(0:00 - 1:52) Dr. Miriam Grossman has been a child psychiatrist for decades. She is a senior fellow at Do No Harm Medicine and a psychiatric consultant for the American College of Pediatricians. Dr. Grossman has testified before Congress on trans issues, appeared in the documentary What is a Woman?, and is the author of five books, including her 2023 book Lost in Trans Nation, A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness. As I read Dr. Grossman's book, I realized that after the many interviews I have done on the trans agenda, I had finally found someone who could explain in plain English how our society, and most of all our kids, have been brainwashed with the ridiculous notion that a person can choose their gender. Dr. Grossman reveals the real statistics that paint a grim picture of the societal delusion that especially targets our children, while debunking the completely unsupported claims of the trans movement. Along the way, she gives a clear and compassionate picture inside the heads of the parents who consent to allow their children to be mutilated, but most importantly, a look inside the heads of the kids themselves. By understanding how our children are being brainwashed, you will be far better equipped to protect them and guide them safely through the trans minefield. Dr. Grossman, welcome to the show. It's great to be here, Will. Thanks for having me. And thank you so much for taking the time for this interview and for the excellent book, well, books, actually, that you've written. But today we're focusing on Lost in Trans Nation. (1:53 - 2:21) And you have an excellent perspective on this, far more so, perhaps, than anybody else I have interviewed, except possibly, maybe, Jon Uhler, because you are a practicing psychiatrist, have been, I believe, for something like 45 years. Is that correct? Well, I've been in medicine for about that long. Well, not going to split hairs, but I've been a child psychiatrist for decades. (2:22 - 4:20) And I've been seeing, in particular, kids who are confused about their sex, as well as their parents, for about five years. That's exclusively what I've been doing for five years. Yes. And I've got some questions about that later. But I want to start by establishing a groundwork, because I know from some of the other people who I've interviewed on this topic, that a lot of this has really snowballed since roughly 2013. You may have a little bit more information on that than I do. So you've been practicing for a lot longer than that. So I wanted to ask you, prior to, and I'm not going to put a year on it, never mind the 2013 statement, prior to all of this socially snowballing and becoming this major issue in our society, how many kids did you see with what is now called gender dysphoria, and what was the treatment for them? Well, I saw zero kids, which is to be expected, because until recently, it was such a rare condition, you know, one in tens of thousands of kids, many tens of thousands of kids, extremely rare. So I never saw anybody. I certainly was exposed to the fact that this diagnosis, this condition does exist. I was exposed to that in my training to become a psychiatrist, because it was in the DSM, the manual, the diagnostic manual of mental illnesses. But I never expected, I mean, none of us, the people that I, you know, was training with, we didn't expect to actually see any cases in our entire lifetime, because it was so incredibly rare. (4:20 - 5:44) And just to give you another indication of how rare it was, well, 20 years ago, let's say in 2005, there were only three clinics that existed where parents could bring their gender dysphoric child, at that time, it was called gender identity disorder, in order to get some help and advice with those kids. Now, when I say three clinics, I mean three clinics in the entire world. Okay, one in Holland, one in London, and one there in Canada, in Toronto. So there were just three clinics in the entire world, and those clinics didn't have many patients. So yes, it was extremely, extraordinarily rare to have a child, and especially a teenager. In other words, childhood onset of gender dysphoria was more common, even though it was extremely uncommon, but still, it was more common than adolescent onset of gender dysphoria. (5:45 - 6:51) And what we have now, in the past 10 to 15 years ago, is a wave, a tsunami, you know, of kids who are developing gender dysphoria as teenagers. Yes, and I've got some statistics here from your book to put that in perspective for the viewers. 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That incongruence, so to speak, is a normal variation in human development. These ideas come, as I explain in the book, they evolved over decades in radical circles, feminism, and other places, academia, that latched onto this idea that there's a thing called gender, which is in your mind, and it is separate from sex, which is, as they would say, between the legs, and that when gender and sex do not match, then gender overrides sex. This is what the theory was. It's interesting that you should bring up the year 2013, as you did a moment ago, because 2013 was the year that psychiatry revised the DSM manual, and they got rid of the diagnosis gender identity disorder, and they replaced it with the diagnosis gender dysphoria. (11:03 - 12:13) And that may seem like a minor revision in nomenclature, but it actually was much, much more than that. Because in doing that, in making that change, which by the way, was not based on any new information or research or consensus among psychiatrists and psychologists, rather, it was based on a small group of people that were pressured politically and motivated by, you could call it compassion, for these very, very rare individuals, and wanting to remove the stigma of the condition being called a disorder. So, previous to DSM-5, which came about in 2013, in previous editions, we had the diagnosis gender identity disorder. (12:14 - 16:47) And the committee that was charged with making decisions about what to do with that diagnosis in the new edition, the DSM-5, they were not happy with that word disorder. And as I explain in the book, they went through a process of looking at their you know, possibilities of what they could do. They did a survey of organizations who, international organizations, involved with the welfare and well-being of transgender individuals. And of those 43 organizations that were included in the survey, there were only five that were medical organizations. So, it was a vast majority of organizations that were, you could say, you know, based upon helping those rare individuals who had the diagnosis of gender identity disorder, and they very, very much wanted to remove the designation of disorder. And in fact, almost 50% of the organizations that were surveyed wanted to remove the diagnosis altogether from the DSM, so that this would no longer be considered a psychiatric diagnosis with a number and a code and so on, because that also carried stigma. And the reason why the diagnosis remains in the DSM is essentially because there's a need for a code with which to you know, be reimbursed from insurance for treatment. Okay, so these people need various, not every single one, but many of them do go for mental health treatment, as well as medical and surgical interventions. So, without a DSM diagnosis with a code, they would be unable to bill and be covered for all those expenses. So, that was also one of the big motivations for keeping the diagnosis in the DSM. But it just goes to show us how radical these groups were. They wanted, in the same way that homosexuality, and I don't want to get into that, but was removed from the DSM in 1973. So, in the same way, these groups lobbied for the removal of this diagnosis from the DSM, which would mean, if they had been successful, that they were saying that individuals who are so detached and dissociated from their biology, from their bodies, that they actually want to have healthy organs removed, that that does not constitute a psychiatric disorder. Right. Now, I'm glad you brought all of that up, Miriam, because I wanted to also bring in a few more points. Once again, I'm going back and referencing my interview some time ago with Jon Uhler of Unmasking the Trans Movement. The most significant thing that Mr. Uhler showed me was the chart of diagnoses of gender identity disorder, which then became gender dysphoria. And if I'm recalling the chart correctly, and I think I am, prior to about 2005, it was virtually non-existent. And then it starts to creep up a little bit until you get to 2013, when the DSM-5 new manual is released. Now it's got a new name, now it's got a code, and now doctors can start billing insurance companies for it, and it skyrockets. So the question I have is, how much of this whole agenda is just profit?