-year period before they introduced it. And you know when you perfect something, you got to go out to market, right? And they quickly discovered that they had to do an update. (19:34 - 20:27) So the NSA just comes out with the encryption that everything, your phone conversations, like the video that we're having right now, everything is based on SHA-256. The fox has been feeding the chickens. That's literally what it is. Because right now, this is just open information. All people have to do, and this is why we cited everything in the paper. And in our previous book, it starts with gold, and our upcoming book coming in January, the last asset standing. We want to be proven wrong. We want people to do their own investigations. If they can prove us wrong, yes. Because each of us, all three of us have children. Will, do you have grandchildren yet? I don't. My good young friend over there has grandchildren. (20:28 - 21:51) And in essence, we've lived our lives. My productivity is pretty well over right now. I can share my wisdom, but in essence, I'm not going to be adding to the gene pool anymore. I hope not. I can't afford it. But it's very important that people understand that they have to do their own research because none of us get it. Whatever this place is that we call life, whatever, none of us get out of it. So the question is, how did we live? And that's something we address in our next book. But those are two key things that I want to impress upon the audience. Do not take anything we say as gospel. We're not Chris Cuomo. We're not going out and saying, don't read WikiLeaks. You have to come to CNN because we happen to be the gurus of information. We want people to be educated and we want them just to ask the question. The government has a secret platform that they can, you know, give secret messages to different bases and to launch new Twitter codes and, you know, submarines and everything. Why would they introduce it to us? Do they really, you know, unless there was some other motive. I'm just asking. I don't know. (21:52 - 23:28) And then it gets introduced and then a paper shows up saying, hey, you know, it would be great if this thing got full adoption, the Internet. We can introduce a mint which completely tokenizes money because right now they're talking about tokenizing trees, your DNA, everything that's in the real world. But here's something that we'll introduce. And they're describing it. And then there's an update for all encryption, meaning everything that we use. And I would like to ask a question. You know, there's several questions that I ask myself, like, IBM, did they really make the mistake to go and give the keys over to Bill Gates to become Microsoft? Like, are the people who really control things that they leave it, you know, they wanted him to take over because if you're in the world, who cares about IBM and who cares about Microsoft? Right. Does it really matter? And they introduce this and they have a paper and it's just, boom, 2008. We have a financial crisis. People are getting really upset. They're getting really upset that the banks are being bailed out and record amounts of money be given to these criminals who stole all the money. Right. And boom, there happens to be this magic paper that comes out by the person who created Bitcoin. What's his name again? Adrian, I always screw up. It sounds like a motto, but we we missed one step on the on the timeline, which was the Patriot Act. (23:30 - 25:21) Oh, yes. Very important, Adrian. Sorry. What happened? Can you say the year? The year was 2001. The Patriot Act was introduced and we thought it was introduced for for for terrorism. Right. It was really a financial web, the financial services industry. I was in the business when it happened. We had to implement stuff like AML, the anti money laundering, the know your client rules, all of this, all the paperwork that we as financial advisors, we are the gatekeeper when it comes to laundered money. We have to spy on behalf of the of the authorities, the police, and determine whether you are a criminal. And then we anonymously tell the government that we think that this money is suspicious. And if we don't report that and it turns out that that money was dirty, we would have I think it's a million dollar fine for not reporting suspicious activities. So the first line of defense in identifying laundered money or anything that's nefarious is on the hands of the advisor. So if you ever question your advisor why they ask all these questions, they could put a deal for not doing this. Right. So gentlemen, there's conclusions I draw from everything you've told us so far, and they may not be correct conclusions, but it's certainly what's going through my mind. First, we have the internet being created by the American military. And we know some of the other things that they've gotten up to. And then in 1995, it's handed to Bill Gates to give for free to the public. Now the military, of course, wants very much and the US secret services such as the NSA, to be able to monitor everything we're doing. Well, what a wonderful way to do it to have everybody posting things online. (25:22 - 25:45) Then we've got the NSA coming along and creating this new encryption. Now, I'm not a computer expert. What I do know about encryption is that from what we're told of it, even the people who created it can't decrypt it midstream, but maybe they can. So maybe that's why they did that. Unless they have a backdoor. Unless they have a backdoor, which they may very well built into it. (25:45 - 26:20) And then we've got 9-11. Can I ask a question, Will? Let me finish my conclusion and let's continue from there. Then we've got 9-11, which we know was an inside job to, again, problem reaction solution, Peter, and to create a system where people are looking for a solution. And that solution involves the financial services industry being ordered to report on everyone's use of money. Financial surveillance, basically. That's what 9-11 was all about. (26:21 - 27:08) So then, now that we've got a reporting system and a monitoring system, now we bring along cryptocurrency and we're told through blockchain and encryption and all of that, that can't be mobile. Actually, Bitcoin can. It's even publicly stated that Bitcoin is registered so that if you own Bitcoin, the government knows you own it. Some of the others say that they don't have that kind of registration. So what we're seeing here is a collusion of these government agencies to create an information sharing system and a monetary system, which they can completely monitor. And now we're getting to the point where they want to go to the next step, create CBDCs where they can not just monitor, but control. (27:09 - 28:17) I just want to let you know regarding all cryptocurrencies, all Bitcoin, in Canada and I believe in most in the States now too, have to go through exchanges that are now registered with the securities commissions. So they must now report KYC rules. And so even though maybe the cryptocurrency might be private once it's in the wallet or on the ledger, the on-ramps, they know when it goes in, they know what you have, how much you have, how much was put in there so that they know the value. And if you haven't sold it, they still know that you had it because you went through the on-ramp. And then to get access to it, you got to go through the off-ramp, which brings it public. So the government knows right away that you have now taken money out. So there is no hiding. While you have it in the inside, it's hidden. But then you got to either on-ramp or off-ramp and that's all monitored now by the regulator, the securities commission. You have to report, you have to do a KYC, AML, all that stuff has to be done now through the exchanges. And I think we can go back. Go ahead, Peter. (28:18 - 29:26) I just want to add something about the government because we talked about the encryption and everything. Statistically, the government can't be this incompetent. They go to the wars in the Middle East and they spend trillions of dollars. They can't be consistently incompetent unless they're trying to prove something. Because statistically, I remember when I was in university and I had a stats first-year psychology course and the professor said, if you get zero on this multiple choice, I'll give you a hundred because you would really have to want to get it wrong to get it. So you have a hundred percent because statistically impossible. So to believe that the government was so incompetent that they would introduce the internet and the SHA-256 and they didn't have a backdoor, we know that we're told that the government's there to protect us, to find spies and to find terrorists and all that stuff. They would be completely incompetent if they didn't build a backdoor. Let's back this up. (29:26 - 32:05) That's their role, especially if these intelligence organizations in the US government are the ones who are actually trading the code and introducing it to the public. They would be incompetent. And think about it, the whole world adopted it. And when it came out that, let's say, the US was spying on the Chancellor Merkel of Germany, it's because Germany and everybody else who went onto the internet adopted a US system that was created by intelligence. But just sharing with you about problem, reaction, solution, the timeline that after the KYC was put in place with know your client rule and to become like needing human surveillance added to it because we didn't have AI out there. So humans were the best they had. The financial services advisor of the industry are the brown shirts of the Nazi regime. Okay, I don't want to go that far. I'm not associated with this man. But in 2008, well, this is important. In 2008, we all know what happened. In 2001, what happened is corporations started going bankrupt. In 2008, banks started going bankrupt. And what happened were there were bail-ins and people were really upset because the rich were getting richer. But they weren't rich. They weren't people who were contributing to society. It was crony capitalism. For those of you who listen, crony capitalism is the government decides who wins. It's not capitalism. It's fascism. It's like they basically buy behind private corporations and say, well, we can't tell them what to do. And they end up doing all the stuff that the fascist regime wants us to do. And they really say, well, we're not doing it because they're a private corporation and they have the right to do this. But they're getting all their funding from the US government. And people want to buy in to think it's capitalism. It's not. You have a good product, you win. It doesn't work that way. So in 2008, we all get upset because instead of the average person getting bailed out, being helped out, what do we get out of it? We end up getting so much money. Trillions of dollars are being traded and given to banks and citizens. (32:05 - 35:19) And maybe not citizens, because I've been watching these protests recently, these pro-Hamas protests. And I see they have new shoes and new tents and everything. Can I just say it and then we can go back? Because we have Occupy Wall Street that doesn't have a leadership, but it's pretty interesting what came out of them. Sorry. I can't speak to Occupy Wall Street, but a fact I'm not sure you gentlemen know is that these demonstrations that we're seeing in the US right now, they're running ads on places like Craigslist offering people up to $5,000 to $8,000 to show up and protest and to be as disruptive as possible doing it. And we have images of those ads. This is not conspiracy theory, folks. We have proof of this. So now, gentlemen, I want to throw a couple more things into the mix, because as you've been talking, some other things have occurred to me. And I need you to confirm or correct me on something. Can I just interject one thing that during Occupy Wall Street, because I'm in the industry, I was paying attention and that was happening, that they were being recruited and paid. The signs were too perfect. It had all the markers of the current protests. Right, Peter. They're creating this disruption. But there's a key fact I think we need here. Correct me if I'm wrong. The US went off the gold standard in 1975? 1971. 1971. The next in short. Okay. So we have the NSA creating the internet in 1969. 1971, they go off the gold standard. We fast forward to the last 20, 25 years, and now they're pushing towards digital currencies. Why would they go off the gold standard? Well, one reason would be to push everyone onto digital currencies. Once all money becomes something that's transacted on a computer, that makes things easy to monitor, easy to control. And now we talked about the banks collapsing and the government bailing them out. But we know that if they succeed in bringing in CBDCs, one of the things they want to do is to get rid of the commercial banks, because that's just a middleman. They don't want those in there. So what if these collapses of banks that we've seen, as much as it made people angry and the bailout from the government was an intentional test of collapsing the financial system? Yes. Everything that they do, they do a test. We've seen that how they rolled out COVID, and there were different things happening in different countries. All of them were tests to see how the population would react to it, and then they learn from it, and then they implement. So that is a test. I just did an article, I can't recall the article, on the fact that there's a fellow that's very, very prominent on the internet that we follow that does some deep dives and has built a case for that. First, all the local banks are going to go under, and there's going to be one bank in the States that's most likely JP Morgan. (35:20 - 36:19) This fellow that did the analysis in the recent interview I saw to say that most likely RBC would be the surviving bank. And these are the banks that are members of the World Economic Forum, and they're the preferred members. So if you look at your bank, and if you're not a preferred member, you are one of the banks that are probably going to be sacrificed just like Lehman Brothers along the way to having a single bank in each country. That's the first step. Then the banks are going to be rolled over into the central banks of every country. So now if you want to get a loan, you're going to have to go to the Bank of Canada. In the States, you're going to have to go to the Federal Reserve. At the final stage, it's all going to be controlled by the IMF. The IMF is going to issue loans and control all flows of money throughout the world. That is the end goal. Well, and then for the people, the end goal is CBDCs, universal basic incomes. Everything is monitored, and if you don't comply, they shut off your money. (36:20 - 40:08) Well, I want to share with you because it doesn't have to be central bank digital currency, and that's one of the things that we are exploring in our book. I think we should just continue with the timeline because one of the things that I'm coming to the conclusion is that these cryptos like Bitcoin, that is the central bank digital currency. They've already done it. It's happened, and they're having everyone look left and no American because they would say, I'm not doing that. I need my freedom. Wouldn't it make more sense just like the internet to get people to volunteer for it, and this is what they're doing. It's the smartest way. They give you something terrible, and I know this in sales. I go to you, Will, and I'd go and I'd say, hey, Will, and I'm selling crap like penny stock, and say, hey, Will, I've got this great company. It's going to do really well, $10,000, and you go, no, I don't want to do that. That's too much. Now I go and I say, well, just try $300, and you'll say $300, and you'll try the $300, and you'll say, let's say it grew to $5,000, and you say, I want to sell it. I go and say, no, Will, it's going to go up, and you start telling all your friends, and they all go into it. Now, the way penny stocks work is three months after the last one sold, they can drop the price because they're the ones controlling the price, the guy selling it. Well, basically, it's problem, reaction, and solution. I need to get you in. I can't get you in with the $10,000, but I want $10,000 from you. Actually, I want all your money, but I get you in a little. It's called the foot in the door, and this is known in psychology. Now, we've got algorithms out there that are really taking the steps that our web brains can't do. But getting back to the timeline, because I think this would be helpful to the listeners, and tell us if we're wrong. I want to be wrong, because my brain basically has my spidey senses saying that we're not logged for this planet, living the way we've been living, because we are like the other characters that we don't meet in Hansel and Gretel. What I mean by that, Will, is in Hansel and Gretel, we hear about Hansel and Gretel escaping, but Hansel is in that prison with a bunch of bones from a bunch little kids who got fat, who never escaped. I hope we're wrong about this, but in 2008, the Bitcoin paper comes out, and this is what got Adrian and I really looking further than we had before, and it starts with gold. This is the genesis, and that's a pretty good word. You're the genesis of our next book, The Last Asset Standing, because this paper is very similar as the one that's got the NSA's name on it, and MIT, the 1996. It's almost identical, and it came out when people are thinking central banking and banking is a fraud, and people are starting learning about fiat cash, the fact that it's not attached to anything, and they're saying, we need another way, and it just so happens at that exact moment in history, there's a paper that comes out by a guy that no one knows, who sounds like a sushi roll, who I still can't pronounce his name, and that happens to be my fault. (40:10 - 40:42) I determined that it's an acronym, not even a real person. What's the acronym? What's the name again in the acronym? Okay, his name is Satoshi Nakamoto, and if you break down the lettering, it could stand for Strategic Architecture for Tracking Operations, Surveillance, and Holistic Intelligence, Network Analysis Kernel for Autonomous Monitoring, Observation, Tracking, and Oversight. Right, which is exactly, that just packaged everything we're talking about today. (40:42 - 40:47) Yeah. Yes. Adrian's got a lot of time, he came up with that. (40:48 - 41:27) They're having a number of people that have been saying that it's not a group of people, it's not a person, it is the CIA with an acronym that's behind an acronym with the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. Right, which makes perfect sense due to the timing, that this wasn't random chance, this is all part of the plan. Well, I don't know what the timing is, but I think what happens, and this is, again, this is my wet brain because I'm not a supercomputer and I'm not able to read the future, I wish I did it because the lottery's 400, I don't know what we'd be talking right now. (41:27 - 41:47) However, I think when certain things happen, they say, if this happens, do that. If this happens, do that. Because they have think tanks, that's what they do, and they have, we're told that the technology that we're allowed to see could be 100 years behind than what's actually there. (41:47 - 42:23) So they come out with this, and on January 3rd, 2009, the first Bitcoin comes out, it's called the Genesis, and it sounds really great, and the only people who are getting involved in it are libertarians and tech individuals, and it really doesn't catch on, it's just, it's out there. And again, we operate from the premise that nothing happens in society unless it's allowed. Now, let's use an example. (42:24 - 42:56) Let's say I'm a, we call it a useful idiot or a useful tool, we call them sleepers in our book, and I'm a useful idiot, and I go and I start spouting off stuff, and they realize, well, Peter can't run any movement, we're going to use him. All someone has to do is flip the switch in YouTube, and I got three billion views, and I'm the most famous person in the world. I use the analogy, if I'm a duck in water and it's raining and the water level rises, I'm an arrogant prick to think that I'm causing the water level to rise. (42:58 - 43:27) Basically, nothing is allowed to happen, because you could be Tucker Carlson, well, but you're not, because you're speaking the truth. So they're allowing him to get those likes, just like they allowed Elon Musk to buy Twitter and turn it into some demonic, whatever, because it serves a purpose. Now, whether he's conscious that he's being used or he's not conscious, it doesn't change the outcome. (43:28 - 43:58) This is something that we have to look at. This Genesis coin comes out in 2009 on January 3rd. What was the announcement? There's a code that was in the original code that says that Times, 03 January 09, Chancellor on the brink of second bailout for banks. (43:59 - 44:17) So that came out with that statement in the code. So it was introduced as a means of providing money as an opposition to the bailouts. So that the general public would say, this is a way of getting out of the system. (44:18 - 44:27) Right. Problem, reaction, solution. The problem is people were losing their homes. (44:28 - 44:55) The government bills at the ones who stole it from them. People become angry and they say, we need to get off the system. And voila, there happens to be this crypto that no one's ever heard of, a paper that is released before talking exactly what the paper in 1996 said with the National Securities Agency, NSA. (44:56 - 45:15) And boom, there it is. Just like magic, it pops. And we don't know who this person is, but we're willing to give, or sorry, not me, many millions and millions upon people are willing to give their belief into someone we can't even prove who it was. (45:15 - 45:27) They want to think there's someone like, you know, this is, this is someone who really cared about humanity. Yeah. And how do most of it is happening in China? Think about that. (45:27 - 46:05) And how do we know that the likes of like the early adapters, like Max Keiser, wasn't set up to be a useful agent or a useful tool to promote Bitcoin and some of the more prominent names today, I don't follow them, but were they set up so that they would be very successful and, and, and push the, the, the, the virtues of Bitcoin and get. Can I share some or just be serious, for example? Well, just basic human behavior, right? Like someone gets involved in something. I've seen this because Adrian and I've been in the financial system collectively over 70 years. (46:05 - 46:24) So what happens is your dentist goes and buys some penny stock and he makes like five, $10,000. Now, if it was exactly like I shared with you, the price is being controlled, right? It's being controlled by the person selling. So he tells his other dentists, oh, I made this money and they might allow it. (46:24 - 46:48) These first few people to go and make a ton of money because what's that going to happen? When you look at a lost leader, it's going to be nothing next to what's going to come out of it. So you let a few people make a few hundred million dollars. Well, that's nothing to the three to five trillion dollars that's gone into this stuff, right? Like, it's like these people are running around and say, John was an idiot. (46:49 - 46:56) He had no job. He was living in his parents' basement and he played video games all the time. Now look at John. (46:56 - 47:11) John's got, you know, the most beautiful Russian model and he's got a house, a 20,000 square foot house on the intercoastal and whatever. And what did John do? He bought this crypto. He bought Bitcoin. (47:12 - 47:28) I'm going to do that. And something we're working on right now, and I know I'm getting excited because I'm sharing with what's in our book, in our industry, Adrian and I look at, there's five groups in society. One are called the innovators. (47:28 - 47:44) They come up with something. So these were, I would classify those first people who got involved with Bitcoin, well, early adapters are the next group, but like the innovators are the ones who got in at the very beginning. And these are some of the trolls who were living in their parents' basement. (47:45 - 47:52) I'm going to get shot for that. I'm not telling anyone where I live. And then what happened is the early adapters come in and this is like the 5%. (47:52 - 48:05) The other one is like not even a fraction of a fraction. They're not even identified. And they get blown up on the net that this person became a zillionaire on this, right? And then you got the early adapters and they start making money. (48:05 - 48:20) And then what you wait for is what you call the early majority. And right now, the early majority is running in. And then after the early majority runs in and that is happening faster and faster because of technology, you have the late majority. (48:20 - 48:41) Now, Adrian and I, and well, I don't know your stand on it, but when it comes to Bitcoin or cryptos, we're what you call laggards. You know, like my grandmother didn't switch over to a tone phone from her Pulse phone until she had no choice. Right. (48:42 - 48:49) And I find myself hurt. I have never invested in cryptocurrency. I've never trusted it because it's not backed by anything. (48:49 - 48:57) It's entirely digital. There's nothing to prevent the entire system from being crashed and suddenly all your money's gone and you have no way to prove you ever had it. Yes. (48:59 - 49:32) So just to share with you on the timeline and all those people who know who Edward Snowden was, he was at a contractor for the NSA and he came out and he, you know, Brennan, who I think he's been elected out to be a Saudi spy. He came out and said there was nothing that was not being monitored by the government. And basically all he needed to have was algorithms to be able to tie it all together. (49:33 - 50:02) And we all know that there's this new technology that's come out, which is called AI, and it's able to go and tie things together from so many different sources that they know everything that you do. And most people don't know this, but if you're watching your fall on a video while you're sitting on the toilet, it's taking pictures of you and it's, it's documenting your facial features and your reactions and your emotions. Adrian, you had something you wanted to add. (50:03 - 50:32) Yeah, I just want to finish off the Hegelian dialectic because 2008, 2009 and 2011 is the Hegelian dialectic in motion. So you got 2008, you got the stock market crash, you got the real estate crash, people losing everything, the bankers and the elites are making money, they're getting bailed out. Then you get the white paper coming out in 2008 and then the first early adoption in 2009 of Bitcoin. (50:32 - 50:58) And then in 2011, you know, you've got two years or three years of brewing, people getting upset, more and more people losing their homes. And then you start getting this so-called organic Occupy Wall Street protests in New York and it's spreading. And just like today's protests, those were created by, again, the group who wanted to get the reaction. (50:59 - 51:14) So now they sort of feel the reaction. There was enough, you know, sentiment that has been built up and now that people had to basically have an outlet. So they created the false outrage and that was Occupy Wall Street. (51:15 - 51:25) And then people started, they started talking about Bitcoin and started using that as a solution. So now we have problem, reaction, solution. And that's when Bitcoin started taking off. (51:26 - 51:31) Right. So now, gentlemen, we're in the timeline. We're up to January of 2009, reintroduction of Genesis. (51:31 - 52:04) Let's continue from there. So I mentioned Jeffrey Snowden, he told us that there's nothing that the government doesn't know. So for anybody who thinks that cryptocurrency, which operates going back on the basis of Arbanet, which is the Internet, operates on the encryption of NSA, the SHA-256, if they don't think that everything they do is actually being monitored. (52:05 - 52:42) And in essence, for him speaking the truth, he has not lived in the United States for the last 13 years because he told us that everything that you think you're safe and you've got security and freedom of speech and you're not being monitored and all that stuff, it's a lie. They're capturing everything. Now, what we need to do in the timeline, which this is something I'm going to rely on my friend, who is much more researched than I am, is 2017, because that's where the bait and switch happens. (52:43 - 52:55) This is what no one talks about. This is the greatest, I don't know, if you admire the grifters, you have to admire this. If you want to call the criminals, this is huge. (52:55 - 53:13) They split Bitcoin. So the Bitcoin that everyone's buying, because guess what? It's supposed to be free. It's not copyrighted, right? They basically inserted another code and they took all the money that's been going into crypto that everyone follows. (53:13 - 53:37) It's going into something that's not even Bitcoin. Can you step in, Adrian, and fill those parts? We jumped one step, but the original Bitcoin is still trading at roughly $40 some dollars a coin, whereas the off split is actually the one that everybody's buying into. It's just a hyped up thing that has no value. (53:38 - 53:49) If people stop buying it, then the price will go down because there's nothing supporting it other than demand for it. The original Bitcoin had a purpose. It was going to be something to replace SWIFT. (53:49 - 54:04) That was going to be a transaction protocol. It's not being used of that. It's being used now as a store of wealth, and that store of wealth is only created by the demand, and you have to keep hyping it to keep pushing the demand up. (54:04 - 54:47) Now, there's one step that was missing, and in 2015, there was a blockchain analytics company called Chain Analysis was launched, and it pioneered in a software tracking cryptocurrency movements to link pseudonymous wallets to real world identities. In other words, a system to identify wallets to people's identification and report this to the government. So while Bitcoin was an original target for the surveillance tools were soon adapted and Ethereum, stable coins, privacy tokens, and virtually every major cryptocurrency is now being tracked by the software. (54:48 - 54:53) Right. On a system that was created by the government. Yes. (54:53 - 55:24) So anyone who thinks that they're not being watched by using crypto, but getting back to 2017, there's Bitcoin Core, which it's only worth a bit, and this is the original Bitcoin. This is just they would just say just created a name. They took the name because there was no one going to be suing for copyright, right? Because it was open source, supposedly, and they introduced a new blockchain that has a different code. (55:25 - 55:32) The first people on the current Bitcoin is different than the original Bitcoin. Yeah. People look at it. (55:32 - 55:40) It's like I'm holding this thing here. This is like my honey wax to use, right? They look at Bitcoin like it's real. No, it's just numbers. (55:40 - 55:54) It just changed the combination and they called it Bitcoin. It's sort of like when you buy things and it's not even the same thing right now, but it's in a similar packaging like the Coke that we're drinking now. It doesn't have the same ingredients that it had when we were kids. (55:55 - 56:18) Well, the same thing with Bitcoin in 2017, that Bitcoin that was being traded is still trading at less than $50 UN. Well, this new chain was created and they said, well, it needed to split it because the other one was too expensive to trade and it was too bulky. And they come up with something that's streamlined. (56:19 - 56:34) And that's the one that the banks are using. That's the one that is a hundred and twenty thousand dollars. And well, it's like I could go and just, you know, if your name wasn't like legal, right. (56:34 - 56:40) I could go and say, I'm Will Dove. Like I could say, I'm Will Dove. Right. (56:40 - 56:43) You bring about Will Dove. You're Will Dove. And that's exactly it. (56:43 - 57:11) Just, Adrian, that's what I want the reader to sort of the listener to understand that the original Bitcoin is equivalent to we've got the real Will Dove and now I'm running around telling I'm the real Will Dove and they basically want the world to think I'm the real Will Dove. So Amazon and YouTube, they hit the switch. And the next thing you know, everyone thinks I'm Will Dove and you're running around saying, no, I am the Will Dove. (57:11 - 57:31) But they think I am because it's a scam. And that's something that is everyone who's listening to us, they have to go and research that date, 2017, when they actually faded a new Bitcoin, but they were able to take the name because there's no copyright. Adrian. (57:32 - 58:04) Yeah, you bring up the banks and Bitcoin. If it was private, it was a private asset and it was a secure thing, then it wouldn't be adopted by the banks and the regulators. It is now, you know, BlackRock has the largest Bitcoin portfolio and people are pouring into not the real Bitcoin, but a derivative of the Bitcoin or a promise that they own the Bitcoin and you are a beneficial owner, supposedly, just like any asset in an ETF. (58:04 - 58:25) You don't own anything of the underlying asset that's in the ETF. But now that the financial institutions are riding on the back of Bitcoin, you know that it's a fiat currency, just a fiat asset, just like anything that you can that you buy through an ETF. So that that should be a warning sign to anybody who thinks that crypto, any cryptocurrency is private. (58:26 - 58:44) And secure. OK, now, Adrian, is there anything after 2017 you want to add? Because I want to there's something that's really interesting that happened in 2023 in the Netherlands. And I want to be 20 in 2020, there was the digital one and Bahamas and dollars were launched. (58:44 - 58:56) Now, I can't remember. So I'll just quickly read it. In 2020, China finally launched a digital yuan, also known as the ECNY, through the People's Bank of China. (58:56 - 59:16) It became the world's first major central bank digital currency, CBDC, tied to a major economy. Unlike cryptocurrencies, the digital yuan was fully centralized and controlled by the Chinese state. It featured biometric integration time based spending rules and programmable restrictions. (59:16 - 59:36) Transactions could be blocked or expired remotely. The same year, the Bahamas launched its own CBDC, the sand dollar, making it the first country to roll out fully operational digital or a fully operational digital state currency. These were not academic trials or proofs of concept demonstration. (59:36 - 59:55) They were live systems that allowed governments to control how, when and where money was used. These programs marked a turning point. Central banks now had the tools to bypass commercial banks and interact directly with citizens' digital walls. (59:55 - 1:00:24) So we look at China and we look at the sand dollar being test cases for eventually figuring out, is it workable? How well does the public take it up? And what are the flaws? So they've done the test runs and now we're at that stage where they're ready to roll it out. Right. And as you mentioned earlier, Adrian, what we've got here is what they're moving towards, as you've suggested. (1:00:24 - 1:00:32) JP Morgan in the US, RBC in Canada, they become the only remaining commercial bank. They're controlled by the globalists. Yeah. (1:00:32 - 1:00:42) And their whole system then starts rolling people into the digital currencies. And then eventually they just do away with those middlemen. Those banks go away. (1:00:42 - 1:00:55) The Bank of Canada, Federal Reserve, all central banks become your banker. In other words, you're going to get a car loan through your app on your phone. You're going to get a house loan through the app on your phone. (1:00:56 - 1:01:05) Your business, et cetera, and you're going to be dealing with the Bank of Canada. Eventually it's all, the plan is, and I don't know the final timeline. It might be 2050. (1:01:05 - 1:01:12) It might be 2030. I think 2030 is a bit early for it to get to that point. That's why the 2050 number is out there too. (1:01:12 - 1:01:27) That the final, final phase is when everything is captured would be 2050. And that means you're doing business, if you're still allowed to do business with the Bank of International Settlements, which by the way, Mark Carney was a former director of. Right. (1:01:27 - 1:01:44) And as you mentioned, I think in our very first interview, well over two years ago, when they do this, they've got the treasury connected directly to the Bank of Canada. Yep. And so now the government owns and controls directly all money in this country. (1:01:45 - 1:01:54) Yep. Not just what they're using. Can I rephrase that, Will? The Bank of Canada is a private bank. (1:01:54 - 1:02:10) It means that the Bank of Canada now controls everything. A private corporation, which is basically owned by the Bank of International Settlements, and we don't know who owns that, owns the government's right. They're not even pretending anymore. (1:02:11 - 1:02:22) Yes. Can I jump forward, Adrian, and let's just focus on? Yeah. Pardon? The next test in the whole system was 2022. (1:02:22 - 1:02:42) The trucker convoy. Oh, yes. That's when all these people who thought, Will, that they had this crypto, and we were in our research so far, there's only 10 nodes that 90% of all cryptos go through. (1:02:43 - 1:02:57) Now, I want to use an example. Why this is something that's scary, because people are saying it's decentralized, but it's being completely tracked. So forget about the fact that it's supposed to be a non-trackable. (1:02:57 - 1:03:36) Most people have gone and put their money either in a bank or their crypto in a bank or in a wallet or something like that. Well, there's 90% of all cryptos go through 10 nodes. So for those of your views to remember the Arab Spring, which was not organic, because what came out of it was a disaster for most of the Middle East and most of the people in those countries, that in Egypt, they were able to cut the internet because there was one cable that came through the Mediterranean that brought the internet to Egypt. (1:03:37 - 1:03:46) And all they had to do was cut it. Well, we've got 90% of all cryptos are going through 10 nodes. How easy. (1:03:46 - 1:03:58) And that's what we're told. Maybe it's one because it all flows up, right? And it is going to be one. And we're going to address what's happening today in 2025 with the DTC. (1:03:58 - 1:04:32) But I want to share with you that one of the things that I thought was very frightening, because we talked about in 2013, Edward Snowden comes out and says, wait, everything that you're doing is being put into these huge central computers and all they need to do is run an algorithm. They're going to just find out everything they need to know about what you do. They will even go down to the sanitation department, being able to look at how healthy you are from your fecal matter. (1:04:32 - 1:05:03) I know that's graphic, but I want that image that this is how powerful this is. In 2013, in the Netherlands, where my friend comes from, my good friend, the son of a Dutch farmer, who is actually received in, I don't have to get so graphic, in the Netherlands, there was a gentleman who came up with a technology called TurboCash. Is that the proper name, Adrian? TurboTX? No, TurboCash. (1:05:03 - 1:05:08) Oh, okay. Go ahead. Just tell me, am I right? Am I doing well? Tell me. (1:05:08 - 1:05:18) I'm not familiar with the TurboCash part. Okay. I remember we researched this and he came up with something that was going to be able to hide cryptocurrency. (1:05:19 - 1:05:22) Right. Your transaction. He was going to hide it. (1:05:22 - 1:05:29) Now, Bitcoin is supposed to be private, Ethereum. Oh, you're talking, okay. The timeline is off. (1:05:29 - 1:05:37) In 2023, after the 2022 trucker convoys thing. Right, right. But I want to point out- It's called TornadoCash. (1:05:41 - 1:06:02) TornadoCash, so this guy comes out with this crypto that is going to meet the criteria and obfuscate any surveillance. And you know what happens to this guy? He didn't do anything illegal. They didn't say what happened to this guy. (1:06:02 - 1:06:12) They arrested him and jailed him for creating something that goes against the government. The government didn't want a private coin, a private crypto. Right. (1:06:13 - 1:06:27) And there's- Think about that. So all those people who are holding cryptocurrency right now, no one else is getting arrested, but this guy comes up with something that works within the system, which is completely illegal and they arrest them. Because there's proof. (1:06:27 - 1:06:42) Think about what the implications of that are. Your proof right there that they can monitor all these cryptocurrencies, because otherwise, why would they shut down someone who created a system that would make them private? Because they could not see what was going on with that currency inside. Total privacy. (1:06:42 - 1:06:56) And they said, no, no, no, that's not allowed. Everything that's on the net is being allowed to happen because they wanted it to happen to bring out the next stage. And it's- You have a logical thing I'm asking. (1:06:57 - 1:07:02) They shut it down. I just have a logical question. They passed the Patriot Act. (1:07:02 - 1:07:29) The Patriot Act is saying we're going to do surveillance of money and all that stuff. Like, how stupid do these crypto bros have to be to think that the billions of dollars are going to go into something that's private that goes completely against the Patriot Act, right? Then being able to hide money and transfer it or whatever. Who do they think they are? Like, do they think- Like, did they create the internet? Like, the biggest thing is, if there's not an electrical pulse, this thing doesn't exist. (1:07:29 - 1:07:40) Like, I heard some idiot, Berlik, down in Mexico. I'm going to call him out because he's an idiot. And he goes and says, if the system breaks down, they're going to go to the worst code. (1:07:40 - 1:08:03) Like, it's not real. Here's the problem with the so-called privacy. Every single banker, every single teller, every single person, insurance advisor, anybody that touches finance, touches money, has to do AML, anti-money laundering, and know your client. (1:08:03 - 1:08:30) Gathering all the information, knowing who your relationships are. Are you a cousin or are you related to a criminal? Are you related to a certain politician? Are you related to people of questionable backgrounds? So, that's our job when we onboard a client. And if the client says, no, I'm not giving that information, sorry, I'm not allowed to do business with you. (1:08:31 - 1:09:01) Go find an advisor that will cooperate because I'm not going to lose my license. And the purpose of those measures is not, as they have said, to prevent criminal activities, but so that they can monitor and know who are the people who might be capable of organizing resistance. Our job as financial advisors, regardless of what level you are in the industry, as the gatekeepers and the eyes, and gathering all that information to identify who you are. (1:09:02 - 1:09:17) And basically, we're just gathering information for the government, ultimately. Every two years, Adrian and I, well, I know from my licenses, because Adrian's licenses are a little different because he's in Canada. I have to take an anti-money laundering course. (1:09:19 - 1:09:42) And it's basically telling me how to report to the government, you know, as a drug activity, terrorism, all that stuff. And they have something new. I was speaking with a gentleman named Andy Shetman, and he's one of the biggest gold buds in the world. (1:09:43 - 1:09:51) And he was saying, it's not just know your client. They now have know your client's transaction. They have a team there. (1:09:52 - 1:10:10) That means, like, when you go to the bank, just to be practical, and you take out more than, let's say, $2,000, right now they ask, well, Mr. Dubb, what do you do? What do you need this money for? I just want to know the answer. You're right. It's part of the onboarding. (1:10:10 - 1:10:39) If somebody wants to take out $50,000, what's the purpose of this money? We have to ask that question. Or somebody comes to us with $50,000 in their bank account, and they want to write us a check to invest it with us, what's the source of that money? Did you earn it? Did you inherit it? Or did you steal it? Right. And correct me if I'm wrong, gentlemen, but as the system stands right now, and Peter used this illustration of going to the bank, pulling out more than $2,000, this is something that happened to me not too long ago, and they did ask that question. (1:10:39 - 1:10:49) My answer was, none of your damn business. There's not much they could do about that. But once everything is digital, you can't have it unless you tell them what you're going to do with it. (1:10:50 - 1:10:58) Exactly. Exactly. Well, now again, we are basically gatekeepers, gathering information, source of funds. (1:10:59 - 1:11:04) That is now part of our routine. And we're not being nosy. We have no choice. (1:11:04 - 1:11:14) We're out of business if we don't ask those questions. And you can't do business with us if you don't answer those questions. And you'll end up finding somebody that's going to do business with you if you don't answer those questions. (1:11:16 - 1:11:40) Well, I want to share with you, getting to the end of the timeline, and then we can just have answer questions. Because now we happen to be 2025. 2024, CBDC framework was released in 2024. (1:11:40 - 1:12:04) Okay, yes. So they're talking about introducing central bank digital currency. But what I want to bring it over to Bitcoin, because, and Adrian are fleshing this out, you can see that we're having our conversations for our readers, for people who see the book behind Adrian and I, we have lively conversations, because we want to be proven wrong. (1:12:04 - 1:12:09) And you're seeing a live one right now. Because this is like our conversations that happen. We're debating. (1:12:09 - 1:12:26) We're, yes. So jumping over to 2025, because I know we've been talking, you've been very generous with your time, Will, is that our premise from the very beginning is this is a trap. This is a trap. (1:12:26 - 1:12:43) So right now, there are 10 nodes that do 90% of the business. Most of the crypto currency out there is going through banks and wallets and BlackRock and all that. Well, in our book, it starts with gold. (1:12:44 - 1:13:03) Adrian and I went very deep into something called the Depository Trust Corporation, which was started in 1972 by a man that no one really knows about. His name is William Denzer. Now, let me share with your audience who William Denzer was. (1:13:04 - 1:13:21) This man was the head of the National Student Association in 1952. It came out in 1967 that he brought the CIA in. In 1956, this man openly joined the CIA. (1:13:22 - 1:13:56) In between 1956 and 1967, this man was in Peru organizing financial coups of countries around the world and weaponizing foreign aid for the United States. Well, Peru overthrew the government that he was supporting, that he was placed with the CIA. He came back to the United States and he took over the banks of New York and he started dematerializing these bank assets. (1:13:57 - 1:14:25) Well, in 1972, he was appointed to start an organization, the Depository Trust Corporation, which they took all stocks, all bonds, everything that you owe and dematerialized it into digital ones and zeros where you own nothing. They, Klaus Schwab says, you own nothing and be happy. It's existed for almost 50 years for most people, but they don't know because he dematerialized everything. (1:14:26 - 1:14:40) Well, this man was appointed by the head, and I want to stress this to your audience. I know he's big. The head of the Securities Exchange Commission at that time, his name was William Casey. (1:14:40 - 1:15:39) For those of you who do not know who William Casey was, he was part of the OSS, the CIA, and he ran the Securities Exchange Commission and he appointed this William Dentzer guy to start the Depository Trust Corporation. And for those of you who do not know who William Casey was, he was appointed by Ronald Reagan to run the CIA, and he was the one who was implicated for the Iran-Contra scandal and weaponizing the financial system and basically running the black markets and the black ops by funding it through illegal arms trade and probably drug trade and trial trade and everything else. That is who appointed this other CIA asset to start the Depository Trust, which has, over the last 50-some years, dematerialized everything that you own. (1:15:39 - 1:16:01) When you do own your house, you don't own your stock, you don't own anything. The only thing you can own is what you can touch, what you can hug, and the relationship you have because they dematerialized everything. Why do I bring this up? Because the only thing that this organization has not had full control of dematerializing is cryptocurrency. (1:16:02 - 1:16:15) And on their website, guess what they're talking about doing? Faking over all the exchanges, they're all on the crypto. That's a purple trap. They're going to basically monitor and control all tokens. (1:16:16 - 1:16:33) So that's the next thing is tokenizing real estate, tokenizing your car, tokenizing your DNA. Everything is going to be tokenized and the DTC is going to be running that. And they're also going to control all the exchanges for crypto. (1:16:33 - 1:16:52) Now, as we went back, we are making this an assertion because we want to be proven wrong. And Americans who are spoiled brats, because as Canadians, we don't have a true constitution, it's rights and privileges. We've all discovered that over the last five years. (1:16:52 - 1:17:06) But the United States actually had a constitution and Americans have guns and Americans have free speech, even though they don't use it. They would never accept central bank digital currency. There's enough of them that would say no. (1:17:06 - 1:17:25) So let's create something else. And guess what? Recently, something got passed through Congress and signed by Trump. And can you talk about that legislation that just got passed? It was, I can't remember the exact name of it, but it was introduced. (1:17:25 - 1:17:54) It's not in our paper because we published this paper a week before this act was put in place that now put a stablecoin as the currency that's going to be used to or it's now a tiered asset to be put on the Treasury. So now it becomes a legitimate asset. And interesting thing is Trump has his own stablecoin and he stands to benefit from it. (1:17:54 - 1:18:10) Now, the thing is, there's a number of people started to speak out against it. That is, it is really a backdoor to CBDCs. And it's even worse than CBDCs because now it's going to be run and controlled by corporations rather than the government. (1:18:10 - 1:18:18) And the government can say, well, their corporations are allowed to do that. So there is no government oversight. Yes. (1:18:19 - 1:18:39) And the way they're getting the people to accept this when they talk about putting this under the system that Peter was talking about is by giving legitimacy to cryptocurrency. Because now it's registered with the government, which makes them think that it's now safe. But in actual fact, this is what they've been working towards the whole time. (1:18:39 - 1:18:55) And it's not a government controlled entities. It's corporate entities. And as far as these corporate entities are concerned, they would rather be in control of corporations versus the government because then there is no oversight. (1:18:55 - 1:19:07) Right. And I think one more thing, what you were talking about, Peter, what happened in 1972 that started this ball rolling, no accident. That was the year after they went off the gold standard. (1:19:08 - 1:19:17) Yeah. I want to now do a tie into gold. And I know, Will, you are a gold bug. (1:19:17 - 1:19:29) I'm a gold bug. Adrian is a gold bug because anybody who actually learns this stuff, they have to say, hey, I don't know when it's going to happen, but I smell something wrong. My spidey senses say that it's wrong. (1:19:29 - 1:19:51) Well, the government, the U.S. government, when all this craziness is happening, is passing stablecoin. There are also the DTC, the Depository Trust Corporation, is now going to take over all exchanges for crypto. And that's pretty well. (1:19:51 - 1:19:57) It was created by the CIA, the DTC. We've got direct connections. It's open source. (1:19:57 - 1:20:01) We're not making this up. Go check it out. We want you to. (1:20:01 - 1:20:13) We want you to become informed because it's important to us. You've got the stablecoin. You already had 92 percent before any crypto or whatever was all digitized any way. (1:20:13 - 1:20:46) They want to get rid of it. We found something on the Federal Reserve, which if anybody doesn't have gold right now, after Adrian shares this with you, contract will end by fall. Adrian? Just recently, there was a white paper published or actually a regulation that was proof that now allows the government, the U.S. government, to revalue gold. (1:20:47 - 1:21:12) And there are some people are speculating that the gold will be revalued as high as $20,000 an ounce. Gold is now under Basel III at Tier 1 assets and can be used on the Treasury's books as a number one asset instead of using bonds, Treasury bills. So they now have the legal right to reprice gold at any price they want. (1:21:13 - 1:21:28) And the number is as high as $20,000 an ounce. And that is in the experts are saying that that's possible. So what's actually on it's actually on the Federal Reserve sites there. (1:21:28 - 1:21:47) They can they can revalue it up to $20,000 and there's some estimates it could be $100,000. Now, the only thing is not. Peter Schiff, there's a couple of gold people that have been already before this paper came out saying that gold is going to get revalued at $100,000, which is really far out there. (1:21:47 - 1:21:53) But these are experts in the industry. Let's go back and let's go back to the beginning. Right. (1:21:53 - 1:22:02) Let's go back to the beginning. In 19, in 1971, we get off the gold system. Right. (1:22:02 - 1:22:14) Only two years before there's ARPANET. They introduced ARPANET to the rest of us in 1995. They come up with a paper that says, crypto, we're going to create this complete digitalized stuff. (1:22:14 - 1:22:28) They come up, you know, they completely control it. We've gone through the timeline. People can download the paper by going to the QR code, either by taking a photo of it on Adrian's or mine, and you'll be able to get access to the paper we wrote. (1:22:29 - 1:22:45) And you've got you've got all these people being pushed into crypto, something that didn't even exist, didn't know in existence until, I don't know, maybe 2016. I started hearing about it. I didn't really know much about it. (1:22:45 - 1:22:57) I'm no different than most people. Now it's got to be three to seven trillion dollars. Well, Adrian and I just finished the paper that we're talking about later. (1:22:57 - 1:23:28) But because we like you well and we appreciate your audience, we're going to share with you what's in that paper, because this is groundbreaking that people have to be aware of. And that happens to be that. That the lockdown is going to happen and there's a switch is about to happen, and we'd like to share with you what we're going to be talking later on today, because this is something that Adrian and I have spent a lot of time in. (1:23:28 - 1:23:51) Adrian, can you just share with them a little about the paper we just worked on? Yesterday, I wrote an article for the launch of a new show that Peter and I are going to venture on tonight as a test pilot. And the article I wrote was weaponizing gold. Trump's push to revalue the U.S. Federal Reserve or U.S. Reserves or gold. (1:23:52 - 1:24:29) What is happening is the officially Trump is pushing cryptocurrencies or stable coins. And by putting stable coins on the Treasury and having institutions promote crypto as the new money, they're basically getting the people to buy into cryptocurrencies while at the same time the government is loading up on gold. We talked about that with other shows with New World Precious Metals that the central banks are buying up the gold. (1:24:29 - 1:25:03) It's not just the U.S., but all central banks are buying up gold. So the push is get the people into cryptocurrencies and then the government basically buys more gold and just shores up their reserves. And we talked about that in previous shows where the current gold sitting on the U.S. books is roughly trading at $42.22 an ounce, not the $3,000 plus dollars that it's currently trading at. (1:25:04 - 1:25:45) If they revalued that gold to today's price, they could, and the number I don't have in front of me, it could be about $440 billion. It's on paper right now and it could be worth, what's the trillion dollars? Roughly a third of the debt could be wiped out just by revaluing the existing gold. So then if they buy gold, and this is where there is pressure in keeping the price down in that they're trying to buy more gold, just like all the other countries around the world, they're all buying gold. (1:25:45 - 1:25:50) And the thing is- Well, except us. Except Canada, exactly. Yes. (1:25:50 - 1:26:23) And we addressed that in the article, is that the amount of gold that's being bought by the Federal Reserve, by China, is magnitudes more than what is publicly admitted. So basically gold for the central banks and banks and governments and cryptocurrencies is being pushed heavy for us because they want to trap us in cryptos. And then when the revaluation happens, they could shut down the cryptos and we lose everything, but they hold the gold and they're able to wipe out the debt. (1:26:24 - 1:26:30) So that's really what I think is happening. There's a bait and switch going on right now. And he who has the gold makes the rules. (1:26:31 - 1:26:47) Bingo. Yes. And we address that in our next book, which is going to be launched in January of 2026, The Last Asset Standing, that they are pushing people towards tokenization. (1:26:48 - 1:26:52) But just think about crypto. We talked about it. It is not real. (1:26:52 - 1:27:26) It's just zeros and ones. In 2017, it's common knowledge for those who want to search that they split off Bitcoin and the Bitcoin that people are using is not the one that was introduced in the core, which was on January 3rd, 2009. It's not the same crypto and they've allowed it to grow on a system that was created by the US military and the US intelligence. (1:27:26 - 1:28:04) So anybody thinks that they are able to operate in immunity? Well, that was blown out of the water for me. About five months ago, when I learned about the Microsoft Willow chip, and this is a quantum chip, and it was given an encryption that the strongest, most powerful computer up until that time would have taken 126 billion years to crack. Within seven minutes, it cracked that code. (1:28:04 - 1:28:25) Sort of like a hot knife to butter. And that would actually be a terrible analogy because it was quicker than that. So if anybody believes, after listening to us share this information, that they don't know who owns what, and just something that's very practical, to sell your Bitcoin. (1:28:25 - 1:28:56) So for example, I don't know anything about those sticks, you know, those private wallets they call cold wallets. Well, whatever encryption code that they're using, it happens to be exactly based on what the government allowed to exist, because it would not be allowed to interact, to trade, to sell, to send, if it was not compliant with the protocols that the government has allowed. And anyone who thinks differently, I'm sorry, proved me wrong. (1:28:56 - 1:29:05) I would like to be proved wrong. I also wanted to believe when I was a kid that there was a tooth fairy. I really did. (1:29:05 - 1:29:30) Kids want to believe, and they're lied to, and their parents participate in this great life, that there is a Santa Claus who delivers presents. I want to believe in this manufactured hoopla that there happens to be this cryptocurrency, and it's different, and it's crazy. People get together, they talk about it. (1:29:30 - 1:30:06) We've talked about, all of us, and I'm not an expert in this, about viruses. Viruses were first discussed in 1898 by this Russian botanist who was talking about tobacco plants, and he imagined that there was something called a virus. The way they find out viruses is they take fluid, they put it from somebody who's sick, they put it into a Petri dish, they mix it with simian cells and Loretta Hatch, who had cancer in 1952, which is a mortal cell, this cancer cell. (1:30:07 - 1:30:33) Then they put a bunch of antibiotics in it, and then they starve it, and then it breaks down, and they get together, and they say, this is a virus. People want to believe, but let's talk about gold. Gold, my five senses tell me that it's real, similar to this being, I'm holding it up, being real, something I can touch. (1:30:34 - 1:30:52) Now, not saying you can't eat it, you can't sleep under it because it's too expensive, but it's something tangible. It's something that it's agreed upon that has value. Our fiat currency only has value because we agree that it has value. (1:30:53 - 1:31:24) One thing that we knew about gold and silver is these are two things, two assets that is agreed upon that has value. But if the system collapses, when we write about this, and it starts with gold, our first book in our series, we talk about owning assets in order of asset confiscation. Share what that is, my friend. (1:31:24 - 1:32:28) When I meet with potential clients who come to me, the discussion is on how are your assets currently structured? How safe are they in order of confiscation? We talk about the collapse of the system and how you are no longer an actual physical owner of your assets. You are a beneficial owner, and that was done through the DTC and its other like parties where you are no longer the owner of your assets. So when I build a portfolio, I look at how do you position your wealth in a way that you can stay ahead of the collapse of a system, whether it is through destruction of assets and or confiscation of assets? What is the most secure asset? And then because you still have to live and pay bills and that, how do you structure your assets so you can function into the society? But then being able to get out of those assets and moving toward more and more and more secure assets as time goes on, as we see everything unfold. (1:32:28 - 1:32:58) So it's more about being aware of where we are in this whole timeline and just owning those assets ahead of what's coming. Well, I want to give an analogy for your audience of what this means to them and going through this process because it's something that Adrian and I do with each one of our clients. Two days ago, I was out with my daughter. (1:32:58 - 1:33:04) I live in San Diego. I live not far from a coastline. I live in downtown San Diego. (1:33:04 - 1:33:30) I am a half a mile from Coronado Island, where the US Pacific fleet is housed. But I was up in North County, San Diego, and my phone goes off and my phone says that there's tsunami warnings. And it's saying that I should not return home because it's showing the part of the coast that could be wiped out. (1:33:30 - 1:33:46) I don't know. I remember seeing what happened in Indonesia in 2002, 2003, and I also saw what happened in Japan. I'm thinking, OK, I'm staying where I am because I happen to be about 500, 600 feet above sea level. (1:33:48 - 1:34:20) I'm staying there. Well, when we talk about owning assets in order of asset confiscation, we asked ourselves the question, and anybody can ask this, is what would remain standing? So how high can you get? Now, if it happens to be a 5,000 meter tidal wave, we're all dead. But if it only happens to be, let's say, 200, 300 feet and we're able to be where I was that was over 500 feet, you will survive. (1:34:21 - 1:34:55) But if you're turning everything into being digital, from your work to your money towards whatever, you're going to be one of the first people to be hit. And the first things that we've identified that will be hit will be your bank accounts, will be your stock accounts and brokerage accounts because that money is all mingled in with these institutions that are insolvent. And what I mean by that, people don't want to hear that. (1:34:55 - 1:35:21) But since March 26, 2020, they removed the reserves that are required on banks. Now, I know that all of us are Canadian, but I'm going to point out the States because I like this number. Everyone in the States said, well, I got $250,000 for my account protected by the Federal Depository Insurance Corporation. (1:35:22 - 1:35:32) That's $17 trillion. Only $120 billion is actually in the fund to protect it. Now, the government is bankrupt. (1:35:33 - 1:35:37) They are not going to step in. They cannot do that. Think about it. (1:35:37 - 1:35:53) Debt right now, the debt in the United States right now happens to be about $37 trillion. They cannot afford to go and insure $17 additional trillion. It doesn't exist. (1:35:53 - 1:36:09) So one of the things that I'm a very strong component of, that proponent to that component, I like to think I'm a component because I'm promoting this. For those of you listeners, Will sells gold. Go to him. (1:36:09 - 1:36:19) But this is where I differ from my friend because he's into- I want to make sure. I don't sell gold, but we do have an affiliate partnership with New World Precious Metals. I'm sorry. (1:36:19 - 1:36:22) I'm a senior moment. Yes. Thank you. (1:36:23 - 1:36:39) But what I'm going to say, what I believe in, is take possession of your gold because all we have to do to actually see what's going to happen is by going in the past. So let's look at the past. I always like going to two examples. (1:36:39 - 1:36:54) In March 1933, FDR, the banks got closed. He seized all the gold that was sitting in bank deposits and brokerage accounts. And he seized it. (1:36:54 - 1:37:02) You were not able to have the gold. They seized it and they gave you $20 for that. They gave you $20. (1:37:02 - 1:37:16) That's where gold sat since 1834 to 1933. Three months later, they re-evaluate gold. Now, no one was able to have gold because they seized it if they did not have possession of it. (1:37:17 - 1:37:36) Those who had possession of it, the gold went from $20 to $35. And it sat there until 1971. Is there a history where the gold will be re-evaluated? Will the government seize the gold that's there? Well, fool me once, they seized it in the bank. (1:37:36 - 1:37:45) Well, basically, they're more sophisticated right now. They got people going towards this digital cash, this cryptocurrency. They're all moving there. (1:37:45 - 1:38:08) When we look at the purchases that we're able to see through the IMF, and those are the ones that they show us, not the ones that are happening when China and the United States are actually buying gold reserves in the ground. That's not showing up as what their gold reserves are. It's very easy to see this worked before. (1:38:08 - 1:38:19) Why wouldn't it work again? And that's why Adrian and I in our first book named it, it starts with gold. It doesn't end with gold. It starts with gold. (1:38:19 - 1:38:41) It ends with you having a strong community that we talked about. Those of us who see that something's wrong, that we see that the emperor has no clothes, get together, having useful skills, having seeds. If you're American, having guns and bullets and having community. (1:38:42 - 1:39:00) These are things that are important. And then we look at, okay, if you can participate in the system, get access to gold and silver, I believe you should take possession of it. Because as the shit hits the fan, it's only going to be what you can protect. (1:39:00 - 1:39:09) Yes. And what you have access to. And one thing I want to share with your audience that actually really woke me up to why you need to take possession. (1:39:10 - 1:39:48) Because Citibank in 22 sold 1 billion futures of silver. What was concerning about that is only 750 million ounces of silver is mined a year. So for every piece of paper that someone thinks that they have a claim to gold, do they have an IU for it? There are about anywhere from 400 to maybe 2,000 people or institutions or some entity that have rights to that ounce of gold that you think you own. (1:39:48 - 1:40:48) So it's best to take possession of it now, than to show up and find out that all you had was a piece of paper that was worth as much as the dollar bill that you have in your pocket. And the next best thing and the next best thing to personal possession, because the dollar amount is very large, it's going to be hard to move around with it, is to have it vaulted in a secure vault that's audited, preferably in a jurisdiction that's safer than your own country. Right. Now, gentlemen, there's several conclusions that I draw from everything you've told us today. The first is the understanding that the internet, CBDCs, cryptocurrency, the regulatory rules that you, Adrian, have to follow as a financial consultant, these are all part of one big monitoring and control plan that they've been working on for decades. And so if you allow yourself to be pulled into it, that's what they want you to do. (1:40:48 - 1:41:07) They're trying to bring you into this. The second thing that occurs to me, because I've been reporting on what the globalist tyrants, oligarchs have been up to for years. And one thing that, while I can conclude that these are people who have no conscience whatsoever, I also conclude that they're not stupid. (1:41:08 - 1:42:02) And it's entirely possible, and it occurred to me today as we're discussing this, because you gentlemen made this statement that people are alert now to the problem of the CBDCs. I wouldn't have put it past them to have done that on purpose as a psyop, to start talking about the CBDCs and digital IDs and social credit scores to get people to focus on that while they set up regulation of cryptocurrency, so they can push people into that with people not understanding that they have a system in place already to monitor every single cryptocurrency transaction and control it. And so the final conclusion that you come to when you know all of that is that the only assets that are safe, as you gentlemen have said, are hard assets like gold, silver, possibly real estate that you own yourself, that is in your possession. (1:42:03 - 1:42:11) Because everything else is going to be controlled by them. Well, I concur. Well said, well said, Will. (1:42:12 - 1:42:21) Yes. If you have heard the book called The Overton Window? I have not. You have not. (1:42:21 - 1:42:27) Well, The Overton Window is a- Oh, The Overton Window, I'm sorry. The Overton Window. I'm sorry, I thought you said Oregon Window. (1:42:27 - 1:42:42) No, you have to move so far in a certain direction until there's pushback, and then you bounce back, but you're never back to where you were. So that's in play. So the CBCs and all the rhetoric around the CBCs, you're getting a reaction. (1:42:42 - 1:42:49) While you're focusing on that, they're doing something else over here. Again, another definition of magic. What is magic? It's sleight of hand. (1:42:49 - 1:42:54) Don't look over here. Look over here while we do something nefarious over here. Right. (1:42:54 - 1:43:06) And set up the trap. But the good news, folks, is this. And this is my own personal theory, but remember, I have been reporting on these people for years now. (1:43:06 - 1:43:18) I've interviewed many experts in this area. They, yes, they would like to control everyone, but they understand they don't need to. They just need to control the majority. (1:43:19 - 1:43:40) And so if you are not part of the majority, if you have taken the steps that Adrian and Peter and other people I've spoken to are advising you to take to protect your assets, when the whole system collapses, you will survive it. With most of your progeny or a higher percentage of your assets intact. Yes. (1:43:41 - 1:43:53) Gentlemen, thank you once again for bringing this information. I'm very honored that I'm the first journalist you've shared this with. And I certainly hope that people will pay a great attention to this interview and share it. (1:43:53 - 1:44:04) We will be releasing this interview as a full free interview, though it's not gonna be behind a paywall of any kind. This is kind of information that has to get out there, has to be shared. Gentlemen, thank you. (1:44:05 - 1:44:06) Thanks Will for having us.