SPEAKERS Will Dove, Dr. Reimer Fuellmich Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  00:07 We are all grateful for the efforts of ethical lawyers who are standing up for our rights and freedoms in the courts. John Carpay, Leighton Gray, Michael Alexander and Rocco Galati are just a few of the names you may be familiar with here in Canada. But lawyers around the world are fighting the globalists and their depopulation and control agenda. One of the most prominent of these is Dr. Reiner Fuellmich from Germany. Reiner has a history of taking on large corrupt corporations and at least in some cases, winning. Will Dove  00:40 He is also currently working with Kip Warner of the CSASPP in British Columbia, assisting with their case against the BC government. In 2020, Dr.  Fuellmich whose doctorate is in law, co founded the European Coronavirus Investigative Committee (CIC). Most recently, Reiner and the Committee conducted the Coronavirus Grand Jury for what has been called by other people Nuremberg 2.0, although Reiner makes it clear that he does not use that label. The Grand Jury was an effort very similar to our National Citizens Inquiry here in Canada, and featured testimony from many high profile experts. However, like many prominent freedom leaders, Reiner has also been the target of efforts to discredit him.  Some of you may be aware that last fall, a video surfaced online, in which one of the cofounders of the Coronavirus Investigative Committee accused him of misappropriating funds. Reiner joins me today to provide his response to those accusations to discuss his legal efforts and the efforts of the CIC to recover and defend our rights and provides a very clear picture of how he believes we will ultimately win back our rights, and hold the tyrants accountable in courts of law around the world. Reimer, it's a pleasure to have you on the show.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  02:04 Well, I'm really glad I'm here. I heard a lot about you. It's a pleasure and it's an honor.   Will Dove  02:09 Thank you so much. Now the person who put us in contact was Kip Warner. And folks we're going to get later on, to what's going on in Europe because despite Reiner's complete lack of accent, he is German and is very involved in what's happening in Europe. But I want to start here, closer to home with talking about your representation of Kip Warner and CSASPP and their case against the British Columbia government.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  02:32 I shouldn't say working together because he has his own lawyer there Polina, She's a great woman. But we've been collaborating on this case for quite a while. And the focus of that case of that class action case is the PCR and that's very close to my heart. Because early on when we first started doing our Corona investigation in Germany that is, I think we started on July 10, of 2020. And a couple of months into our listening to all kinds of witnesses from all walks of science, we had interviewed a number of people who kind of specialized - biologists and others, including Dr. Mike Yadon now a really good friend, good man, one of the best people I've ever met, when they told me that the PCR test no matter how you apply, it cannot tell you anything about infection, that's when I decided this is it, I'm going to have to do a bigger video presentation up until then I had while we were still staying at or living at our ranch in California.  I've done a couple of small video clips, you know, five minutes, six minutes and always dealt with the question: how can it be that the mainstream media and our politicians are only telling us one side of the story? There's always two sides of the story. And then our German version of Fauci came on public television. His name is Lortab Vela, he's a veterinarian, and all of a sudden, he says, You must wear masks, you must socially distance yourselves and you must never question anything I tell you. I thought what is going on, is Hitler back. And that's when I decided I'm going to have to do something, my wife persuaded me to go back to Germany with her and we started the Corona Investigative Committee.  We started interviewing people because we wanted to get answer three basic questions. How dangerous is the virus, really? Is there a novel Corona virus out there? We know there isn't one. How reliable is the PCR test? Not at all, it can't tell you anything about infections. It's not a diagnostic tool. And the third question is how much damage do the anti Corona? Well, they're deadly as we now know. But the PCR test is what would really blew my mind when I learned that that's when I realized this: there's no mistakes that are being made. This is intent. And if this goes any further, people are going to die. And that's what exactly what happened. And that's also what Kip's case is focusing on, the PCR, because if there's no if there are no cases because the PCR test was misused, and over nine - way far more than 90% of the cases are false positives, and we have a serious serious problem.   Will Dove  05:04 So a foundational argument of the case that you're working on is to show to the court that the PCR tests are completely unreliable, that they have a 97% somewhat false positive rate and that if the court accepts that, then they must accept that 97% of the cases weren't actually cases, and therefore there was no pandemic, and therefore, none of these measures were justifiable.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  05:25 Exactly. Because the only the only thing that any of the measures are based on is the PC artists that case the so called cases, what they really are trying to tell us is, these are all infectious. Now we in the meantime, we know this is a blatant lie. And it's so obvious that I couldn't understand why people didn't see through it because there's two basically this is two lies that this all started out. We know now that this has been - this pandemic has been planned for probably 10 years, 20 years, maybe longer. I think the first event was when they had a kind of a dress rehearsal was Operation Dark Winter or something then came that was shortly before 9/11. Then came lockstep that's another one of those Rockefeller things.  And then Event 201, lockstep was in 2010. and Event 201 which was really a dress rehearsal, dry run for this. So we know they've been planning this for a long time. But when they wanted to roll this whole thing out at the beginning of 2020, because I believe they were under a lot of pressure because more and more of us were beginning to realize that the other side Catherine Austin Fitz calls them "Mr. Global" had been looting and plundering our public coffers, more of us were beginning to realize something is wrong.  They needed to distract us and from a paper that was, I believe, written by Blackrock federal banks annual meetings in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, we know that they were beginning to panic. They said, Oh, my God, they're onto us. They're beginning to understand that we've been stealing to Catherine Austin Fitz says in towards the end of the 1980s, 21 trillion - not billion - trillion dollars were taken from the public coffers, probably given to the DOD, we don't know but they're on to us. We need to take drastic measures. And that's what they did. They started to roll out this agenda and didn't have any case, it didn't have any cases, even the cases which we thought were cases. You know, the pictures of people who were keeling over and were dead before they hit the ground in Wuhan who is probably the authority on microwave radiation and 5G His name is Barry Trower, former intelligence officer of MI-5 MI-6 in Great Britain. And he says that was probably their first use of 5G killing people because they were literally dead before they hit the ground.  No case, everything seemed to be under control. So they needed to create cases in order to roll out their agenda. It was never about people having to wear masks and making themselves look as though they were wearing coffee filters and making fools of themselves. It was never about social distancing. That was the that was just what they needed in order to make things visible so that people would say, oh, yeah, they're wearing masks. So there must be something dangerous. No, it was always about getting people to walk into the showers. As I said yesterday, to Vera Sharav, a former Holocaust survivor. It was always about the shot. And if you want them to take the shot, you need to instill fear. If you need fear, panic, you need to make people afraid. And how do you make them afraid? By creating a virus that doesn't exist and by making people believe that there's a virus out there that is serious and causes all kinds of infection when they didn't have these infections, these cases, they turned to a German professor by the name of Professor Dr. Drosten, of Charité University in Berlin, who's a total crook. He's neither real doctor nor real professor. But he's been around awhile, and he and they asked him, you got to help us give us an eye. I'm not just imagining this.  This is what we got from the testimony of two former employees, advisors to the WHO, one is Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger from Switzerland. And the other is Sylvia bear and Dr. Sylvia Baron from US. So they turned to this guy. And he once again, just as he had done 10 years prior to this during the so called swine flu, which then turned out to be a mild flu, and he came up with two lies. One: people can be infectious, even if they don't have any symptoms, that's asymptomatic infections. That's a blatant lie. I couldn't believe that people actually fell for this because if you're, if you don't have any symptoms, you're healthy. That's how it used to be. And that's how it still is in reality. And the other thing is, he came up with his version of PCR tests, which in itself is a brilliant scientific tool invented by a famous, witty, funny, intelligent man by the name of Kary Mullis, who got a Nobel Prize for it too. But Kary Mullis has always said this cannot be used for diagnostic purpose cannot tell you anything about infections. It cannot tell you if someone is sick.. It's not designed for that. And that's what it used to say and probably still does say on the inserts.  So despite this and full well, knowing we know this, we can show it, we can prove it in a court of law Drosten said, I have invented this PCR test, which will tell you exactly who is infectious. We know in the meantime that a PCR test can never no matter how you apply it, spare you the details, but you can't it cannot be used for diagnostic purposes. To make things even worse, misused it and there are many, many things that he did wrong intentionally. But the one thing that stands out is the cycles of amplification. Because what this really does is it's a copying format, or I always say it's a magnifying process, whether you take from the nose, or the throat is being put in. And in order to make that what you can't see what the naked eye can't see, visible, you have to go through these cycles of amplifications 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x, 32x, etc. Everyone seems to agree now that at 24 cycles of amplification, regardless of the fact that it cannot be used for diagnostic purposes. But at 24 cycles of amplification, it becomes totally useless, totally unscientific. You see everything and nothing, it makes no sense anymore. Mike Yeadon told me that at 35 cycles of amplification, and Professor Capelle, from the Netherlands, Professor Cameron from Bloomsburg University in Germany, a Delores Cahill, professor from Ireland, they all look at 35 cycles of amplification, you end up with at least 94% false positive test and accordingly, because that was supposed to be the gold standard for the detection of infections. That's why they use this guy who did and then recommended it to the entire world, his test set at 45 cycles.   Will Dove  11:43 And I'm glad that you brought that up the 35 cycles, because according to our research, the government's - the provincial governments in Canada don't like to disclose this, but from what we were able to determine many provinces were in fact using 35 cycles. But I want to back up to something you were talking about earlier, because you made reference to your belief that they had to rush this whole agenda out because people were catching on. And because you yourself are very knowledgeable about their whole agenda. I myself, of course, have given a great deal of thought to it. I want to run a theory past you before we get into talking about what's going on in Europe specifically.  My theory is this: when they created the virus through the the gain of function research that was really just all that was for was an excuse to inject people with these mRNA shot but the mRNA shots, and I'm getting into this point of being rushed, that they weren't ready, and I think they weren't ready. And they did not want these shots to have all the lethality and adverse reactions that they had to the degree that they have. And let me explain why. If we look at their depopulation agenda, I think what they were trying to do was to do what Bill Gates has been doing in Africa for decades: injecting sterility without a whole lot of side effects so that people wouldn't notice. Now, if I'm correct about that, that there's way more death and adverse reaction than they were wanting to have because they were rushed. They didn't have time to finish the race to produce something that wold sterilize people.  And why am I harping on the sterilization? Because in Europe and Canada in the US everywhere, they're pushing the shots on young children six months old, despite the fact that they themselves will tell you that children are at almost no risk from that Coronavirus. Why are they pushing it so on kids, because I believe that it was really intended to be a sterilization programs so that they could greatly reduce the global population. So if I am correct, and this is what I want your thoughts on, then that means that they have made a major error with this. These mRNA shots that are killing 10s of millions of people, maiming many more, causing drastic drops in fertility rates around the world. And they're scrambling hide this. And I've spoken with a number of experts in things like the various database where they're removing data and doing just about everything they can to convince people that this is not happening, but they can't hide it forever.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  13:48 I think that's plausible. We still don't know what's in the vial. We do know there is there's different contents, we know that some contain mRNA some and there's always these nano particles in there. I do think that their major objective is probably sterilization because it's not visible immediately. Even though now in Europe. One of the worst hit countries is Germany, or the city of Basel in Switzerland. There is 43% fewer children born since the start since the rollout of the vaccination so it's even - that is visible. I think they don't really know what they're doing. They're experimenting and they've lost control. That's why they chose this virus because it's there and if you design a test that only looks for the corona virus, it is guaranteed that it will find that one of the corona viruses is usually contained in most of the flus or most of the serious colds. It's always there. So if you design a test that looks only for the Coronavirus, it's bound to find but the thing is doesn't - didn't anybody notice how the flu disappeared when the corona virus all of a sudden appeared. That's because it was probably I'm not a scientist, but I rely on Mike Yeadon's and other people's expertise. That's because it was probably just a flu, which they kind of pimped and using all their panic mongering in the media and through the politicians made it look as though it was really, really dangerous. That's what caused the panic. That's what drove people into the hospitals in New York for example. People who normally would have stayed at home, waited for 3, 4, 5, 6 days and then gone back to work.  Now they go to the hospitals where they catch nosocomial infection where they are mistreated medical malpractice, the Fauci protocol, one of the doctors to administer remdesivir - which deadly - put people on a respirator which is also potentially deadly. That's what caused the spike in excess mortality. But it was only spike there was no excess mortality before the start of the vaccination campaign. Now, as far as your theory is concerned, again, I think it's really plausible, but the name of the game is really fear.  It's all about fear because when you mentioned gain of function experiments, the other day I did an interview with Dr. Mike Yeadon and Meredith Miller, who is a psychologist who refuse the call to psychology brilliant and Professor Joseph Monetarist. He's a professor emeritus of philosophy. And Mike said they have full control over the mainstream media. And the purpose can only be in our view, I agree with that they wanted to make people believe that this is a very dangerous virus because if leaked from a lab, if it comes from a lab where they make viruses more dangerous than they are, it must be that's not the Bible. They may have changed it a little but it was certainly never a potentially or a very lethal virus because if it were it wouldn't spread, it would die with its host the more serious disease the more deadly the disease, there's little risk that it's going to spread.  I think your theory is very plausible makes a lot of sense. Their vaccination campaign has gotten out of hand, they didn't expect that much damage to happen. I don't know. You may have seen the recent video clip by Dr. Roger Hogkinson where he talks about how based on the numbers on the reported numbers. And we know there's lots of there is a very plausible estimate which says that in the meantime, more than 20 million people worldwide have died of the shot. We know that literally no one died. Coronavirus, even though no post mortems were performed back then before the start of the vaccination campaign. There's this guy in Germany, a professor of pathology, who looked at who did perform autopsies on people who allegedly died off COVID. And the end result is they - all all of them, I think 100 and something people who he performed autoposies, they - all of them died of completely other causes. And all of them or most of them had lived way beyond their average life. So no one died of COVID.  But if you look at vaccines, again, there's another German pathologist. His name is Dr. Arne Burkhardt, who now collaborates with I don't know 50 or 70 other pathologists worldwide are pretty well known pathologist by the name of Dr. Ryan Cole from Idaho and he looked at 100 and something cases of people who died. His result is 90% of them died, but he could see the fingerprints of the vaccines from what Roger Hodgkinson says, and he's not someone to just shoot from the hip, at least 20 million people died after the shots. That is definitely not part of their agenda, I don't think. You're absolutely right, Will,   Will Dove  18:42 Now, I do want to get on to what you've been doing in Europe. And folks, I know I keep preaching this at you. But it's extremely important. We cannot be geocentric in our thinking. We can't just look at what's happening in Canada. This is a globalist attack. So if you see something happening in another country, and it's not happening here, well pretty soon, it will be so we need to be aware of what's going on in the rest of the world. So Reiner, I want to start with Nuremberg 2.0, which folks is somewhat akin to our own National Citizens Inquiry here in Canada. If you start talking about that,   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  19:07 Yes, a lot of people have been asking for something like Nuremberg, like a Nuremberg trial to be conducted and something like that will happen. I never used that term. I just mentioned Nuremberg, the Nuremberg trials in a longer video which I did in September of 2020. Right after I had learned that the PCR test had been misused in order to create cases and that's when I refer to Nuremberg to the Nuremberg trials because what we're seeing here is crimes against humanity. It seems to be so obvious that it doesn't even warrant any discussion anymore. And then I explained where this term crimes against humanity comes from. And it comes from the number of trials. The number of trials were conducted in 1946 and 47. If I remember correctly, one that got the most attention is probably the one which dealt with the main war criminals most of the war criminals, however, had escaped to South America or through Operation Paperclip had been shipped to the United States. That's how they started their space program was vanaf von Braun is his name. And that's how mind control was adopted by the CIA.  It was Germans who did it because they had been imported through Operation Paperclip. I mean, there's this one person, his name is Hemant Goulding. He was on trial, most of the others got away. And the one thing that's really interesting about his trial is how was it possible to turn an entire country of educated people of engineers, poets, etc, into mass murder? The explanation he gave is, doesn't have anything to do with capitalist or communist or socialist system, the only thing you need is fear. That's what we're really talking about. That's why I said, even the gain of function experiment were just used in order to make people afraid of a virus -   Will Dove  20:58 - back, prior to the World War, that Hitler started the fear mongering surrounding Jews, by labeling them as disease backed -   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  21:05 - But the more important trials were the trials of the medical doctors because that is what should concern us. Now, as a result of these doctor's trials two things, one, do not conduct any medical experiments on anyone, unless there is no other way as no treatment available. That's when you may may be able to justify a medical experiment, but not without the patient knowing about too and this is more important. No medical intervention shall be done on anyone performed by a doctor on a patient unless the patient consents. And his consent is only valid. If he's fully informed about the pros and the cons that's called Informed Consent up to this day, they don't know it, and the European Union is head who's a totally corrupt idiot who failed at everything else that she's ever done before, she actually wanted to get rid of the idea of informed consent. But without the patient consenting to the medical treatment, what the doctor does is bad, it's a crime, it's bad only if the patient consent. So basically, not a single one of the so called injections were anything other than battery, because there's no informed consent given and not only   Will Dove  22:21 that, but when the pharmaceutical companies ship these things out to the doctors, there's a brochure that's supposed to be included a great big thing that folds out, and I can't know the proper name for it, I'm sure you do. In most places, they were blank, there's nothing in them. You've got two crimes here, you've got first of all, the pharmaceutical companies not informing the doctors of what they're injecting people with. And then the doctors not turning around and telling their patients, I have no idea what's in there.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  22:43 Even if there had been a full explanation of what this is about all the pros and cons, the side effects if everything had been in there in this form, and the patient had signed it, it's not valid, it is not enough, the doctor needs to talk to the patient. Because some patients need more details. It all depends on the person who needs to be an oral discussion between the doctor and the patient. So none of this is valid. It's all battery and it's probably all manslaughter.   Will Dove  23:15 Now before we get back to more discussion about legal cases in Europe and what you're involved, unfortunately, do kind of so few European people on my show, and I know from the Europeans that I do know, personally that places there in Europe where things are much, much worse than they were here in Canada, Austria, for example - very bad, Germany - bad. Would you please give my viewers sort of an overview of what happened in Europe, you know, in terms of the worst human rights abuses and what's the state of it right now.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  23:43 Okay, I will start with my view of the European - Europe is not the European Union not all European countries are members of but this is why I believe that the EU is simply a creation of let's say the deep state most people believe that this strange person by the name of Klaus Schwab invented the World Economic Forum. That is true, but he didn't do it all by himself. He was by his father who was a an advisor to Hitler and tried to help him create the atomic bomb - failed, of course - he was sent to Harvard University because his father wanted him to go that's where he was introduced to Henry Kissinger, who in turn introduced him to CIA funded program which had changed or which had decided to change American foreign policy with respect to Europe.  Up until then, it had all been about nuclear deterrence, direct influence on what happens in European politics, that's how Klaus Schwab invented the World Economic Forum in 1971. And after about 20 years, they also came up with great creation of the Young Global Leaders Program, which is their own politician production facility, which means that when we in Europe thought that this may be a good politician or that may be a good politician, those politicians that we voted into office were creations of this Young Global Leaders Program. Same, unfortunately is true in Canada because as you know, Justin Trudeau is one of the products and, and this is not even kept secret. Klaus Schwab runs around and openly boasts that he or the W E F with a Young Global Leaders Program has infiltrated half - the person who runs the European Union, her name is Ursula von der Leyen. She is as corrupt as you can be. And she's also a creature of the Young Global Leaders problem.  So I believe this is a creation of the deep state, it has nothing to do with Europe, most Europeans hate it. They don't want to be part of the European Union. They don't want to pay money into this. Early 2020, this was their microcosm, and this was their playing field to see whether or not what they intended to do gaining full control over the people giving them orders that people will follow versus their playing field so that they would be able to tell, yeah, this is the better way or maybe this is not a good idea. This is how it started. That's why the measures in many of the European countries were extremely strict. We have - you may have seen pictures of police officers, we don't we're not sure if they're real police officers or thugs who were wearing police officers uniform beating up on people in Germany, in Berlin, in order to make sure in order to enforce these measures, which made no sense whatsoever, I did a couple of trials representing criminal trials, which is not really my area of expertise on a tort lawyer, I go for damages, we need to take down these Corporations. But I did a couple of these criminal trials which were so ridiculous.  I represented a client 25 year old woman who was charged with the crime of sitting too close to her friend on a pier in Hamburg, the port of Hamburg outside we won that case, but totally stupid - totally. Then we found out that the PCR test had a problem and we made this we made this knowledge available to everyone. We - when we conducted Corona Investigative Committee sessions kept getting called by people from all over the world all of a sudden, including lawyers. And then in Europe, the first decision came out from an appellate court in Portugal and it explicitly said, Nope, the PCR test is not designed and not even authorized to tell us anything about infections. You cannot base any measures this case involved for German tourists who came into Portugal for their vacation and one of them tested positive. They won this case and we thought, oh man, this is it. This is the breakthrough! We had not taken into account that they had - the other side had infiltrated the system for the past 30 years. At that point, I didn't even know what the World Economic Forum was about. I didn't know and I had never heard of the Young Global Leaders Program.  Next case came down from Vienna and Austria again, the judges found that the PCR test cannot tell us anything about infections, and therefore it cannot be used in order to prohibit a rally, which is what they did. The third case came down in early 2021, from a German court in the city of Wildomar. And this is a special case, I'll tell you a little bit more about it in order to make clear to you how serious the situation really was - still is in German Europe. The fourth case that said PCR tests can't tell you anything about infections came from Turkey, which is not part of Europe. But the third case is the most interesting one. A judge from the city of Wildomar, he was approached by a woman, a mother of seven and a nine year old boy this woman said through a lawyer said to him, you have to do something because my children are being tortured at school. They have to get PCR tests every other day. They have to social distance themselves from their friends, they have to wear masks, this is like torture, they can't sleep at night they don't want to go back to school, stomach aches, headaches is horrific. And the judge said, Well, it sounds plausible that there's something wrong but I need experts. He called upon three experts based on their testimony in particular on the fact that the PCR tests can't tell you anything about infections.  He told the school stop that there is no factual basis or if there's no factual basis, then there's no legal basis and people celebrated all over the world. Three weeks later, his house, his car, and his office, his cell phone, his computer were seized. The same thing happened to the lawyer, a woman who represented the interests of the children. Same thing happened to a good friend of the judges was also a good friend of mine. She's a comedian - simply because she was a friend. Now this was not designed. The judge has lost his job and is on trial for a crime. This was meant to send message to the entire German and that's why even though there are still some judges who are willing to uphold the law, they can't come up right they will when the time comes and the time will but this is how bad it was in the Netherlands where as you have probably seen the farmers are losing their land. And because the government wants to get them used to getting their food from. This has been in in France, which we don't see on the mainstream media, but people are now so enraged. And this is the country where revolutions have happened quite a few times before. People are so enraged,   Will Dove  30:18 I have to ask this picture that you've painted, it's going to make it very difficult for people to have hope. And it's something I've been saying from the beginning of this is that this ends when enough people simply stand up and refuse to comply. As much as I am very grateful for the efforts of lawyers such as yourself, I don't think you're going to really win substantial cases in the courts until public opinion shift. And the judges see that the public opinion is against what the government's are doing. But here's my question, because here in Canada, for example, I live in Calgary, a city of about a million people. And I think the biggest rally we've had had maybe 20,000 people. Now I know that, for example, through my friend, Dr. Maria Hobermog, who I think, you know, in Vienna, for example, you had rallies where a quarter million people were showing up, and yet it changed nothing, really. And it changed nothing. And I think because of the point that you were making earlier about the EU being a construct of the globalist that they have this iron control. And so as somebody who is deeply involved in all of it as a lawyer having expertise in basically, yeah, you've got past expertise in banking, you've got expertise in pharmaceutical ethics. How do we rescue Europe from this?   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  31:20 It is not the courts of law that will do this, at least not in Europe, we need a judiciary where we really get a fair and independent judiciary I have or the group of international, we've conducted this grand jury model grand jury investigation with a group of international attorneys in order to show the people, give them the whole picture, not just the 450 interviews that I did but all these little pieces of the puzzle, but we wanted them to see the whole picture, the eugenics backdrop, then how they use the WHO in order to create fear and people through the World Economic Forum's Young Global Leaders program had basically taken over all of our public institutions and agencies and politicians. So no hope when it comes to us believing that any of the politicians will save our asses, no way, we have to do that ourselves. And we will, because we're already enough to turn the tide, the system is totally rigged. But once an American judge, an American court looks at the evidence which the Germans refuse to look at. And then the whole truth comes out. And both of these companies had to apologize in public for their fraud, and they paid billions of dollars for their crime. Once that happens, it is impossible for the German courts of law continue to ignore this.  So that's what it's all about. We need an independent judiciary, where the whole story can be told we're going to interview the witnesses that we interviewed on this map model grand jury proceeding in order to in this time, it's going to be the real thing. Back then it was a real thing, too, because it was real judges, the real, it was real lawyers, real experts and real witnesses who suffered damages because of the shot. But we could have been accused of a Canberra trial had We not made it clear that this is just a model next time the real thing will come in it will be on the platform of one of the indigenous people and this time, the judgment will be enforced. But that is coming after the fact. First, we have to stop there. And in order to stop this we the people have to get up and tell them this is it cross too many red line now we're going to turn the tide. And we're going to come after you because you need to be cross - you need to be put on trial. The people decide that.   Will Dove  33:30 You made reference to an independent judiciary and that you refer to a US court. Do you think there'd be any point in approaching the International Criminal Court?   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  33:38 No, I don't think I don't think so. I think 25% of the judges in The Hague, they're courtesy of Bill Gates and George Soros. The same is true for the European Court, European Supreme Court, it needs to be done on truly independent platform. And I can only think of one platform. I can't give you the name right now. We spoke about it before we went on air so to speak. But once that is cut and dried, we're going to make it public. That doesn't mean that all of the systems' courts are a - can't be relied upon. No, no, that's not true. Most of the systems' courts, almost all of them in Europe are totally corrupt.   Will Dove  34:14 If I'm to summarize your thoughts, what we've got right now is a situation where there's a lot of people who are waking up to understand what's going on, it may not be the majority yet, but it's still a lot of people and those people want to see justice, they want to see this and they're going to say a lot of them just gonna say no, I'm not going to go along with whatever you bring along, we're just going to make it even harder for them to enforce next time around because they're going to be a much larger group of people. Say, whatever kind of tyranny they try to ban or just gonna say we're not doing and then in that environment, we get some kind of major case probably in the US that is ruled against the pharmaceutical industry is ruled against the doctors who are pushing the shots into people, and that gets international attention, which brings more people on board with those who refuse to comply and eventually reach a critical mass where there's just so many people who understand what's happening, but refusing to go along with it that now we start seeing a domino effect in the courts around the world.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  35:02 That is exactly the scenario that we envision too, we hope that it's going to happen sooner than later. I think we're moving very quickly now in the right direction, but the other side knows that as well. And what we're seeing now, for example, either today or yesterday, there was this report, even in the mainstream media that in Switzerland, they are stopping the so called vaccinations and they're a because of the the situation seems to have gotten a lot better from now on any doctor who administers one of the shots will be held liable. It sounds like a winner later, they wouldn't be able to hide themselves their evil deeds anymore.  Part of the winning strategy, tragically is the body I think this has gotten out of hand, as you suggested, and that's why they're forced to move faster and faster and faster. But they knew this was going to happen. So this is part of their agenda. It is also I think, part of what is oh, there is as far as program from 2017. It includes precisely this development that politicians will apologize will be thrown under the bus, vaccinations will have to be stopped et cetera, et cetera. I think this is also called Limited Hangout, when the other side comes under so much pressure that they can't keep the lid on everything they're doing.  They're giving you a little bit and are beginning to apologize and are beginning to understand, oh, maybe we have made mistake. No, this is all that the Limited hangout is designed to keep you from understanding that there's a far bigger elephant in the room, that there's a far bigger crisis. And this far bigger crisis is, of course, that there's many other tools in the other side's toolbox. Global warming is the whole climate, just the same. Ukraine war is not what we think it is. I mean, our side of the fence knows what's going on. And many other things like food shortages, energy shortages, but what they're really trying to do is they're by admitting to part of what went wrong. They're trying to keep us - to distract our attention so that we will not look in the right direction. Be aware, be watchful, they're still going forward with their agenda of introducing a one world government by making us believe that our national leaders who are their leaders, are incapable of dealing with crises. So we need a one world government they're all going to be thrown under the bus including Justin Trudeau and the other thing of this control idiocy is of course introduce one world digital currency, we must keep our eyes open.   Will Dove  37:36 One of the things that they do is anybody who gains some attention and especially gives people hope they go after those people, and they try to discredit them. Now, some of my viewers will know who you are, and some of them will be aware of the video that came out several months ago from your co founder of the Coronavirus Investigative Committee, accusing you of financial crime. I want to give you your opportunity to address I think   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  37:58 This was part of a concerted effort to go after some of the faces in the so called because almost at the very same time, it looks as though this is friendly fire but friendly fire is unintended. This was intense. So almost at the same time that my former co host decided to accuse me of crimes or financial irregularities. I think this is how she phrased it. They went after the resistance itself, went after the founder of the alternative to the World Health Organization, which is called World Council for Health. Her name is Dr. Tess Lawrie. They went after probably the most famous American psychiatrist, Dr. Peter Breggin. They filed a complaint against him for damages in the amount of $26 million. They went after the founder of America's Drontline Doctors, Dr. Simone Gold, it looked as though this is not a coincidence. In my case. I don't - I haven't looked into the details of the other cases. But I tell you that I met Tess Lawrie in person at a conference in Portugal and she's not a criminal. She definitely means what she's saying, she's an honest person. I think she's a good doctor.   Will Dove  38:03 In fact, just about everybody you put on your list of people I have spoken to and I do not get the sense from any of them. But they're anything other than the honest, hard working people they appear to be.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  39:17 This is how they work. This is how the other side work by infiltrating political parties or organizations such as ours, the Corona Investigative Committee probably trying to do the same things and it's basically always the same thing. I just read up on, the inside they try to make it impossible for the people who work in a political party to get anything done. And I know from firsthand experience how that works because I was one of the co-leaders of a new political party in Germany that was anti Corona, anti the corona measure and I knew exactly what happened. And the other thing is on the outside, you frame the so that they lose their credibility. You spread all kinds of lies, just like Vivian did with me, just like they did with uh, probably Peter on some convinced with Peter Breggin.   Will Dove  40:02 Let me summarize. First of all, you had a discussion with Vivian back in August last year subsequent to that lie in July in August. Subsequent to that she had a meeting to which she said wasn't going to happen, but did happen, the purpose of having that meeting without you being there. And then after that, she releases this video accusing you of all these things. And my understanding is she never discussed any of these accusations with you prior to releasing that video.   Dr. Reiner Fuellmich  40:27 No, she did discuss this with me and I kept telling her what's wrong with you. We had several meetings with - here's this one guy, he's a professor of law, a good friend of mine who tried to mediate this but it didn't work. She did discuss these things. My entire firm was overwhelmed plus hundreds of phone calls because nobody answered the phone there. Plus all kinds of regular pieces of mail packages, people sent us books and stuff. We had to deal with that and I had to pay other lawyers from outside my firm, to do my work to go to court and to write briefs.   Will Dove  41:01 Reiner, thank you so much for clarifying all of that and for taking the time to speak with me today. And with our Canadian audience, I wish you all the best in your ongoing endeavors.