(0:00 - 44:12) Hi everybody, I am Madison Holmes and I am Maycee Holmes and you're watching Holmes Squared. Yeah, it's been a while since we've done this intro not for you guys, but for us because the last three episodes you guys have listened to which is Who? Claire no, no Chloe Chloe Wow. I'm sorry Chloe Chloe I'm sorry Morgan and Jason. Yeah, those were the last three episodes. We pre-recorded them that way we could take a family vacation Family road trip. Mm-hmm. The first one since in like nine nine years. Yeah Last time I was 12 Yeah, we went to Mexico in nine years. Yeah, and I'm and yeah, so We went to the United States we went through Wyoming and Montana Wyoming to Colorado. Mm-hmm and We're we learned a lot of things along the way we're Making this the episode for today not just as like an update to be honest about okay where we're at but also because We we did learn quite a few things and the nature of Vacations, especially as we're a very politically involved family, even even though there are people that are even more politically Career orientated than us. We're constantly listening to geopolitics But that doesn't happen to the same extent when you're you know on vacation because you're trying to kind of unplug Mm-hmm. The whole mode of attention is stepping back from your normal routine. That way you can Reassess where you are. Mm-hmm I guess Another way of putting is that the walkabout, you know Our dad talks about some of the old ancient tribes and then the the senior would walk about around the camp Just to see where everything's at and then they would make their assessment before coming back and sharing their wisdom so this Whole episode is going to be us kind of reflecting on some of the things that Stood out to us via lessons learned things we had to do for our own mentality and things to walk away with because it's important to stay I Guess we can start by why we went to Colorado in the first place out of everywhere in the United States Colorado so he went for a space weather conference. Actually, I should pull up Yeah, we went to go see Ben Davidson give a con Yeah, like a presentation on the disaster cycle. He has a YouTube channel called space weather news Maddie's pulling it up for you guys right now. It's it's I was gonna say it's gonna have an intro video And Basically, he's been kind of being a bit of a whistleblower on some event that is going to be happening in the near future that he thinks is definitely gonna be happening and it's this idea of a Pole shift which we're in right now when our poles Move positions and then on top of that what we may see is a It's funny when you say your own name, Maycee It's funny. We what we may see is a Sun supernova which will Essentially kind of kick off what he claims as the disaster cycle event so we went to go check that out because we a just wanted to make sure we could vet the people and himself with our own eyes We will probably be doing an interview with him for you this audience for him to get Give you guys a bit of a sneak peek of what we got to go and witness Which was him teaching us basically like disaster cycle for dummies, which actually funny enough he's written a book on Maddie I don't know if it's not in this room I don't know if you could Google it and try and find it's for the audience to Take a look. I was reading it on our way up for the trip which was actually kind of funny because I finished reading it and Then we went to go watch the presentation and he basically repeated everything that I read in the book and I was like, oh Well, I guess I didn't need to read it So it's either for those who are like, okay I'd like to read it read his work. Not just the one for dummies, but just overall his his works Maddie's gonna pull them up right now. So you guys can take a look Yeah, so there's weatherman's guide to the Sun second edition. There's I think that might be which editions at first edition second edition. I think this is big I think he's come out with a third one Yeah, we have it I don't know what it's it's I don't know if it's called third edition or not Right, but yeah, so his name is Ben Davidson And so we went there again to go vet the people to get more information because dad's been following Ben Davidson for a while and then we started listening to Some of his works because he does daily updates on the Sun. That's that's what he Started doing was just doing reports on what the Sun is physically doing and then he started finding like coincidences after coincidences and then he kind of was just like Hang on a minute paying attention to past cycles and paying attention now Things are not. Oh, hey right there Mad. Yeah right there. Things are not lining up. Something's changing and so he kept on finding a lot of Like I said coincidences that kind of led to him coming to this conclusion that hey we actually might have something unprecedented that we've never seen before and I think the thing with because like that these kinds of like in the idea of getting caught in apocalyptic thinking or getting Worried about end of the world doomsday type of stuff It's important in the sense where I don't think anyone should ignore the fact That you should probably know how to start a fire, right? like you should probably be teaching your kids and be teaching yourself how to Survive the basics as basic as you could as you as you can because I know that obviously life is really really busy It's crazy. Oh there you found it the earth disaster cycle 2023 Yeah, so just hold on. So the The one that's in the middle right there, but yeah, she's pointing to that's a for dummies one And if you go down below These two are kind of like the textbooks quote-unquote So you guys can go check that out But yeah so I think that when we learned like when we went there and we learned when we learned it was kind of Edifying in the sense where so far the science seems sound so again, we'll probably have him on to Get your guys's brains thinking about it, too Because then I know for certain that I'm not the most scientifically inclined So I know that hopefully you guys if you have questions, you can go and either Tag us to go and tag him or you can literally just straight-up ask him yourself by going to his YouTube channel because he has Q&A's all the time for people that have questions But yeah, so when we went there the science so far seems sound and we wanted to Encourage ourselves to make sure that's like, oh we need to we should know things like we should know how to survive Basics, right? I don't like the idea of being a doomsday cultist, right? But I do like the idea of like hey, how do you know how to be self-sufficient? right, and then how do you know how to Work well with your group, which would be like your family or like whether by blood or your community It's like how do you work well with others? How do you vet people right because there are we know there's people that like to do Basically nothing and get something out of it, right? That would be what we call like left hemispheric people that just don't want to lift up a finger to help, right? Those are the types of people that way if it came down to any type of survival Let alone just even it still happens today in basic society and taking being taken advantage of right? So just knowing these things and then basic skills that that was really I think Something that just seemed really clutch and it's always kind of been in our zeitgeist yeah, ever since the family kind of Was it straight out of kovat I think so because once we started Mm-hmm Yeah, it was it was the kovat thing because you know, everybody went freaking crazy and you know filing buying toilet paper Yeah, and once once we kind of knew that oh like John O'Looney that was even saying that prisons were getting built right right in the UK or also now Even that idea like circling around in Alberta It was kind of one of those things were oh like at any moment you never know when the guys with guns aka your police force the UN the UN or just Like literally if at home external whatever that something could happen, right? It could seem definitely paranoid because that's kind of like that's kind of actually just an accompanying thing that sometimes happens with conspiracy theorists But no, that's an honest like that's an honest curve that people we can acknowledge in this because you know we've been involved in these freedom groups and conservative Political groups for a long time and you kind of we've met both people You know the ones that are they're just trying they recognise that the government has actively maliciously done harmful policies and they're trying to harm and threaten their citizenry and so they're aware of that but That's kind of like the academic knowledge. That's as far as it goes We then we've also met the full-on preppers where it's again The doomsday is coming or they think the boots on the ground. They're gonna come to your home and We're a family that You guys know by now we think about everything every possibility We don't everything. No, of course not But we try to consider as much as we possibly can and anytime something comes across our zeitgeist or the Overton window We really do look at it before moving on And so even the threat of this this earth doing this pole shift, even though the science now really does look pretty convincing It's not a it's not a panic You know put everything on hold to do this thing because that's not how life works It doesn't become the new centre of attention because you still have to function it wouldn't be useful to Fixate on this one thing and so that's been whether it's prepping like we do believe that Prepping and looking into survival skills. All of that is very very important Which is why we went down in the first place because that's this is a real possibility of something going wrong Just like we thought at the time, you know, those those camps that were being built in the prisons We were like, well that people could very well come to the door or the grid could very well Go go down and the financial system could go down and then all of the videos we've watched say well, then you only have like What is it 30 hours before the cities are completely Everybody panics and then starts looting. So we've done a lot of looking into that and So that was part of the reason we were like, okay, we need to consider Physically, what do we need to have in order? What books should we have on our shelves? What skills? How strong do we need to be in order to survive that sort of thing? And when we get Ben Hill he'll probably explain more the ergonomics of like what would help you to survive something like that because like there are good things to Notice, which is like he talks about location and he talks about you want high elevation based on tsunamis and just again He'll go more into like the really nitty-gritty details of what could potentially happen and what the world could look like post event but Like so locations a factor and like where you are, but that was also that's also like It's it's it's like two things right you want somewhere that culturally is elevating That's why we're still here to try and figure out how we can elevate, Alberta because like with Canada and Alberta definitely going to the US there was something that like definitely I'll talk I'll speak to that after but like you want someone that's good and culturally but you also want somewhere that's good when you're talking about things like disasters and and such like that, right and so that's why Maddie her book her comment on the books comes in right because it's like Oh like you want to make sure you have books that teach you how to forage that teach you also though you want books like The Bible or like Socrates is dialogues like this is that's also stuff that you want with you So that way you're not just dependent on. Oh, well, they're figuring it out over there I'm just gonna move over there and then hopefully I absorb it It's like no you yourself have to also be it's like you yourself will still have to also bring it and so Now I'll talk about about like the feeling I got when we went to the US It was funny because we went to the US and there was a garage sale and it was like guns and ammo and I was like I love it here Yeah, gross. They'll just selling guns I'm not gonna lie like I literally have me and dad were like I feel safer in the US than I do coming back home to Canada and I Was like, it's really sad to say it mine is a border crossing. Yeah. Well, yeah, that was like weird technicalities, but not because we're terrorists but me Like we came back to Canada and I was just like wow like even the Alberta next panel That's been going on with Danielle Smith. It's been chat like even actually there's a new bill coming out I think it's called bill c8 I could be wrong on the C part, but I know that it's that there's an eight in there And it's one where they're gonna be seizing people's internet that they just choose like selective persons They're just gonna like shut down your freaking Internet and so I was just like like what the actual shit like we are just in such a huge censorship Age and I'm not gonna lie like I don't want to sound black pill, but there are moments where I'm like wow like we keep Fighting and they just still keep implementing their technocracy their surveillance state and I'm just like man this sucks You know and I that's where actually it ties into the beginning where it's like that community thing And I think that the thing that was cool that I found really cool was at observer ranch, which is where we went and stayed It's like their own campground To go and witness the presentation is that You see signs up that say like learning sourdough day like right or learning like self-defence day Yeah, or just and I think that's cool because it's like them actually like just coming together learning some skills And I don't know why but I feel like if you have a skill out there or you're or so I have two things if you have a skill share with other people and Encourage people in your community to come and join you to learn this thing and be if you don't go and either join those people Or you know, you still have YouTube University as sad as it is And you can actually learn things you can actually take hey if I don't know how to do a specific thing It's like there's still lots of good people and good channels out there where it's like just Focus on trying to learn something like a skill that's relatively useful. Yeah, so This is the Alberta Next Panel that Maycee alluded to so all of these are it's on Danielle Smith's thing because they're alive and They they were touring across Alberta and it's to talk about things like okay. What about you know, a equalisation and immigration immigration a Alberta police for some of the things that you know, the Alberta prosperity project has a Constitution the Constitution. What are some changes we could do? And so they've been touring across Alberta and we've list we listened to a couple of them We listened to the South Calgary Town Hall. So if you guys see it there, yeah, highly recommend It was actually their final closing one. Yeah, and besides the online one. Yeah, and then I listened to the Granberry. Mmm. I might have done Airdrie I think I did Airdrie because I wanted to know what they what their consensus was Because again, we're still trying to keep a pulse on everything going on in Alberta and that community the thing that Maycee's talking about really stood out just because all of the people that are trying to problem-solve and Asked the right questions. They're really trying to think things through it reminded me and this is what Maycee said she said the thing she really liked about the Alberta Next Panel was all of the people coming up and problem-solving like the Calgary we had a motion a bylaw that was going through and it was for blanket rezoning in our in the city of Calgary and We had it was the largest Turnout in Calgary's history of people coming to share their opinions. Yeah. Well, it wasn't a plebiscite It should have been a plebiscite What a plebiscite is when we vote on it like the people actually get to vote This was just a like a public hearing this was like a public hearing exactly That's what that was. So they got to hear us out and it went for a seven plus days That's the longest at Calgary's history. And I think Majority, I think 72% of the Calgarians were not in favour of it and our municipal council just completely ignored us but what Maycee has said on previous episodes and in our politics at home with homes on our sub stack is that She listened to all of them I listened to some of them and all of the people the contractors the real estate agents the fathers the All of them had so many solutions they were people really trying to solve the problems and these Alberta next panels had a very similar thing because all these people Have different skills. They have different expertise and the moral that we were kind of This whole trip this family vacation is When you go on vacation the point is to step back and In the master and his emissary he calls it necessary distance It's it's the walkabout you do so you can reflect on what just happened so you can re assess where you are on the map and We got so that was the intention of going on this vacation and not everything went according to plan But you we did get to step back and we did get to reconsider Because being as politically involved and right now there's municipal elections going on So me and Maycee are we're door-knocking and handing out flyers. Yes So we're trying to do our part and signs but when you're and we have the AGM coming out There's just so many things that are going on and trying to stay up to date Listen to the Alberta Next Panel's trying to do these podcasts for every yeah Eventually, I want to get into promoting a PP more because I just think that even the US agreeing to potentially recognise Alberta as a country should we actually if we vote all in 26 if we vote yes in 2026 That's huge. That is huge. So because there's all of this going on Sometimes like we are in the middle of frickin history, yes It feels like it and sometimes you get drowned out in all of the sea because the world is a sea and there's so much more water than there is land and so one thing that trips like these and stepping back Reminds you of is the again the what my dad always says our dad metal meets the meat, you know What's what's the reality down to it? And that's why I said earlier in this episode even though you we consider things like Disaster cycles that can very well occur People and men with guns that could actually show up on your door if the grid goes down or the financial system Having the physical assets and all this jazz. Those are important paranoid Scary scenarios that can actually occur, but you don't marry it because at the end of the day, what are you gonna do? What are you physically going to do day to day because even though we do all of this great big 30,000 foot view in the air thinking you have to get up out of bed in the morning and what do you do when you get up out of bed and vacations like those remind you of The little skills and the little things that you can continue doing just to keep in touch with reality and get those skills Speaking of you know books and skills Maycee was reading Ben Franklin On because we actually had time to sit down and read since we were driving for 17 plus hours So she did Ben Franklin. She also did the Sun Disaster cycle for dummies and I did I got to finish a book on menopause from To menopause. What is it called? It says female hormones in context by Raymond Pete and then it says PhD Yeah, we should have a podcast all about health at some point Yeah, Maddie's this book like what Maddie was teaching us as to after she finished reading it I was like well and health and we look into the people who wrote it So I looked into this like Raymond Pete guy and I was like, oh shit Like he knows Russian medicine like he knows Chinese medicine He knows probably Western cuz I'm I would yes believe he would yeah, cuz I looked up his university said he went to as well So I was just like man, this guy knows like so much and he seems really really cool. Yeah. Yes and so another thing that we read or Yeah, me and Maycee both read and I say so we picked up a book from Megha Lillywhite. I'm gonna I love her name I know. I mean I Megha Lillywhite. It's not just her name. I mean guys look like Look at that gorgeous gorgeous. Yeah, she's yeah, she's a very intelligent Woman she's a thinker she continually reads And again not idealising because there's also like some things that we don't yes re on but for sure I respect her Yeah, so at the very least she's writing all the time. She's thinking she's like putting out books now I just think and she's raising her child like yes Basically a stay-at-home mom while trying to do all of this. I just think that's wicked. Yes, so I Definitely check out herself set Classical Ideals. Yes I don't know if her book is on here. I Do she is on? Instagram as well and on Twitter apparently so you could probably find her there Yeah, I'm she just came out with a book the reason I brought her Yeah We her book came out Girl Everlasting. Yeah girl. Oh, okay. That's her so sick again she came out with a book called Girl Everlasting and It You could probably like search it up Yeah, it's on so honour. So she combined some of her sub stack essays that she physically writes yeah, and this sub stack essay that she combined into this book is What should young people do? I don't know. I'm not quoting verbatim. That's just what I believe the title was I think young women what should one? Yeah Yes young women do but it kind of it kind of merged into the question of what should young men and women do because as I read it, we've been talking about skills a lot and As I read it and as I was reading been sorry Ben Franklin I found a fun little Cohen's Like oh there it is. So for Maddie screen share that There you go guys. So it's Girl Everlasting: On Romance, Love and Virtue, Megha Lillywhite. So it's on Amazon so I was reading it and something that she mentioned that just really resonated was the fact that well, she actually said you should probably prioritise skills at a young age why because When you're a young woman per se right you want to kind of figure out how do you balance the whole idea of having a career to take care of your children or being a mom a stay-at-home mom If you want to be a mother all of these things and I'm gonna lean towards myself Which was like which would be I would I would like to be a mother one day and at the same time I'd like To be able to be financially like frugal and prosperous. Of course, the man will Like play his role. Obviously, I hope I'd be picking a bad partner if I didn't figure out how they were gonna be helpful in that process. Um, but she was talking about the fact that Usually learning a skill just you never know when it's gonna open opportunities for you Yeah, it's basically like she said you're 20 should be spent kind of sowing the seeds that your future self is gonna need for how It's gonna basically succeed in the future. So when you're 30, you're gonna be like, oh my god Like thank God I learned how to sew right or thank God. I learned how to cook like right, but thank God I learned how to do XYZ right just something that's maybe Marketing right? Thank God. I learned that or thank God. I learned how to edit videos, right? It's just you never know when a skill is gonna help carry your success for the future, right? because when you're a mom, then you're really focused for a short for a period of time with your child and actually just trying to raise it and it takes it's it Takes a while, right? Yeah, but then I was cool cuz in Ben Franklin's book. He was mentioning that He had a Friend that was wanting to start up his own business and so and even in Megha's book she recommends She was just like make like starting a business is good because now you're your own boss, right? You're not really subs like some Servient to who gets to dictate the rules and doesn't always get to be that way, right? But if you can aim to make it yours make it yours, right? but it was cool cuz Ben Franklin was talking about the fact that this guy he had his own business and he was starting it up and his wife was kind of helping take care of the Accounting and stuff in the administration and then he I think passed away But the wife took over in the sense of like she knew how to account she was gonna keep going and then she had a young Fellow who was helping work the shop So that way he could do the manual labour and such, right? And then when her son got to the ripe age to run the shop Then she passed over her legacy down to him and it was just cool how even Ben Franklin was saying I Recommend that you know for at least the very least for those who are widowed to like Get yourself involved in what your partner's doing and try and Like tag team so that way later on it could be prosperous for your offspring, right? And I just thought it was cool cuz even mega was mentioning that where it's just like you it's it's very Helpful when you have a partnership I know a lot of the times like some that can be controversial where it's like you don't want to work with your husband Like that's insane But and I mean I like it I mean it depends on what they're doing because if he's making like dough doing something very important and it's kind of a bit More manual labour than you can even offer to help then of course everything's different But just having that ability to again know how to be a good partner not just as in the relationship But also in a business with you with because I think it was mega that said what better assistance than your wife like what better assistant than the person that you're gonna spend the rest of your life with right because they know all the ins and outs and they want to Figure out like how do I best help you succeed? Yeah, and ideally they we just Me and Maycee are got introduced to the Rockies for the first time. So we've watched the first three and They are amazing. Oh my gosh, I thought Women girls out there. You don't need to watch chick flicks because there's nothing more wholesome than rocky Yeah, I was gonna say like a lot of the times I think it goes back to I don't know if it was Jordan Peterson I think it was who said that like Things like Twilight stuff like that Female porn in the sense of like a woman feeling the need to like tame this beast right because it makes it's technically it's basically a woman's form of power is her seduction right not all the time right but When we don't have the ability to punch Our enemy in the face and have it land like a guy can take a fucking punch from a woman, right? Then ours would be well then how do we psychologically manipulate them, right? How do we gain leverage? How do we seduce? How do we but XYZ right? and but so the female porn aspect is when we succeed and it's like look at I tamed the beast and he's like Literally on his knees for me and but this was so wholesome I made me think of like a guy flicked slash chick flicked in one and I was like, this is just such a good Movie cuz it was just so wholesome on how rocky story kind of Like evolves the character and even his evolution with Adrian his wife. I'm just like man, like we don't make movies like this anymore yeah, he said, you know like cuz Somebody asked him like why are you why do you like Adrian of all people? He's like she's got gaps I have gaps we fill each other's gaps And that's what Maycee's with the Ben Franklin and Megha it's like you Being partners. Ideally, you can fill each other's gaps because Lord knows both of you will have So building those skills at a young age is kind and kind of generally because You take them for granted, you know Even even in the Rockies like he was 30 and so was she both of them were creeping up on 30 and so both of them felt like they were kind of washed up and they were past the golden years or they they didn't know what to do and It's just investing into yourself and those skills. You don't know where it comes along even even cooking like I think so many kids our age take cooking for granted and There's just so many different skills and even the science that goes into cooking because even things like sourdough The amount that I've learned Because since I started sourdough making just the fermentation process and then the health aspects I was like, oh my gosh, there's so much and it just incorporates even somebody like Maycee who? Might not consider herself Scientifically inclined even though she totally is things like even I've been called I'm the arts and crafts type type of chick and I'm music type I don't know math or science and yet now I can explain biology and chemistry via baking and via Ham radio and electronics and stuff like that, you know So just you stuff like that is the book that I was holding in the hormone book Yeah, it's just you don't know and I think that was kind of This whole this whole vacation trip Reading the books that we are and hopefully our goal is to finish mega Lily white her book and then we want to have her on because I think it would be a Fantastic conversation because we don't agree on everything but she does have but she's trying to figure it out She's so trying to figure and I'm like, I really I really respect totally that she's basically still continually learning Yeah, even as a mom as well. Yeah, and that's studying. I just think that's setting a good example Yeah, yeah, and so we want to share that with you guys just like Maycee was learning about Ben Franklin who did so much You might have stuff that guy got done in his life Like, I don't know. I feel like I could do a whole episode on this book. So it's it's Benjamin Franklin's Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin I got world's greatest literature version I'll show it to you it's like a cute brown cover and I love I love books that look like this because they look very antique II and I like that but also I love it because one of the Inside of it a girl named Audrey got it from her mother for Christmas in 1937 and so I just like I don't know I cried the first time I saw that because I was just like wow look at the History that I'm holding in my hands and I just didn't know what to do with it I was like, this is so overly well mainly amazing But like it's a great book like girl like greatest literature. It's really good like Benjamin Franklin Like even when I'm reading it I can still critique him on some things which is lovely I'm very glad that I that I have that ability to kind of just go like, oh I'm not just gonna get to in rapture, but at the same time like he he basically was like the kickstart to what became the University of Philadelphia and He looked at the world around him like especially Philadelphia itself and funny we were talking about the Rocky movies cuz like Rocky take it was such a place in Philadelphia and He also helped to create a hospital. He also helped to pave the streets he also came up with a new design on how to better light the streets and it's just such even tiny things like when dust would get on the road and Collect muck and how it would track into the stores and it's basically like understanding the feng shui of your city to basically Try and help elevate the minds of the people as well to like feeling the cleanliness in your own home helps a lot, right? Well, he thought about it as well on like literally looking at the streets, right? and then he would try and figure out different solutions and then it's just so much like he's done so so much and He like became basically like a governor and then he helped Well later on, of course, he'll you'll see that he helps draft The plan for independence for America so it's just it's it's a great read I haven't quite I think I'm like a couple chapters away from finishing but it's it's so good But yeah, yeah, cuz basically we're talking about the fact that yeah, you gotta know how to learn how to do shit, right? It's like he he was huge on Socrates and he was huge on reading and he was huge on Jesus and he was huge on Like learning all much all that he could write from books and then he even started this club called the Juneto and it was basically bringing together a bunch of young minds all these gentlemen to come and discuss things like Politics like religion like what's going on around them in terms of like local politics, right? but also the world around them philosophy, right all of these things and the roles of men and women and just All of that, right. I think he even bragged to creating the first fire company I'm gonna look into that but I think that I was like, I read it twice and I double-take I'm like, did you just like offhandedly say that? Um but he created that club the Juneto to try and Elevate the minds towards thinking about better ideas, which I think is the age of we're trying to live in But it's not just about that, right? It's also Not just about the academics But then how because the academics are important to get people to be considering what needs to be done But then he was the type of person to look around and go like but actually legit How do we systematically like what should be done on a system level to try and make this better and he was always looking for Why how to make things better and I just think that that is the kite type of thinking that we're trying to encourage How do you look around you and see where like someone knows something that you don't know? Well, you can get upset about it or you can be like, okay. Well, I'm gonna go learn I'm gonna figure it out. I want to do that and even if it's not like right away It's like in tiny little moments where you can grab it where you can take the time to do the thing Then then do the thing when you can Yeah, that's that's one thing that we're Definitely trying to get that's the perfect hemisphere balance in my mind because you know, you could have all the right ideas But if you don't physically do something, which is, you know, when the left and the right hemisphere come together, that's how you actually build Societies and infrastructures. You can't just have a nice idea. Yeah good philosophy discussion on it And so that's you know, it's even though we very much admire academics And reading old works like that There there is something to set about getting things done and physically and that's even we learned things like that going on a vacation, you know doing Going meeting a bunch of roadblocks and tribulations on a physical trip when you're just China You got this idea of how it goes and then of course, you know, how do you make God laugh make plans? so Yeah, that's that's kind of like the moral of the episode is that balance between Actually once you do the reading and the thinking and all of those potential bad things that could happen the good things Then doing something gaining those skills implementing them because It's Definitely not enough just to read about it and we've seen people on every side of the spectrum. We have good friends that'll They've claimed to have read, you know a work like Socrates or Plato and then you just watch But they don't know how to implement it. They don't know how it applies to their life not not to save their life So great. You've read Benjamin Franklin Yeah, it's like even us Saying what we're saying to encourage you in terms of doing these things reading these works But then trying to emanate them, right? It's like we will have to be held accountable to ourselves as well as if we can actually make sure we're doing that ourselves Which I believe we're trying we're trying I would say that it's like yeah when we go out and we try and help politically not just like Doing the interviews that we do but when we go out we hand out flyers when we hand out signs I feel like i'm actually physically doing a thing to try and help out and then even um things like the AGM It's like I feel like we're physically doing thing when we did our debate our youth debate physically doing a thing I was like look at now all of the spectators that get to see us actually having a battle of ideas um, I was gonna say Charlie Kirk style, but Um to play on that theme but but um And then even the idea of of the app and just all of the hard work that's going into that and the alberta next panel and all of the minds that like I was very impressed with Calgarians when I listened to the South Calgary Town Hall because I was just like wow Like look at all the people that are really trying to think this through and they're talking face-to-face right there with their government and of course there's some things that I would disagree with in terms of how um That Discussion went in terms of some like very little details, but on the overall whole i'm like man This is exactly what we need. We need to be challenging ideas We need to be coming up with solutions and then we need to actually get it done. So Yeah, yeah. No, that's I I got nothing more to say. That's That's it. Yeah So um I would say then as a last little remark. I was gonna I was gonna say that um, I was very proud of my of our brother because um they like to play games in terms of like video games and stuff and they're hard-working guys like And i'm saying guys because there's multiple men in our household that like to play video games, but also work hard but he he works hard, but he likes to play video games in his Spare time sometimes and sometimes like me and maddie get like info about video games you guys have heard it before where we're like, oh like Do something like we have been talking this whole 42 minutes on learning skills. I'm like do something that's not bad because that's not a skill Yeah, I don't care. I don't care who watched that stupid movie of the kid becoming a race car driver based off of playing like Yeah, unless you plan on doing that stigma but But I was proud of him because he was just like i'm gonna just go work on the blazer so he was doing car work and i'm just like Look at you doing a physical thing. I was like, that's good. I don't think he listens to our show So he's not gonna care. He did that but But yeah, so that's also something that i'm just like there you go That's the encouragement is what like and at the same time if you choose to go take a break Go into nature yellowstone's gorgeous guys. Like we went to yellowstone. It was lovely Take pictures enjoy it just bask in it. I don't know if you have a canvas painted. I don't know it was when you also decide to take a moment to step out like sometimes we either resort to scrolling or we Resort to things like video games or resort to all of these like dopamine hits, but really truly obviously It's obvious just go out in nature. It's so lovely. Yeah as as morgan would say Yeah, go on and walk get outside Yes Oh and freaking call people don't just text because it gives you the ability to walk away Take the time schedule calls with your friends and talk to people Okay morgan also told me Uh, yeah, see you guys we're making we're making friends with people smarter than us because that's what you're supposed to do Okay, well, thank you guys so much for watching, uh, and I guess this has been Holmes Squared.