(0:00 - 0:14) The climate alarmist narrative is being used to destroy our economy and frighten people into giving up their freedoms. But the entire narrative is false. Which is a diplomatic way of saying, it's a pack of lies. (0:14 - 0:54) A collection of falsified, misrepresented, and cherry-picked data to convince people that man-made CO2 emissions are going to cause a runaway greenhouse gas effect that will kill us all. Frank Lasee, a former Wisconsin representative and senator, and now the President of Truth and Energy and Climate, has written the most well-rounded book I have yet read exposing the false climate narrative. Frank's book, Climate and Energy Lies: Expensive, Dangerous, and Destructive, thoroughly destroys the climate alarmist pseudo-scientific narrative while also addressing the politics of climate change. (0:54 - 1:23) Who's behind it? What do they stand to gain? In this, part two of this two-part interview, Frank exposes the real reason for the false man-made global warming narrative and what those behind the narrative have to gain from it. Spoiler alert, it has absolutely nothing to do with the climate. Frank, welcome back to the show. (1:24 - 1:34) Hey, thanks for having me on. Great to talk about this. This is important, important topics for all of us folks because we generally in the West take energy for granted. (1:34 - 1:47) We have plenty of it. We could still afford it. And there are some forces that are really working against us and they are using the climate change mantra to go after our energy and our food supply and ultimately control all of us. (1:47 - 1:59) And that's what we're going to talk about today. I think it's really important sometimes just a reintroduction of myself a little bit. I served in the Wisconsin legislature as a senator, a representative before that, and in Governor Scott Walker's administration. (1:59 - 2:21) I'm a father and a grandfather. And why do I do this? It's because in order for us to have prosperity, and we should get back to trying to make the world a better place for our kids and our grandkids so that they can enjoy more prosperity, better lives than we have now. And energy, food supply, all of these things, freedom are all tied up together. (2:21 - 2:32) And I'm doing this because I want to spread the word so people understand the dangers we're in and to turn back the tide. It really is. There are some really evil people who are at the center of this. (2:32 - 2:38) And there are a whole lot of people, as the communists used to say, who are useful idiots. They've signed up. It gives their lives meaning. (2:39 - 2:46) They're misinformed. And we've been propagandized. And we talked about a lot about that in the other presentation that we did. (2:46 - 3:02) So you can go back and take a look at that if you haven't seen it already. But we're going to talk a little bit just as a primer again about urban heat island effects and about how they're lying to us about actually the temperature, the very central part of this, and about CO2. And then we'll get into who and why they are doing this. (3:03 - 3:09) Yeah. And I completely agree with you, Frank, that we have to turn this narrative around. You and I are around about the same age. (3:09 - 3:26) The statistics say that it was our parents' generation that was the last one that had a reasonable expectation of having a better life than their parents did. Our children, our grandchildren are not looking at having a better life. My daughter is 23 trying to find a job in a horrible market, even though she's a highly qualified architectural technician. (3:28 - 3:34) We have to fix this. And you're right. This attack upon our energy and our food supply is a big part of it. (3:34 - 3:48) So I want to once again, thank you for taking the time. The viewers don't need to know exactly what you've been struggling with some health problems. And so I really appreciate you making time today to do this interview and to get this second part in which is so important to understand who's behind it. (3:48 - 4:00) However, as you just made reference to, we realized after we turned the cameras off on the last interview that we missed an important thing in debunking the science. And I think we should start with that. Let's talk about this urban heat sinks. (4:01 - 4:19) Yeah, the urban heat island effect, UHI, well known, undisputed, all sides of this issue, whether you're a climate alarmist or climate realist, you agree that there's an urban heat island effect. And really, it's hard to deny because all of us have experienced it. And if you don't believe me, you can on any warm day, even in the winter. (4:20 - 4:26) If you're out in the country, it's cooler than in a city. And it makes sense. You think about it. (4:26 - 5:07) It's the buildings, the HVAC systems, the air conditioning in the summer, all of the urban heat, the cars, the people, the concrete, the blacktop, the lack of trees, all those things make the temperature as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit or about three to five degrees Celsius. Warmer than the surrounding countryside. And you say, well, why is that important, Frank? How does this figure into the whole climate change thing? Why do we even talk about this sort of thing? One is, yes, when you ask scientists, are humans causing warming on earth? Well, we've built huge mega cities that have grown and grown and grown. (5:08 - 5:22) Of course, they're contributing to the heat, but that's not CO2 contributing to heat. That's human activity, making buildings, making our lives better that have contributed to heat. So any honest scientist, if you asked them, are humans making the world a bit warmer? Yeah, sure we are. (5:22 - 5:26) And I agree with that. And it is warmer. We've been warming out of the little ice age. (5:27 - 5:38) Also, as the climate scamsters want to tell us, pre-industrial times, hard to market. We're a few degrees warmer than the little ice age, rather a few degrees warmer than the pre-industrial times. Sounds a lot more scary. (5:39 - 5:59) All right, here's an example of Melbourne, Australia. And this is a worldwide effect and what they're doing everywhere throughout the world. So I could just as easily use right here in my neighborhood in Wisconsin, the Milwaukee or Racine or New York or anywhere else in the world or Canada, Toronto, is they have long-term temperature stations in various different places. (6:00 - 6:11) And at one time they were rural and now they're urban. When they're urban, that urban heat island effect has raised the temperatures by several degrees on average. And yet they don't adjust down for that. (6:12 - 6:24) They don't take these temperature stations out, move it to another rural location and say, we need to have good, you know, good solid data. No, they just mix it in the data and tell us that the data is just honest. Right. (6:24 - 6:30) So thank you for pointing that out. And I've reported on this myself. And you're right, it is a worldwide effect. (6:30 - 6:52) I found some of the most egregious examples were in Great Britain. In one case, I think it was recording something like eight degrees higher than the ambient temperature outside of that area because they put the thermometer up against a building in an area surrounded by other buildings where the sun was coming in from the south all day long and just baking that area. And of course, that gets added to the data. (6:52 - 7:06) And the thing is, though, and you know this and I know this, they're doing that on purpose. They know the data is bad, but they're allowing that in because it supports their narrative. That's exactly right. (7:06 - 7:28) They are in on the scam. And the reason is, is that if they would go against the scam, they lose their jobs, lose promotions, and they lose money. If NOAA and NASA and in Britain or any other place, those agencies that are involved with this are serving their political masters who are taking our money from us in taxes, or in the case of the U.S., borrowing the money and adding to our $36 trillion national debt. (7:29 - 7:48) They are taking this money, paying people who are then scamming us with false, fake, lying data and pretending that it's all okay and that it's not made up. This slide really shows the difference on the left side and these two locations are only about 50 miles from each other. One is in Orland, California. (7:48 - 8:00) On the left side, it's a pristine temperature station that's been out there in the countryside. You can see there's no changes around it. Temperatures have actually gone down. (8:00 - 8:14) They've gone down in the real world. Now on the right side, you see one that, as you were talking about earlier, surrounded by buildings, by asphalt, by a cell tower, by cars. Notice how the temperature has climbed over time where this one is. (8:14 - 8:29) At one time, all of the things that you see built here, the man-made structures that all cause warmth and the air conditioning exhaust fans all cause warmth. They weren't there back when it had temperatures similar to the one on the left side. So this is the type of scam that we have. (8:30 - 8:40) They could easily correct this, but they choose not to. Right. Now, there was a quote in your book and I want to read it because it really highlights the scam and the fact that they know. (8:40 - 8:46) They know they're pulling a scam. And this is from Dr. John Christie. And here's what he said. (8:46 - 9:06) I'm going to read the quote. I was at the table with three Europeans and we were having lunch and they were talking about their role as lead authors and they were talking about how they were trying to make the report so dramatic that the United States would just have to sign that Kyoto Protocol. There's an admission right there that they're cooking the data. (9:06 - 9:16) At least that's the way I read it. Absolutely. And not only are they cooking the data, but then they're trying to put a alarmist face on it to drive political power. (9:16 - 9:39) Why? So they can get more money and more prestige and more media coverage because they're all in on this climate alarmist scam. Not only are they scamming us with the temperatures that we just showed you, they're also making up the data. They literally make up one third of the data for our NOAA, our National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. (9:39 - 9:52) They control and look over all of these in conjunction with NASA, our space agency that does satellite temperature data from around the world, which kind of faded away. It's kind of interesting. You don't see much about the satellite data anymore. (9:52 - 10:01) But they literally are making up one third of the data set. If I made up one third of the data set, I could give you just about any number that you wanted. And it's factually, it's there. (10:02 - 10:09) They put E's next to everything that they make. It's an estimate. But rather than close the stations down or replace them, they aren't even very expensive. (10:10 - 10:21) They just close down ones. Mainly, they're closing down the pristine ones in the country and leaving the ones at airports and in cities existing. And a great example of that is the Miami airport. (10:21 - 10:32) The Miami airport is far busier and far hotter. And what do jets do when they land and take off? They spew a lot of heat with those jet engines. Far more hot today than it was 70 years ago. (10:32 - 10:42) But yet with a straight face, they say that's good data. Right. And folks, for anybody who's questioning what Frank is saying, he's got links to the proof in his book, and you'll find a link to his book beneath this interview. (10:42 - 11:01) So now, Frank, that we've made up that little error of omission on our part from the first interview, let's talk about who's behind this and what they have to gain from it. Well, the real thing, let's get right here. This is a gentleman who worked with the IPCC. (11:01 - 11:17) That's the UN body that's out to prove CO2, man-made CO2, is causing all global warming. And his statement is one, I think, really straightforward. He says right here, and this is quoted, and this is from, this is right out of a publication. (11:17 - 11:25) He said it. It's not made up. One has to free oneself from the illusion that the international climate policy is environmental policy. (11:25 - 11:44) Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world's wealth. So they're right there are telling us what they want to do is they want to get control because how do you redistribute wealth? Someone has to control it. Someone has to decide taking it from these people to give it to those people. (11:44 - 11:57) They want to get control over everything. And I think everything that we're about to discuss has to be done within that framework because you're right. This has got nothing to do with saving the planet. (11:57 - 12:13) It's got everything to do with making you and me and everybody else poorer and the people at the top richer. And if you see everything through that lens, it all starts to make sense. So I just saw a really great clip with with Elon Musk. (12:13 - 12:28) And it was it's really interesting because Elon Musk is talking to a large audience and he's saying, you know, and they were bringing up they're talking about, you know, tell us about Bill Gates. And he's like, well, I disagree with him on many things. And he was really kind of quiet and nice, but you can tell that. (12:28 - 12:59) But he said, you know, the major difference is I'm an expansionist and Bill Gates is not. And this is this kind of is central to the heart of all of this, of why the control not only is a personal power, turning us all back into literally back into serfs, like in the Middle Ages, where the king and queen ruled everyone and you just served at the leisure of the king and queen, as Klaus Schwab has said, who's the head of the World Economic Forum, is you'll own nothing and you'll like it and you'll be happy. I mean, literally, that's what he said. (12:59 - 13:16) The idea is, is that we'll just rent everything. Well, if you rent everything, what happens if you, if your landlord doesn't like you anymore, or you say something or do something that they disagree with? They just don't allow you to lease anymore. So that's the type of control they're looking to do. (13:16 - 13:23) They want to have big companies control virtually everything. So Bill Gates believes we have too many people on Earth. We have 8 billion people. (13:23 - 13:29) He stated it. He said it. It's out there that we have too many people on Earth, but yet he's pushing vaccines and various other things. (13:29 - 13:44) In theory, should keep people alive. It should make you a bit suspicious. But there are people who believe that we should really downsize the world's population from 8 billion people down to maybe 500 million people or maybe 1 billion people at the most. (13:44 - 14:00) Because they make the claim, falsely, that the Earth doesn't have enough resources to support all of us well. And there's plenty of evidence that this is completely false. This is the Malthusian idea that there are just too many humans and we're going to use up all the resources. (14:00 - 14:07) Then there's Paul Ehrlich. And I believe I cover him in my book. I've done so many different presentations, but I believe I cover it in the book. (14:07 - 14:21) It's Paul Ehrlich who wrote the Population Bomb back in the 1970s who said the world by now, 2020, even 20 years ago, by 2000, was going to completely overpopulate. We're going to have worldwide starvation. We're going to use up everything. (14:21 - 14:29) And the world naturally, because of the starvation and the terribleness, was going to downsize population. Yeah. And I wanted to add something to your comments there. (14:29 - 14:42) And it's very, very important. There was a book published in, by two Canadian researchers in 2019 called Empty Planet. And what they looked at was those claims of continually escalating population, which are coming from the WHO, from the UN. (14:43 - 15:06) And they completely debunked them. And the way they did it, because see what they explained was the WHO and the UN, they do those projections just by taking past curves and just continuing them. And what these researchers did, which was very intelligent of them, is they actually looked at the birth rates in countries around the world, because estimates range between needing 2.1 and 2.3 babies per woman just to maintain your population. (15:07 - 15:23) And they found almost nowhere that still had a minimum 2.1 babies per woman being born. And so what they predicted from that was that the world population would peak around about 9 billion at 2050. And then it would start to go down. (15:23 - 15:36) And they said, there's really good reasons for this. The biggest one is education and prosperity. Once you give women an education and the chance to have a career, just like men do, they amazingly decide to stop being baby factories. (15:37 - 15:43) And so it's a self-correcting problem. And this is the thing I want to get across to the viewers. It's very, very important to understand this. (15:44 - 15:58) The earth will never be overpopulated because just to reach 8 billion people requires the kind of technological infrastructure that we have. You have to have logistics. You have to be able to ship large amounts of food and resources in order to support that population. (15:58 - 16:09) And to do that, you need to have computers and advanced technology. And as soon as you get that, now you have removed mostly the physical strength factor from labor. And now it's all about what's up here. (16:09 - 16:21) And a woman can do that as well as a man can. And so suddenly women get equality and they're able to get these jobs and these educations and the population will naturally go down. You can't overpopulate the planet. (16:21 - 16:51) It's just not possible to do it. Well, and adding on to what you said, the other parts of this is, as we get welfare systems, social welfare, social security, old age, in a lot of poor countries in the world, you have to have six, seven, eight, nine, ten kids because you might lose two or three or four of them as they're youngsters for diseases and other things. And even in their middle ages, things like I have, some nasty kidney stones would kill people in poorer parts of the world. (16:51 - 17:01) So you need it. And who's going to take care of you when you're old? At least one of your kids has to do that or you're destitute. So you need to have children and you need to have enough of them. (17:01 - 17:33) And they also, in agrarian, in farming communities, they're helpful because you can put young kids to work, weeding plants, planting things, harvesting and working, going out and collecting wood to burn for fire or dung to burn for fire to cook your meals. So they become valuable. And as people become wealthy and well off, and there's a good chance that your children are all going to survive to old age and you're going to have a social network and you can build capital and have money put away for yourself and your social security and pensions. (17:33 - 17:38) You don't need to have six, seven, eight, nine kids. And in fact, they become liabilities. They cost more. (17:38 - 17:47) So you're paying to raise kids, which, you know, and Elon Musk and I agree with him 100%. My wife and I together, we're a blended family. We each brought three daughters to our marriage and we have a son together. (17:47 - 18:01) So between the two of us, we have seven children. Elon Musk, I think, has even more kids than that. And he makes the point that I'd even suggest that even if we end up with 12 billion, 20 billion people, the earth has plenty of room to support it. (18:01 - 18:15) Right now, we're using the same amount of land that we used 50 years ago to grow literally three to four times more crops than we used to. And we have larger harvests. It's incredible how much, how much productivity we're getting onto the land. (18:16 - 18:37) CO2 is plant food, as we covered in the previous issue. And we have worldwide crop harvests in virtually every crop in every country in the world, unless they screw things up, like following World Economic Forum's ideas in Sri Lanka did. Unless they screw things up, we're going to continue to see that grow because CO2 is mega plant food. (18:37 - 18:49) It's going to take 200 years for us to double CO2 in the atmosphere. And most plants grow far better at three to five times more CO2 than we have now. And we have a 35% greener world than we used to. (18:49 - 18:56) And this is according to NASA, and it's in my book, and you can Google it up yourself. Google hasn't hidden it yet. They're in on the scam, folks. (18:56 - 19:09) They want to hide data from you. But if you Google 2016 CO2 fertilizer effect, you'll see the NASA study that says the world is 35% greener in just 40 years. I mean, if you think about it, it's astounding. (19:10 - 19:20) The areas, and you can Google this up as well, forests the size of France have regrown naturally. They've regrown naturally without man doing much to them at all. So the world is greening up. (19:20 - 19:49) That means more food for people, animals, more harvest, and it takes the pressure off because when people have enough food and they're able to harvest it, and they switch to fossil fuels, natural gas, coal, and oil, and they don't have to cut down forests and gather dung to cook over, which is really dirty and harmful and hard on women. They might be part of that progress you talked about. Then they don't have to do, spend those hours a day getting all those things and cooking over a fire. (19:49 - 20:04) It changes their lives and they have prosperity. That prosperity builds upon it. And the point that Elon Musk makes is that more people are more brain power, more discoveries, more moving forward, better things can happen to us. (20:05 - 20:28) And I really look forward to, and I'm hopeful that at some point, and before I pass away, I can travel to Mars because I think moving to Mars is just a fantastic idea. And we need a big picture, human-directed goal versus this climate change, negative degrowth, worse, less, bad for all of us, bad for our children and grandchildren. We should be optimists. (20:28 - 20:36) And I think even if we had double the population, 16 billion people, I think the world can support it very well. And I agree completely. And the studies support that statement as well. (20:37 - 20:56) The ones that I've read say that this world could comfortably support 17 billion people without us really even noticing the impact. So now that we have thoroughly debunked the overpopulation narrative, now I'm going to ask you to talk about what's the real reason why they want to depopulate the world. Well, it's all about control. (20:57 - 21:18) It just boils down to all about control. And here, I'll read you what we have up here. Imagine waking up to realize that you've been duped about climate change and you're only a pawn in the club of Rome, Klaus Schwab, World Economic Forum, also known as WEF, George Soros, the United Nations, in their Marxist game to destroy capitalism, gain control over all of us. (21:19 - 21:33) And you finally come to the realization that sending money to politicians will have no effect on climate or the weather. I mean, that kind of sums it up. And this was invented more than 60 years ago by the club of Rome, which is a predecessor to the World Economic Forum. (21:33 - 21:46) The club of Rome was a group of very powerful, old, wealthy families that didn't like all the freedom and prosperity that regular people were coming to enjoy. And they came up with the idea and they write it. It's right in a book by them. (21:46 - 21:59) And that's covered in my book and the excerpts from it that tell us that, you know, we're going to use climate change. We're going to use the fear of CO2 to drive our policy so we can get control. Yes, and they have admitted to that. (21:59 - 22:06) You're absolutely right. And Patrick, I think we've got admissions going always back to the 60s of them talking about this. And the climate change narrative is not new. (22:06 - 22:26) As Tony Heller revealed years ago, there are newspaper articles from the late 1800s talking about melting polar ice caps and starving polar bears. Oh, and now that I've brought up the starving polar bears, folks, this is one that I, frankly, if you'll indulge me for a minute, this one drives me nuts. The why people buy this. (22:26 - 22:39) Folks, you got to apply some critical thinking here. How do predators die? Most of the time because they got too old to hunt and they starved to death. There has always been starving polar bears and starving lions and starving tigers. (22:39 - 22:43) And there always will be. It's harsh, but that's nature. That's just what happens. (22:43 - 22:51) They get too old, they can't hunt anymore, and they starve to death. It's got nothing to do with the climate. That's absolutely true. (22:52 - 23:02) So, and they've kind of died away from polar bear alarmism and using that as the face. And they've kind of switched to other places like the Doomsday Glacier. We talked about that in the previous podcast. (23:02 - 23:15) But you know, there are more polar bears now than there were 50 years ago, 30 years ago. And a large part of that is that they prevented hunting from them. But they have the Inuits in Canada who are applying to hunt them again because they're becoming nuisances. (23:16 - 23:25) They're coming in, they're eating in garbage dumps because there's so many of them. They estimate that there's at least 30,000 polar bears. They are an apex predator and they eat. (23:25 - 23:34) I think all you have to do is turn the tide on that and show them eating a seal and the blood and guts everywhere. But they eat seals a lot. And that's their food supply. (23:34 - 23:45) And the circle of life in the Arctic is working great. And in fact, a little warmer Arctic, and it is only a few degrees warmer and it's largely warmer in the winter. So instead of 20 below zero, it's 15 below zero. (23:45 - 23:54) Big deal. It's not the summer that's really warming up so much. And yeah, ice in the Arctic is down about 15% from the highs of the early 80s. (23:54 - 24:06) And they hide the data prior to that when it was also less like it is now because they start record keeping and massage the data. We talked a lot about that in the previous one. So yeah, polar bears shouldn't be the face of this at all. (24:07 - 24:28) Polar bears are doing just fine folks, fine folks. Right. Now I'm going to ask you to continue on with their thoughts before, because what we still really need for the folks to understand is a clear explanation of how, and we remember, we talked about all of this is about a transference of wealth and it all has to be understood in that context, folks, but how drastically reducing the global population would do that for them. (24:28 - 24:36) Would take the wealth away from us and give it to them. Well, and I'm not sure that, I think it's more in the wealth. They're already extremely wealthy. (24:37 - 24:46) It's really crazy how wealthy some of these big families are and the titans of industry are. And you can see a little bit of it. It's hard for us regular people to understand that at all. (24:47 - 25:10) And you have Klaus Schwab in the World Economic Forum and they get together every year in Davos. They just did just the last couple of weeks ago to lecture us about climate change and all the things that us regular people should be doing when they fly literally thousands of jets from around the world, bring these people here, bring them to Davos, Switzerland, up in the mountains where everything has to be catered in. It's not grown in Switzerland. (25:10 - 25:20) The steak and lobster they eat isn't grown in Switzerland. It's all catered in by airplane. And then they fly the last couple of miles by helicopter because they're too important to take cars. (25:20 - 25:40) I mean, it's amazing the hypocrisy of these people. And John Kerry, who is the climate czar for the United States, the gadfly flying around the world to tell us, and Bill Gates, both of them have been asked, hey, you guys take a lot of private jets. And private jets, you know, just one passenger on them or of a handful, put out a lot of CO2. (25:40 - 25:51) How can you do that? In both instances, they said, yeah, we know, we do. But we're really important. The work that we do is so important that we can do that sort of thing. (25:51 - 26:13) But you know, you peons, we need to put controls over you and make you use lots less because, and that's the underlying part of this is, they want to get control and turn us back into, literally back into serfs. It's hard for us to conceptualize or even believe that. And if I were saying this or someone else was saying this, even five or 10 years ago, I would have said, yeah, you guys are just plain nuts. (26:14 - 26:21) But there are plenty that's, you know, just crazy conspiracy theory stuff. There's plenty of evidence. They aren't shy about this. (26:21 - 26:30) They aren't afraid about this. You can look on the UN websites and look for this information where they're advocating that we stop eating meat completely because it's bad for the climate. But yet they do. (26:31 - 26:47) They tell us that we should be eating bugs instead of meat because, but bugs are bad for you. And if you go research it right now, while you still can, there are studies that tell us they, and they're exoskeletons and they cover, they carry some bacterias and other things that aren't healthy for humans. We're not meant to eat them on a regular basis. (26:48 - 26:56) Asians will eat them on occasion. They get some in our food supply, but very small amounts. But the chitins in their exoskeleton are the same thing that's in shellfish. (26:57 - 27:11) Small amounts of it are tolerable, but large amounts on a regular basis will destroy your gut and your digestion system. And there are now, those reports are there. Those studies are there that you can still find because Google makes these things hard to find when the tide turns. (27:12 - 27:31) There are also new studies out that say eating bugs will help you lose weight because that's one of the big issues in the West is overweight people. Well, of course it'll help you lose weight because it'll wreck your digestion system and you won't be able to digest your food well. It's the spin and who gets paid? They get paid to write this kind of stuff and do these kinds of studies. (27:31 - 27:54) So they do them. And it's, you know, there's clues for this around the world and the type of control they're searching to have. One of the big clues is in Australia, the largest bank in Australia has about 20% of the Australians bank with them and they send all of their customers using their credit card data and their debit card data, monthly CO2 reports. (27:54 - 28:02) They call them carbon reports. Now calling CO2 carbon is like calling water hydrogen. It's just a lie. (28:02 - 28:22) It's a marketing technique because it's hard for them to make us afraid of CO2 that puts the sparkle in champagne, the bubbles in your soda, your pop, your coke, and puts the bubbles in beer and puts the bubbles in soda water. And, you know, hard to be afraid of that. Something that we exhale that you can't see. (28:23 - 28:49) But calling it carbon gives my mind and I think other people, black, soot, charcoal, bad, black. I mean, it's just marketing that they do these sort of things, but it's to control us and relentless marketing. And now with this DOJ committee in the United States that's pointing things out, it's becoming very apparent to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars of our taxpayer money was fed into very liberal, woke media outfits. (28:50 - 29:16) And private entities have also paid tens of millions of dollars to media outlets of all sorts to propagandize us on climate, to keep telling us that climate, climate, climate, bad, bad, bad, we have to do stuff and lying to us on purpose. And the purpose is ultimately control. So this Australian bank sends them a carbon report every month, maybe CO2 report, and with suggestions on how they can lower their carbon footprint. (29:16 - 29:30) You can couple that with, and they may have stopped this because they've elected a center right, and there's hope around the world. Europe is pushing back against this because people are starting to find out that we've been lied to on a grand scale. And you can see it every month on your electric bill. (29:31 - 29:42) Wind and solar are cheaper, wind and solar are cheaper, wind and solar are cheaper. But wait a minute, my electric bill keeps going up and up and up. As they add more wind and solar, it will continue to go up, folks. (29:42 - 29:54) So in Sweden, they are beta testing a CO2 tracking card that tracks everything you do. So right now watching this, listening to this, takes a lot of energy. You take it for granted. (29:54 - 30:13) Watching Netflix takes a lot of energy. All of the internet, all the electricity that has to go into it, the electricity of your TV. So they're going to track everything, the food that you eat, the airplane drives, the driving your car, what you purchase, what you use, what you do, your kid playing VR, whatever those things. (30:13 - 30:33) And what they ultimately want to do, why track it? Why do you need to track it? Well, they want to track it so that they can ration it. That's why they want to make food and energy very expensive. So we will, regular peon people, will accept rationing that we would never accept otherwise because they're short supply. (30:33 - 30:55) And if they ration it, well, then we'll all have enough. And they'll try to tell us all of that. And that's an excellent point that you've just made, Frank, because we can start with this narrative and then the fact that they, you know, why, and this has been pointed out to me by a number of other guests that most notably Robert Malone on his book on PsyWar and how to control the population. (30:56 - 31:24) Why force people to do something when you can convince them to do it willingly? And so they continue to hammer away at this narrative so that people will willingly give up their usage of fuel resources that is economical and actually works. And saddle them with much more expensive, supposedly green resources of energy, which as Frank has pointed out, is just going to keep your bill keep going up and up and up, which is another way that they're transferring wealth from you to them. Well, they do all of that. (31:24 - 31:41) And now the final step, of course, is to get CBDCs, digital IDs, social credit systems so they can directly control what you can consume. Yeah, the digital currency is a key part of their plan. And we have no need, there's no need for a digital currency. (31:42 - 31:59) It's like Bitcoin with complete government control over it. The reason they want a digital currency is it's programmable down to the individual and the individual purchase. So they can decide what Frank or what Will or what you can buy. (31:59 - 32:10) And why is that important? Well, you hook that up with that carbon tracking card, the CO2 tracking card. They give you a carbon limit for the month. And then you get to the end of the month and you've run out. (32:10 - 32:19) You've used it up. Well, they'll let you charge your electric scooter, but not put gas in your car. They won't let you buy a hamburger, but they'll let you buy bugs. (32:19 - 32:32) So they'll slowly condition us to use it. And then they'll slowly, like how do you boil a frog, put it in lukewarm water and then turn up the heat and it doesn't realize it until it's too late. That's what they want to do for us. (32:33 - 32:40) And they're going to try to sell this to us over time. No doubt, unless we completely turn it around and we are pushing back. It's great. (32:40 - 32:57) You know, the world, and that was part of the whole world, WHO, World Health Organization. They wanted, they put out treaties to get all the governments in the world, including ours, to sign up, to give them power over health, global health issues. Well, so what? Well, that doesn't sound bad. (32:57 - 33:03) You know, it sounds kind of good. Well, they want to do what they're doing in the EU. And this is a great model for it. (33:03 - 33:19) So all the countries of the EU, all the regular people, they elected their politicians who then send people to the EU, who is the government over all of the different countries in Europe. And then the EU says, well, we have these climate goals. So every country has to lower their nitrogen. (33:20 - 33:30) And we can talk a second about why that's just complete BS. There's zero reason at all to limit nitrogen in the atmosphere. And 78% of our air atmosphere is nitrogen, nitrogen oxide. (33:31 - 33:44) But they want to limit nitrogen fertilizers. So then they tell the Netherlands, Denmark, Ireland, you know, you've got to limit your carbon footprint. You've got to take care of your farmers. (33:44 - 33:51) You need to get 30% of them, close 30% of your farms. Then those governments go shrug. The EU says we have to do this. (33:51 - 33:54) So we're going to do it to you. We feel for you. We don't really want to do it. (33:55 - 34:05) But the EU says we have to do it for our own good. So in Denmark now, what they're doing in their climate craze there is they're closing, they're going to convert 10%. They started this program. (34:05 - 34:21) They're paying for it. They're going to convert 10% of their farmland into forests for the climate. They've also instituted about, it hasn't taken full effect yet, but about $80 a cow climate tax on cows, pigs, and sheep because they're bad for the climate. (34:21 - 34:43) Well, what is that going to do? Everybody who eats those things, it's good price is going to go up. In Ireland, they are now in the midst, the government is paying them with their tax dollars to kill 200,000 milk cows in Ireland. What kind of effect is that going to have? Number one, there's no less people working in that cow industry, but price of butter, milk, and cheese are going to go up in Ireland. (34:44 - 34:57) In the Netherlands, and I think they elected a center-right government now, so I think they've stopped doing this, but they were going to close down 30% of the farms. Close them down. Just close them down because shrug, the EU says we have to. (34:57 - 35:24) So that's what the World Health Organization, WHO, that's connected and very corrupt, connected with the United Nations, was planning on doing, was to get all of us to sign up, do this treaty, give them power, and then they were going to establish a climate emergency. And worldwide, we have to go to lockdowns. We have to do this because, you know, they keep feeding us this tripe, but it's a little bit warmer and that's bad for diabetes. (35:24 - 35:32) It's a little bit warmer and now cities have more rats. I mean, it's just amazing what they make this stuff up at. And with a little critical thinking, you know, it's all garbage. (35:32 - 36:12) Yes. And it's no mistake that this is happening now because as you were making reference to earlier, those central bank digital currencies and digital IDs are going to give the ability to have granular control over individuals, but only if it's combined with AI, which has now finally reached a point where those artificial intelligences can be made smart enough to do that. And now you throw in the quantum computing that you're developing and one quantum computer combined with a smart AI could potentially control 100 million people, track every single one of them, every purchase they're doing, every movement they're making, and then limit that by denying them the ability to travel or to purchase things. (36:13 - 36:24) That's exactly right. And that's why they're inventing and putting these pieces of this puzzle in place together is to ultimately control all of us. And that's why the UN is in on this as well. (36:25 - 36:41) They want more power and control. And by the way, they're completely corrupt. Secretary General Antonio Guterres, ending, by the way, his service for 10 years is going to be ending and a new appointment will be made in January 2026. (36:41 - 36:50) He's a socialist. He was the elected socialist leader of Portugal. He was a highly placed member of the World Socialist Organization. (36:50 - 36:59) But socialism, it's central planning. They want to control and centrally plan through a government. And for many of our young people, you think, well, that sounds really nice. (36:59 - 37:11) Well, it isn't because they can never keep up with the marketplace. And some people are in power deciding everything. So if you want something, you have to go to them and you have to get their permission. (37:11 - 37:17) You have to get their OK. And they help their friends and punish their enemies. And that's just plain wrong. (37:17 - 37:32) And it always, always throughout history, if you disbelieve Frank, study a little bit of history. But that's, you know, hundreds of millions of people have been killed in the name of communism, socialism. And the Nazis were socialists as much as they want to tell you something else. (37:32 - 37:50) It's about government control over all of us. And you better agree with the regime. So they're now using technology with the same idea to use the technology to be able to control all of us with more of a velvet glove of control, at least at first. (37:51 - 38:00) Yes. And just to remind you, Frank, you're largely talking to a Canadian audience right now. Believe me, my viewers know what a bad idea socialism is. (38:00 - 38:09) And especially in the last nine years under Justin Trudeau is a disaster. It's a recipe for destroying your economy and your society. It does not work. (38:09 - 38:32) So I want to move on a little bit with this whole narrative, because as we were talking about earlier, and as I kind of summarized, why force people to do something? Because I haven't quite gotten to that CBDCs and digital IDs thing yet. And I don't think they're going to, quite frankly, I think they're going to fail to do that. But as we said, the first step before that is to getting people to willingly come on board by convincing them all of this. (38:32 - 38:45) And a statistic that is quoted by the media all the time, which I know you can thoroughly debunk and people, everybody's heard it. 97% of scientists agree that mankind is causing global warming. Please destroy that argument. (38:46 - 39:00) Yeah, it is completely and totally false. It is a lie of the greatest extraordinary bald face lie. And I actually saw on the news when Obama actually said it the first time, and then the media was all running with it. (39:00 - 39:08) And it's based on John Cook. It's debunked in my book. There's others who have done just a tremendous job debunking this and looking at the John Cook data. (39:08 - 39:15) He's not even a climate scientist. He's a climate publicist. He's a professor now, but back then he was just a grad student. (39:16 - 39:29) But he made this study up. And what he did is he took about 10,000 climate report or studies of various sorts. And then he excluded most of them, literally most of them, because they didn't mention global warming one way or the other. (39:30 - 39:46) Then he boiled it down and took the remaining couple hundred. And, you know, and it's covered in the book in detail, but he took the remainder of them and he just massaged the data. As I said earlier, when we're talking about the urban heat island effect, is man contributing to warming? Yes. (39:46 - 39:49) OK, all right. Oh, see, they're in the camp. They believe in global warming. (39:50 - 39:57) Is CO2 contributing to warming? Well, yeah, it is to some extent. Absolutely it is. But is it dangerous? No. (39:57 - 40:11) Is it exponential? No. In fact, we pretty well saturated the CO2 effect on the warming of the world. It's really water vapor that's the most important greenhouse gas by far. (40:11 - 40:24) And it's 50 times more abundant than CO2. And by the way, the methane and the natural gas, they're working on regulating to regulate, make our food supply more expensive. Water vapor is 50 times more abundant than CO2. (40:24 - 40:31) It's 11,000 times more abundant than nitrous oxide. And it's 60. No, it's the methane. (40:31 - 40:43) I'm sorry. It's 11,000 times more abundant than methane or natural gas. And it's 60,000 times more abundant than more abundant than the nitrous oxide. (40:43 - 40:52) It's just absolutely amazing. In the previous presentation, we were looking for this to talk about this. And this is important with the greenhouse effect. (40:52 - 41:05) I know it's segwaying back a little bit. But these absorption rays, this is the absorption of the heat coming off of the earth, slowing down before it goes out into the very cold outer space. It's lost to the outer space. (41:06 - 41:24) And what's important about this is on the bottom, when you look at the total absorption and scattering, is the water vapor here. When you look at this line of water vapor, the carbon dioxide, all the dark is where it absorbs the heat and slows it down from leaving space. You look at carbon dioxide, it occupies a big part of what water vapor does. (41:24 - 41:31) Here's a little bit where it's different, but otherwise this area. So carbon dioxide warms a little bit. Oxygen and ozone, really nothing. (41:31 - 41:41) Here's that methane again. Methane is completely dominated by water vapor. Nitrous oxide is completely dominated by water vapor. (41:41 - 41:55) And in the case of nitrous oxide, the same area with CO2, carbon dioxide. What this means is, that they have almost no effect at all on heat. And both of them are minuscule parts of the environment. (41:55 - 42:08) And both of them will take 270 years to double at present rates of increase. And they'll still be minuscule, inconsequential parts of the atmosphere. But yet they're using them with a straight face. (42:08 - 42:26) And we're being propagandized by them, by the media, that they need to be regulated and limited because then they can attack cows and our food supply. All of the food supply. There's even World Economic Forum, they put out press that says, growing your own food is bad for the climate. (42:26 - 42:40) So I mean, they want total control through big farms, big companies, so they can control us in every single different way. It's just amazing where they're going with all of this. And really it is for no good purpose other than controlling all of us. (42:41 - 42:49) Right. And I saw a slide that you had up earlier. And I'd like you to talk about that one, where all of this is contributing to the increase in food prices. (42:50 - 43:18) Yes. Well, and that's a big part of what this is about is, if you can create energy shortages, and we, again, we just kind of take it for granted, don't think about it much, but that's what we're doing here is working to get you to think about and be critical thinkers, is it takes a lot of energy for our food supply. Even if you're eating vegan, getting those almonds from an almond farm, they've got to, first kill all the animals that want to eat them, and all the bugs that want to eat them. (43:18 - 43:26) So they got to use some kind of chemicals and things. On almonds, for instance, in California, use a huge amount of water, which is a problem for them. But really there's plenty of water there. (43:26 - 43:46) It's just government mismanagement. But to plant crops, you've got to use a lot of energy to plant them, harvest them, protect them during the year, then process them, package them, transport them, put them in the refrigerator, sell them to us, and then the energy to cook them at the end of it. All of that's energy intensive. (43:46 - 44:05) So if energy prices go up, food prices go up. If you add more regulations and clamp down on their ability to grow them, then the prices go up. So both of those things together, making energy and food, the two most important things for anyone's life, go up in prices, lends them then to that place of we'll give you control. (44:06 - 44:25) So high food and high energy prices will cause starvation, civil and political unrest, and that's where they can step in with the answer. If you just give us control, we can stop all these bad things from happening. And that's where they're working to push us into a place where we'll say, oh, okay, save us. (44:25 - 44:29) This is so terrible. We need to be saved. Please, please. (44:29 - 44:47) Because they know that we would never vote for this stuff ourselves. We would never accept it ourselves if they just tried to foist it on us. So they've got to lie to us, hide it from us, propagandize us, and then push us into a corner where we're willing to accept their allotments of individual carbon allotments and rationing. (44:49 - 45:10) And sadly, it's working. I have spoken to a number of teenagers, friends of my own kids, who are not planning for their future because they are absolutely convinced that 10 years from now, we're all going to be dead. And that's how effective this messaging has been to you and I and to anybody watching this who were rational people, were critical thinkers. (45:10 - 45:18) And we would say, well, wait a minute. Just look around you. You know, they've been telling us this for decades, centuries, that we're all going to die from global warming, and we're still here. (45:19 - 45:30) And the planet really hasn't gotten any measurably any warmer or noticeably so. So clearly, that's not true. And yet they've managed to get through, especially to the youth, to get them to buy this. (45:30 - 45:49) And the question I think I would have, Frank, is, and I'm sure you've given some thought to this, is, so right now, you and I, we're sitting here and we're educating a lot of people who are typically older. I strongly doubt there's any teenagers watching this. How do we get through to the kids? How do we show them, no, you do have a future. (45:50 - 45:58) This is all bunk. It's not happening. You know, we have to, you know, I'm asking people who are listening to this, and that's why I wrote the book. (45:58 - 46:13) I mean, read my books so you're well-armed, and they have facts there. And I've discovered with my more woke, and we have them, we have seven kids. We have some of them who will listen and some of them who are so woke that they will not look at facts they disagree with. (46:14 - 46:18) It's, you know, they'll check the source. Oh, that's a right-wing source. Yeah, I won't even look at it. (46:18 - 46:39) It's like, you know, I thought I tried to get you to, you know, apply critical thinking, look at all information and then determine if it's true or false and use your critical thinking. So we have to have those uncomfortable conversations and not allow them to pull their little woke stuff on us. You know, it's like, well, you know, I'm not gonna let you see the grandkids if you even talk about those things with me. (46:40 - 47:07) Well, maybe you have to let them go a little bit, unfortunately. But we have to have those uncomfortable conversations because, and I would suggest also to tell them, what if you're wrong? If you're wrong and in 10 years from now, the world is just fine or maybe a bit worse in your idea, maybe better. But if it isn't right in 10 or 20 years, so you've put your whole life on hold to live in a world that you've created in your head that's really bad for you. (47:07 - 47:20) But we have to have those conversations. And the reason I wrote, one of the reasons I wrote the book is that we need more people to get awake to this idea, to go from woke to awake. And then they need to talk to people in the middle. (47:20 - 47:47) And the only time I advocate really arguing with someone who's woke and has bought all of the garbage or is one of the climate religionists, and we didn't really cover that as well, is it's a religion for many people. They've given up a belief in God and a higher power and they bought into woke liberal policies of which climate change is a plank of that. But it's also a religion onto itself where people, some people get a lot of value for themselves and can kind of feel good and superior by being climate people. (47:47 - 48:00) But in the meantime, they drive cars that use gas. They live in homes that are using natural gas and electricity and coal power and all these different things. They don't live their truth, but they want to force us to get to their supposed truth. (48:00 - 48:16) And they get very angry with you when you give them facts that don't support their truth. Their faith, because it is faith, because it's not built on facts. So we need to have those uncomfortable conversations with people and gently take them from where they are. (48:16 - 48:31) And the only reason, the only time I'll argue with a woke person is if there's someone who is convincible, who can listen to both of us. Because invariably, I can tell you what invariably happens is when you start confronting with facts is they get angry with you. They call you names and then they'll usually run away. (48:32 - 48:50) Almost always they'll never gauge you with facts and give you a tit for tat and say, oh, you know, if this is getting warmer, her urban heat island effect, they won't want to hear any of that. So you've got to help educate people and bring them from where they are to closer to the reality of the world. I'm a climate realist. (48:50 - 48:56) Yeah, it's a bit warmer. And actually a bit warmer is really great for everybody. And Canadians should embrace the warmth. (48:56 - 49:12) And by the way, for Canadian audiences, the tree lie that tells you when it gets too cold for trees to grow. In the past, 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 years ago was literally 150 miles further north. It was further, far further north than it is today. (49:13 - 49:36) It was warmer in the early Holocene times, 5,000 to 10,000 years ago. And they just found a whole forest that's coming out of a glacier in the Rocky Mountains that was covered for 5,000 years by ice. 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(51:34 - 51:51) And you're absolutely right at being a religion. Another expert I've interviewed on the false man-made global warming narrative is a Canadian, Tom Harris. And he was originally very much a climate alarmist until a fellow professor showed him the actual data. (51:51 - 52:05) And that right there, and now for years now, he has been a very outspoken opponent of this narrative and very grounded in the science. And that right there shows people there is a point in talking to people. Yeah, I agree. (52:05 - 52:13) Don't waste your breath on the woke. And you can tell who they are right away because they're basically overgrown children. It's all about emotion with them. (52:13 - 52:23) It's all about what they believe. And if you express any belief that's opposite to theirs, they're just going to get angry with you and call you names. But there are others who have just genuinely been deceived. (52:24 - 52:31) And those ones, when you sense that somebody might be open to it, show them this. Read Frank's book. Watch interviews like this. (52:31 - 52:43) There is just libraries of information, even on YouTube, that will debunk the whole narrative. So there is a point in having this discussion. Now, Frank, you're the expert. (52:44 - 53:00) You've written the book. And as I said in the first interview, even though I've interviewed scientists on this, you're not a scientist, but I think your book is the most comprehensive picture of debunking the science and exposing the forces behind it that I've read yet. And folks, you should absolutely read the book. (53:00 - 53:11) You're the expert. We've covered a lot of ground in two interviews, but I want to give you the floor now for anything left that you feel that the viewers need to hear that I just didn't think to ask you. Yeah, well, thank you. (53:11 - 53:24) And thank you for the kind words about my book. And that's exactly what I do. And I know it's thick for many people who aren't regular readers, and you can digest it a little bit at a time or put it in your bathroom and use it for bathroom reading because you can break it down into smaller chunks. (53:24 - 53:43) But it has a lot of sources and graphs and where the graphs came from and government sources and sources of all sorts. So you can see it for yourself. And I wrote it that way, and it's thick because of that, because I'm a skeptic and always have been, and I've done just an unbelievable amount of research. (53:43 - 54:01) And I know for regular people, it's really hard to do this research yourself. And, you know, for instance, if you Google Antarctica and Antarctica melting, they'll talk to you about the Doomsday Glacier, Thwaites Glacier. They'll make you believe that this continent, almost the size of North America, is melting. (54:02 - 54:10) In fact, it hasn't warmed in 70 years. And recently it may even be colder. It set cold records multiple times in the last decade. (54:10 - 54:20) We have good records there now since 1956, when they put the first temperature stations there. So it isn't warming at all. There is a peninsula, kind of like the Baja Peninsula of North America. (54:21 - 54:26) There is a peninsula that sticks out. That is being warmed. That's where the Doomsday Glacier is. (54:26 - 54:34) Again, that language usage. It's the Thwaites Glacier. And why is it melting under there? And the glacier is a big, extends over the ocean there. (54:35 - 54:51) And it's natural when glaciers grow for them to calve, for them to put off icebergs. And those icebergs are floating fertilizer tablets in the ocean because oceans, most of the ocean are deserts, have very little animal life, very little of any life. And the limiting factor are minerals. (54:51 - 55:05) Those icebergs contain minerals. When they float away, they have all kinds of plankton following behind them that are living off the minerals, and then all kinds of other animals that are eating that plankton. It's the part of the circle of life. (55:05 - 55:28) And underneath the Thwaites Glacier, the ocean is several degrees warmer because there are 138 active volcanoes letting off some of Mother Earth's heat. The internal temperature of the Earth is 6,000 degrees, and it lets some of that temperature out through volcanoes. So it's not warming exponentially anywhere. (55:29 - 55:48) It has nothing to do with CO2 whatsoever. It has everything to do with a warming ocean. But I challenge anyone who's listening and doubts the things that I've been saying, try to find that on Google or any other search engine you have, or AI, and ask AI some really tough questions and ask them about the volcanoes after they first don't tell you. (55:48 - 55:57) Ask them if it could be the water warming underneath it. And eventually you will get to the real answers of this. So the rabbit hole goes really, really deep on this. (55:57 - 56:22) And we've been sold so much that it's just plain, flat-out lies on the climate to drive energy lies to really hide what's been going on with the real agenda is these evil people who want control and more wealth. They want to make themselves literally the kings and queens of the world with all of their minions as long as you do what they want. You can be well off and if you're regular peons, your life will suck. (56:23 - 56:31) And we didn't even cover 15-minute cities. We didn't cover all some of the other crazy stuff. And maybe that's a quick thing we should talk about are C40 cities. (56:31 - 56:38) You can find these. Some Canadian cities are in it. About 100 of the major cities around the world, their mayors have signed them up. (56:39 - 56:46) Not their city councils. They never took a vote because they couldn't if they did. C40 cities is an organization. (56:46 - 57:07) There are 17 of American cities who make up one of these 100. And their goal, buried in their documents, and they may have disappeared it now, but their goals for their cities was to make their cities 95% or all vegan, to limit and get rid of all cars. They want to get rid of 95% of all personal-owned cars. (57:08 - 57:16) These are for their citizens in their city. They want to limit their citizens to one plane flight every four years. One plane flight every four years. (57:16 - 57:33) And now this one, I think some men might find pretty good and many women will be aghast. They want to limit us to three clothes outfit purchases a year. So you only get three outfits, new outfits a year because you know having a lot of clothes is bad for the environment. (57:33 - 57:39) It's bad for CO2. So this is the type of stuff. They also want to create 15-minute cities but they'll lock you in. (57:40 - 57:49) And I didn't understand it until recently of why that's so important to them is the theory is, it sounds nice. That's what they do is market us. This sounds nice. (57:49 - 58:08) Is everything you'll need will be in within 15 minutes of your house. You can walk to your grocery store, walk to your job, walk to your childcare. And you're limited to leaving that 15-minute city and it'll have borders and then they need control and devices, electronics to give you tickets. (58:08 - 58:24) If you leave your 15-minute city more than 100 times in a year, that's only 100 days out of a 365-day year. What if your mom is across town? Your kid's school is farther away. All those sort of things. (58:24 - 58:48) In the proposal, they did this in Oxford, England. They're trying to do it in Canada is that then they will fine you $70 for every time over 100 you leave your 15-minute city. So what they want to do then is well get you to accept that and say, oh, it's really nice and good and you can walk and you got everything there and many of the people, I often will call them sheeple, will go along with this and then we'll communicate. (58:48 - 59:10) You can communicate like we are through Zoom and your phone and your Snapchat and your WhatsApp and all this other stuff. And so it's not really a big deal. Grandma lives in a different 15-minute city so you can still communicate with her through electronics until they get everybody or the vast majority of us living in these 15-minute cities and then you just turn off the electronic ability to communicate. (59:10 - 59:32) Now you've isolated each of these little pockets of 15-minute cities. That's ultimately how evil these people are and where they're ultimately looking to go. The evil knows no bounds and for most of us it's hidden and there are minions and minions who are living off of the green grift and the graft and they're getting money from things. (59:33 - 59:46) And one other thing we should talk about, we did talk about is energy. Having affordable, reliable energy is the cornerstone of prosperity. Without it, we will go in the dark ages and right now, and it'll allow communist China to dominate. (59:47 - 1:00:01) Communist China gets 56% of all of their energy from coal. 56% not just their electricity but all of their energy from coal. It is the dominant source of their energy. (1:00:02 - 1:00:12) India is growing exponentially now. They get 75% of all their energy from coal. Both India and China together are building hundreds of coal plants. (1:00:13 - 1:00:35) Worldwide coal usage and natural gas usage and oil usage continue to grow. We are setting records every single year. This slide talks about where we're getting most of our energy and you can see about 1950 we really started ramping up and coal, oil, and natural gas provide 83% of the world's energy and wind and solar provide just 3%. (1:00:36 - 1:00:52) We are getting all of the energy that drives our prosperity from coal, oil, and natural gas. We use 8.5 billion tons of coal and I bring this up because we never think about it in the big picture. It's just hard to conceptualize how much that is. (1:00:53 - 1:01:05) Communist China uses more than the 8.5 billion tons of coal annually. That's equivalent to the energy of 41 billion barrels of oil. 41 billion barrels of oil. (1:01:06 - 1:01:14) We use 36 billion barrels of oil. That's about 42 gallons in a barrel if I got that right. I might be fuzzy on that detail but it's at least 40. (1:01:16 - 1:01:29) The U.S. uses 20 million of the 100 million barrels of oil used every single day and we import 7 million barrels much of it from Canada. Thank you very much. Helps the Canadian economy as well. (1:01:29 - 1:01:45) Good for everybody. Lots of good paying jobs. In addition to that, all coal, oil, and natural gas, we make 6,000 products out of it and many of them, like the medical things that I'm going through right now, couldn't be made without oil, natural gas, and coal. (1:01:46 - 1:02:14) They just couldn't be made and people will die if we somehow try to get rid of it as the climate alarmists tell us. But it's hard for us to conceptualize 36 billion barrels or the 41 billion barrels of oil equivalent energy from the coal which is the primary source of energy around the world. But natural gas, another really huge big number, 137 trillion cubic feet of natural gas used annually. (1:02:15 - 1:02:33) And again, these are all growing. The gargantuan amount of energy it requires for us to enjoy good lives, to stay warm in the winter, cool in the summer, bring our food to us, enjoy life, visit grandma, visit a job, do what we're doing right now, just takes a gargantuan amount of energy. That's not going to change. (1:02:33 - 1:03:01) If we want to keep prosperity, we have to. And it's just pure fantasy land, pixie dust, crazy world, to pretend that we could replace all of that energy coming from coal, oil, and natural gas, fossil fuels, and they aren't fossil by the way, but that's another topic to talk about, is that replacing it with wind and solar anytime soon in a decade or two or five or ten decades is just plain tripe. It's fantasy land garbage. (1:03:02 - 1:03:10) It is. And I'm glad you mentioned that bit about it not being fossil fuels. I was sitting here debating whether or not I should bring that up, but I think we should. (1:03:11 - 1:03:23) And I know that there's going to be some people who are going to dismiss this as nut jobs because, well, we've all been taught that it's fossil fuels, that it comes from dead plants and animals, except it probably doesn't. Let's talk about that. Yeah. (1:03:23 - 1:03:40) And I think, you know, you got to apply your critical thinking and think about this a little bit. We've been told that it's fossil fuels, that coal mainly comes from the earth hundreds of millions of years ago when plants grow really huge. And there's some evidence of that in the coal mines, in the coal areas. (1:03:41 - 1:04:27) They find huge ferns and trees and other things. But also one of the big clues out there, because we don't have lots and lots of time to go into this, but a great big clue, again, critical thinking, is one of the moons of Jupiter is completely made up of natural gas, of natural gas, methane. Okay. And they have found oil out in space. If it's a fossil fuel, and maybe the only way you could make it is with fossils and the pressure of the earth, how could their planet, how could those moons have all of that methane and oil there, petroleum there? It doesn't make any sense. You just got to think about that for just a little bit. (1:04:28 - 1:04:40) And I know many of my geologist friends, they believe what they've been taught, and that's how much of this is taught. And I did some really strong research on this a couple decades ago. Where did it come from? And it's just a theory. (1:04:40 - 1:04:57) It's a theory of how oil is made. And I think there are more people who believe that at least natural gas, methane, is being made all the time. And I think it's pretty easy to conceptualize that, because I guess all of us have had the experience of maybe eating some beans and having a little bit of natural gas made from it. (1:04:57 - 1:05:13) The earth, because it's 6,000 degrees in the center of it, we have all these minerals and various different things and all that heat. And when that heat hits different types of metals and other things and earth, it creates natural gas. That's my firm belief. (1:05:13 - 1:05:23) And I think you can get more of the geologist crowd out there to go, yeah, maybe we'll concede natural gas. And of course, there is that moon that has methane or natural gas. They're both the same thing, just named different. (1:05:23 - 1:05:34) And that's also kind of that method of propagandizing us. If you call it natural gas, the industry came up with that. Great, great things. (1:05:34 - 1:05:52) Bad stuff. But if it is out there like it is, well, how did it get there? And why can't it be made more? And why that's important, folks, is if these are renewable resources, if oil, natural gas, and coal are renewable, they keep coming. The earth keeps making them. (1:05:52 - 1:06:07) It changes the whole dynamic of the Malthusian talk we talked about earlier, that the world is limited, that it can't support more people, that we're going to run out of resources. We have to conserve. We have to not use because it's going to become short. (1:06:08 - 1:06:30) And by the way, folks, with present technology, and we're finding more and more all the time, but with present technology, we have estimates there are multi thousands of years of coal at the present usage of eight and a half billion tons of coal every year in growing years. We have thousands of years of coal in the ground to harvest with the present techniques. We have literally 500 to 1000 years of oil, they estimate. (1:06:31 - 1:06:36) And we're finding billions of barrels of oil reserves all over the world, all the time. It's amazing. It's all over. (1:06:36 - 1:06:51) It might be really, really deep. Now, they've gone down now almost like five or six miles almost to harvest oil in China. So they used to think there was no oil under China, but now China is quietly harvesting more oil and more and more, but it's really, really very deep. (1:06:51 - 1:07:05) We use fracking technology. That's controversial to some, but we have thousands of years and natural gas, like I said, we have multi thousands of years of natural gas. And I believe that they're all being made all the time. (1:07:06 - 1:07:14) And I agree with you. I came to that conclusion myself years ago. And yeah, it's a, it's a contentious issue to bring it up, especially around certain people who work in the oil industry. (1:07:14 - 1:07:26) I live in Calgary, which is, it's like Houston, Texas for Canada. That's the center of the oil industry here. And yes, I've gotten some very hostile looks from geo-engineers when I talk about that. (1:07:27 - 1:07:42) And yet, as you point out, that theory that it comes from biological matter, it doesn't make sense. And here's a couple of more points to add to what you said. First of all, we've got the examples of oil fields that have basically been tapped out and then they'll go back 20 years later. (1:07:42 - 1:08:01) Oh, and there's more oil. And I had this conversation with a geological engineer who works for an oil company, but he was on our side, more open-minded. And he added to that argument, he said, and the other thing that happens a lot is we'll go back, say 20 years later, and now there's natural gas coming out of there where we were harvesting oil before. (1:08:01 - 1:08:12) Well, where did it come from if we depleted it all? Well, obviously it's replenishing. And so if we are correct, then you're absolutely right. This is not a non-renewable resource. (1:08:13 - 1:08:36) Coal, oil, natural gas, all of these things could be thought of to say we think of wood coming from forests. As long as we're regrowing it and at least the pace at which we're using it, we don't have a problem. And so if all of these supposed fossil fuels are being generated within the earth as part of just natural processes, then it's a simple matter of management of not using it faster than it's replenishing. (1:08:38 - 1:08:44) That's absolutely correct. Absolutely correct. And, you know, we keep talking about all of these sort of things. (1:08:44 - 1:08:58) The facts don't support the predominant narrative. And I know you're heavily propagandized with it in Canada. We are in the U.S. Thank goodness now we have a new president whose head is in the right direction so rapidly. (1:08:58 - 1:09:06) It's incredible. But, you know, growing America, growing our energy supplies, which is going to filter over to Canada. It's already having good effects there. (1:09:06 - 1:09:13) But you're going to need a prime minister going forward. You're going to have your elections, I think, sometime this year. You're going to need a prime minister. (1:09:13 - 1:09:24) And I'm not even sure that your primary conservative candidate, he still believes in limiting carbon, but he'll just have the private sector do it somehow. That isn't the right answer. Trump does have the right answer. (1:09:24 - 1:09:37) This is a climate hoax. It's being driven by evil people and their dupes and their grifters and grafters who are getting wealthy off of it, who don't care about the future. And it harms our prosperity. (1:09:38 - 1:09:42) It makes us weak. It makes China strong. Makes us weak. (1:09:42 - 1:09:49) Makes China strong. They're part of that totalitarian regime. It's all about this control and whittling us down. (1:09:50 - 1:09:58) And I believe in maximum freedom. I mean, really, we need to have capitalism. Let's see, here we go with this. (1:09:59 - 1:10:17) Capitalism. You got to have private property, the rule of law, reasonable rule of private contracts, free exchange of ideas and goods and services like we're doing now, having a conversation. And by the way, folks, anyone who's listening to this, I would be happy to have a regular debate with any climate alarmist ever. (1:10:17 - 1:10:23) They don't do it because the facts don't support their position. They want to just create the alarm. But I'm happy to have that conversation. (1:10:23 - 1:10:45) I'd be happy to go to college campuses and talk to people or do it by Zoom because this is such an important topic. And this is what they're really out to get. And we got to have reliable, affordable, abundant energy to make all those things for private property and for our capitalist system and for prosperity and for getting to Mars and colonizing Mars. (1:10:46 - 1:11:00) We need to have all these pieces and parts to make this happen. And we're headed in the right direction as long as we push back this global climate alarm stuff. It's just, it is a hoax used to drive all the things we've been talking about. (1:11:01 - 1:11:16) Yes. And just, I wanted to throw in one little perhaps interesting comment for our American viewers, because you're right. While Pierre Poilievre and the conservatives would be a huge improvement over Trudeau or Carney and the liberals, he's not Trump. (1:11:16 - 1:11:47) And he's not going to take the same very decisive steps that Donald Trump has. And while I've read enough about Donald Trump to I think have some idea of what's going on in his head, that whole bit about Canada becoming the 51st state, that's a negotiating tactic. But you would be surprised for you and for other American viewers, how many people here in Canada, especially here in Alberta, my province, which is the most conservative province in the country, who are saying, where do we sign up? Please, please, because this country is a disaster and Trump's going in the right direction. (1:11:48 - 1:12:01) And you have no idea how much we'd love to see those kinds of things happen here. Unfortunately, while I think Poilievre, if he does form the next government, is going to be an improvement. He's not going to do the same kind of decisive actions that Donald Trump is doing. (1:12:02 - 1:12:13) And that's unfortunate because that's the kind of thing we need. I think the only other leader that we have globally, who's on kind of the same page, is Javier Milei in Argentina. Argentina. (1:12:14 - 1:12:22) Yes, it's Argentina. And he's doing great. He's already followed Trump in exiting the WHO, which is another thing that governments around the world need to do. (1:12:24 - 1:12:45) So fortunately, there are a couple of examples out there. And it's great that America is one of them because America has always been at the center of the world stage and people pay attention to what happens in America. And when they see over the coming years, the U.S. prospering by getting rid of all this woke garbage and these false narratives and following their own path and America first, and it should be. (1:12:45 - 1:13:03) Amen. And as a Canadian, I want to make a statement to our American viewers, Donald Trump is absolutely right to impose those tariffs. Our government here has done a horrible job of controlling our borders and there are terrorists and bad elements coming into the U.S. from Canada because we let them in. (1:13:03 - 1:13:18) We have been extremely bad neighbors and the mature thing for our government to do would be to admit that and say, you're absolutely right. We're going to fix it, which is what's happening here in Alberta. This is why our premier, Danielle Smith, is the only premier who went down to meet with Donald Trump. (1:13:19 - 1:13:38) And it's the reason why, even if he imposes those tariffs a month from now, he's not going to impose them on oil and gas coming from Alberta because Danielle Smith has gone out and said, we're spending $30 million to tighten our borders. So if there's bad elements coming into the U.S. from Canada, they're not coming from our province. And that's fantastic and that's how it should be. (1:13:39 - 1:13:50) And I think you termed it really great with you haven't been good neighbors. And we haven't been healthy ourselves. Under Biden, our country was just a disaster and they were inviting in and importing. (1:13:50 - 1:14:03) We're paying our own government money that we don't have to import people from around the world who could really contribute nothing and only take. It's terrible. But to your point, is America first? Yes, and Canada should be for Canada first. (1:14:04 - 1:14:17) Every country out there and their leadership should be looking out for their self-interest. And that's part of capitalism and people don't understand. And we've been sold through our crazy socialist education system that somehow it's bad to look out for your self-interest. (1:14:17 - 1:14:28) If it's free self-interest, we can reach an agreement together. And if it benefits both parties, we'll do it. If it doesn't benefit one or the other party, they'll say, no, I don't want to do it because I don't get a benefit out of it. (1:14:28 - 1:14:36) That's how this should work. You should also be honest with people. It shouldn't be lied to about it or things that are hidden or all that stuff. (1:14:37 - 1:14:47) You know, if we can reach an agreement that works for both of us, fantastic. That is how it should be, in my opinion. America first for Americans, Canada first for Canadians. (1:14:47 - 1:14:53) Amen. Good to that. Yes, and what we're discussing here is nationalism, which is the opposite of globalism. (1:14:54 - 1:15:05) And the globalism is a problem because that's a centralization of power. And anytime you get a centralization of power, things are going to go downhill for the regular people. We need that return to nationalism around the world. (1:15:06 - 1:15:11) I would love to see the EU disassembled. The United Nations has to go. NATO has to go. (1:15:11 - 1:15:21) That's nothing but a contract to start a war at this point. It's, yeah, we have to have this return to nationalism. America first for Americans, Canada first for Canadians. (1:15:21 - 1:15:35) And then as you say, if it's mutually beneficial, hey, of course we'll do it. Exactly, exactly. So folks, to those younger people, the future is so bright that we have to wear shades. (1:15:35 - 1:15:58) Truly it is, provided that we turn back all the things that we were talking about and continue on a bright path of freedom, of enlightened capitalism, where we protect the weak from the strong. We protect the environment from bad actors and the ignorant or others reasonably well and reasonable. We have a very bright future, folks. (1:15:58 - 1:16:16) Things should be better for our kids and grandkids. That's what we should be striving for, is progress. And also that's the other part is, you know, as a Christian, and it was harped on me as I was growing up, is find out what your God-given gifts are, put them to use, bettering things for yourself, your family and everyone around you. (1:16:17 - 1:16:24) Contribute. And that's something, a message to bring back to those young people who are shrugging and giving up and becoming depressed. And I'm not going to have kids. (1:16:24 - 1:16:37) I'm not going to try because the world is going to go terrible. You need to convince them that they need to tap their inner gifts, put them to use for their benefit and the benefit of everyone else. — Frank, that was so well said. (1:16:37 - 1:16:58) I would love to leave it there, but you triggered one last comment that I think would be a great benefit to all of our viewers. I'm going to use the term here liberal and conservative, but I mean those with small l, small c. So you who are in America, you can translate that to Republicans and Democrats. I'm going to explain the basic difference between them and why liberal governments don't work. (1:16:58 - 1:17:10) It's this simple. A liberal believes that the society is responsible for the individual. And a conservative believes the individual is responsible for society. (1:17:10 - 1:17:29) And that's the only way it can work is if all of us accept our responsibility to society and we work together to make it better for everyone. If all you've got is a bunch of leftist woke people who are going, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, well, who is going to contribute? It doesn't work. Socialism doesn't work. (1:17:30 - 1:17:37) — And they have to keep taking more and more and more from those who are contributing. And at some point, they just say, it's not worth it. I'm not putting in my extra effort. (1:17:38 - 1:17:51) I don't want to do this. And that's the underlying fact. And you've said it very, very well, is either the government's controlling everything or the individual is working within the government that serves the people. (1:17:52 - 1:18:05) And we need to get back to having our governments work for us rather than controlling us and bossing us around. — Yes. So, Frank, thank you once again so much for your book, for your time, for these two interviews, and for your excellent insights. (1:18:06 - 1:18:11) And I wish you the best of luck with your medical challenges. I hope that all turns out well for you. — Hey, thank you very much. (1:18:11 - 1:18:20) And folks, thanks for tuning in and watching this. Please have those tough conversations. Be gentle with the people that you know and care about and your neighbors. (1:18:20 - 1:18:35) Once you become awake to this information, you need to help awaken others because it truly is important. And I do know that sometimes it can be uncomfortable. But I urge you to get educated. (1:18:35 - 1:18:39) My book's a great source. This is a great couple podcasts. I really appreciate that. (1:18:40 - 1:19:04) And go out and talk to people whenever you can. Social media platforms promote content based upon how many likes, shares, and follows they get. Please help us to spread the truth and take just a few moments to hit those like and follow buttons and then share this video to your own account. (1:19:04 - 1:19:12) Truth is becoming ever harder to come by. 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